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Old 29-12-2016, 13:37
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I've several friends in Australia and from what I can gather, the generation that love the queen and say "no one has ever done more for the country" are slowly disappearing. Then the younger generation mostly can't wait to get rid of the royal family. So it's almost seen is inevitable.

Could people in the UK ever start to turn against them? At the moment it seems like most young people are in support of them. They do seem to be fab value for only 50p a year. Most of the things they get critised for spending money on comes out of their own finances.
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Old 29-12-2016, 13:42
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals. If the president has actual political power, that'd require reform of a political system that people have being trying to reform for over 100 years, with little success.

And of course the question is also, who would be president? President Boris? President Blair? President Farage?!?
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Old 29-12-2016, 13:45
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I can't see us getting rid of the Royal Family here in my lifetime - it would be nice to think they would modernise though, and ditch the sick inducing deference we are meant to show them, by bowing and curtseying to them.

Am sure Oz will get rid of them sooner or later, they have little to offer it.
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Old 29-12-2016, 13:53
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There's something like 200 countries in the world and 43 of them have royal families. There's no reason why we might not ditch them in future if that is the public mood -- plenty of other countries have -- but I doubt that will be the case for decades yet. I think there would have to be very strong opposition to them to even get the opportunity. The closest I can remember us coming in recent times is in the early '90s.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:18
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I actually like this slimmed down monarchy
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:19
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:33
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
Can see the chaos now if there was..a referendum.....would make the what sort of brexit did people vote for debate seem trivial........

People would be divided on what sort of President we should have..
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:39
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It would be very difficult to remove the Monarchy from the UK because of various Acts and agreements over the centuries. The Magna Carta in 1215 and the Bill of Rights in 1689 were both designed to remove power from the Monarch in favour of Parliament.

I doubt that there'd ever be significant support in the UK to want to abolish the Monarchy not least because the alternative would probably be worse.

As we discovered in 1660.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:48
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Its a brexit scenario where there would be know way you could pass all the possible scenarios and details to the general public in something that wouldn't put everyone other than a few lawyers into a coma in 30 seconds.

Just imagine Joey Essex getting the job and he's at Buckingham palace an telling Vladimir Putin to "shut up".

How would the voting process work?
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:52
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I've several friends in Australia and from what I can gather, the generation that love the queen and say "no one has ever done more for the country" are slowly disappearing. Then the younger generation mostly can't wait to get rid of the royal family. So it's almost seen is inevitable.

Could people in the UK ever start to turn against them? At the moment it seems like most young people are in support of them. They do seem to be fab value for only 50p a year. Most of the things they get critised for spending money on comes out of their own finances.
The royal family are a bunch of parasites living off the backs of the British people. They may bring in a few tourists and act as a figure head, but oxygen thieves like Andrew have done nothing more than show contempt for people since leaving the forces. They may be using their "own" money, but they stole that from other people over centuries and are no more worthy as people than anyone else.

I would say cut the spending, nationalise their assets and make them get proper jobs they can support themselves with, or live on the same benefits as everyone else. Let the QE2 and probable successors (Charles, William, George) keep their titles and have a few ceremonial duties, but all the rest should live normal lives.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:52
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The way things are I would like the monarchy to have more of a say in political matters. Perhaps given a veto in some policy areas.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:58
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals.
On the contrary, getting rid of the Royal Family would make it easier to get rid of the aristocratic class and the country would be less enthralled to the class system.

We wouldalso get rid of our terrible national anthem.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:00
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It would be very difficult to remove the Monarchy from the UK because of various Acts and agreements over the centuries. The Magna Carta in 1215 and the Bill of Rights in 1689 were both designed to remove power from the Monarch in favour of Parliament.

I doubt that there'd ever be significant support in the UK to want to abolish the Monarchy not least because the alternative would probably be worse.

As we discovered in 1660.
Good grief. How do all these countries without monarchies cope?
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:01
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
If the question was to get rid of the royal family and to take all their unearnt assets to create a sovereign wealth fund to benefit the public then I think people would very much care

France is the most visites country by tourists in the world. I think we would get more tourists if these houses were open for longer periods.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:03
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The way things are I would like the monarchy to have more of a say in political matters. Perhaps given a veto in some policy areas.
Why should they have more of a say in politics than you? Do you think they are somehow superior to you and therefore their views are more important than yours?
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:03
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On the contrary, getting rid of the Royal Family would make it easier to get rid of the aristocratic class and the country would be less enthralled to the class system.

We wouldalso get rid of our terrible national anthem.
Maybe it would be a good time to also get rid of the house of lords?

The uk is one of the most unequal countries in europe, I've heard several sudys say.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:06
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Its a brexit scenario where there would be know way you could pass all the possible scenarios and details to the general public in something that wouldn't put everyone other than a few lawyers into a coma in 30 seconds.

Just imagine Joey Essex getting the job and he's at Buckingham palace an telling Vladimir Putin to "shut up".

How would the voting process work?
People would vote to either keep or abolish the monarchy. Simple.

And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state!
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:07
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Don't really see the point here other than for ideological reasons.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:08
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals. If the president has actual political power, that'd require reform of a political system that people have being trying to reform for over 100 years, with little success.

And of course the question is also, who would be president? President Boris? President Blair? President Farage?!?
The most popular candidate would become president. So unlikely to be any of the above.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:09
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Don't really see the point here other than for ideological reasons.
The ideology of having a head of state who is democratically elected? I can easily see the point there.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:14
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People would vote to either keep or abolish the monarchy. Simple.

And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state!
If you can with enough effort get BoatyMcBoatface as a listed name for a ship then i'd imagine if in theory the only criteria for the job is to be a British citizen then whoever is most popular at the time would get on to the short list.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:16
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People would vote to either keep or abolish the monarchy. Simple.

And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state!
The USA in a few weeks?
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:16
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As with so many things in the UK I'm left with a choice of least worst. I don't suport the royal family in any kind of flag waving way but I'd rather that than someone from the UKs political scene who could only be more divisive without bringing in any wealth or good will from elsewhere, which the royal family at least contribute to.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:18
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It's time to get rid of the monarchy, nobody believes that they are appointed by God any more, as in the 17th century.

It's an antiquated system perpetuated by sycophants.
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:19
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The USA in a few weeks?
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