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When Australia removes the royal family could the uk follow suit? |
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6 | 4.72% |
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50 | 39.37% |
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15 | 11.81% |
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When Australia removes the royal family could the uk follow suit?
I've several friends in Australia and from what I can gather, the generation that love the queen and say "no one has ever done more for the country" are slowly disappearing. Then the younger generation mostly can't wait to get rid of the royal family. So it's almost seen is inevitable.
Could people in the UK ever start to turn against them? At the moment it seems like most young people are in support of them. They do seem to be fab value for only 50p a year. Most of the things they get critised for spending money on comes out of their own finances. |
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals. If the president has actual political power, that'd require reform of a political system that people have being trying to reform for over 100 years, with little success.
And of course the question is also, who would be president? President Boris? President Blair? President Farage?!? |
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I can't see us getting rid of the Royal Family here in my lifetime - it would be nice to think they would modernise though, and ditch the sick inducing deference we are meant to show them, by bowing and curtseying to them.
Am sure Oz will get rid of them sooner or later, they have little to offer it. |
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There's something like 200 countries in the world and 43 of them have royal families. There's no reason why we might not ditch them in future if that is the public mood -- plenty of other countries have -- but I doubt that will be the case for decades yet. I think there would have to be very strong opposition to them to even get the opportunity. The closest I can remember us coming in recent times is in the early '90s.
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I actually like this slimmed down monarchy
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
People would be divided on what sort of President we should have.. |
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It would be very difficult to remove the Monarchy from the UK because of various Acts and agreements over the centuries. The Magna Carta in 1215 and the Bill of Rights in 1689 were both designed to remove power from the Monarch in favour of Parliament.
I doubt that there'd ever be significant support in the UK to want to abolish the Monarchy not least because the alternative would probably be worse. As we discovered in 1660. |
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Its a brexit scenario where there would be know way you could pass all the possible scenarios and details to the general public in something that wouldn't put everyone other than a few lawyers into a coma in 30 seconds.
Just imagine Joey Essex getting the job and he's at Buckingham palace an telling Vladimir Putin to "shut up". How would the voting process work? |
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I've several friends in Australia and from what I can gather, the generation that love the queen and say "no one has ever done more for the country" are slowly disappearing. Then the younger generation mostly can't wait to get rid of the royal family. So it's almost seen is inevitable.
Could people in the UK ever start to turn against them? At the moment it seems like most young people are in support of them. They do seem to be fab value for only 50p a year. Most of the things they get critised for spending money on comes out of their own finances. I would say cut the spending, nationalise their assets and make them get proper jobs they can support themselves with, or live on the same benefits as everyone else. Let the QE2 and probable successors (Charles, William, George) keep their titles and have a few ceremonial duties, but all the rest should live normal lives. |
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The way things are I would like the monarchy to have more of a say in political matters. Perhaps given a veto in some policy areas.
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals.
We wouldalso get rid of our terrible national anthem. |
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It would be very difficult to remove the Monarchy from the UK because of various Acts and agreements over the centuries. The Magna Carta in 1215 and the Bill of Rights in 1689 were both designed to remove power from the Monarch in favour of Parliament.
I doubt that there'd ever be significant support in the UK to want to abolish the Monarchy not least because the alternative would probably be worse. As we discovered in 1660. |
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Here's a thought if this question was put to the people tomorrow in a referendum how many people would actually vote..... I get the feeling that a lot if not most people actually have an opinion either way on the subject.
France is the most visites country by tourists in the world. I think we would get more tourists if these houses were open for longer periods. |
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The way things are I would like the monarchy to have more of a say in political matters. Perhaps given a veto in some policy areas.
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On the contrary, getting rid of the Royal Family would make it easier to get rid of the aristocratic class and the country would be less enthralled to the class system.
We wouldalso get rid of our terrible national anthem. The uk is one of the most unequal countries in europe, I've heard several sudys say. |
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Its a brexit scenario where there would be know way you could pass all the possible scenarios and details to the general public in something that wouldn't put everyone other than a few lawyers into a coma in 30 seconds.
Just imagine Joey Essex getting the job and he's at Buckingham palace an telling Vladimir Putin to "shut up". How would the voting process work? And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state! |
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Don't really see the point here other than for ideological reasons.
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Who would replace them with? If the president is a figure head, there's little point getting rid of the royals. If the president has actual political power, that'd require reform of a political system that people have being trying to reform for over 100 years, with little success.
And of course the question is also, who would be president? President Boris? President Blair? President Farage?!? |
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Don't really see the point here other than for ideological reasons.
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People would vote to either keep or abolish the monarchy. Simple.
And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state! |
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People would vote to either keep or abolish the monarchy. Simple.
And I don't think other republics have Joey Essex types as their head of state! |
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As with so many things in the UK I'm left with a choice of least worst. I don't suport the royal family in any kind of flag waving way but I'd rather that than someone from the UKs political scene who could only be more divisive without bringing in any wealth or good will from elsewhere, which the royal family at least contribute to.
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It's time to get rid of the monarchy, nobody believes that they are appointed by God any more, as in the 17th century.
It's an antiquated system perpetuated by sycophants. |
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