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When Australia removes the royal family could the uk follow suit? |
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You often find that those with an irrational hatred of the Royal Family have underlying personality disorders which manifest themselves in many similar ways i.e. hatred of successful and popular people, they are conspiracy theorists and exhibit paranoid behaviour about the 'state' and banks etc. Far from looking into themselves for solutions to their difficulties they find it easier to blame others for their failings and problems.
![]() I suspect that you just completely made that up yourself, in fact, I have no doubt whatsoever that you did. |
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You often find that those with an irrational hatred of the Royal Family have underlying personality disorders which manifest themselves in many similar ways i.e. hatred of successful and popular people, they are conspiracy theorists and exhibit paranoid behaviour about the 'state' and banks etc. Far from looking into themselves for solutions to their difficulties they find it easier to blame others for their failings and problems.
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...but there are some irrational people and you can tell them a mile off as they tend to be the ones who want them lined up against a wall and shot...
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Or accuse them of having personality disorders, being conspiracy theorists, paranoid and failures. The irony is hilarious.
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To get back to the subject of the thread, what about those who don't "irrationally hate" the Royal Family but merely want them removed from their position?
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Such people are rarely able to give sound reasons for 'removing' the Royal Family without explaining why they feel that way. 'Removing' the Royal Family would be an extreme act which can only be driven by very strong feelings such as 'hatred' which makes it irrational. Feelings of hatred are normally driven by deep seated disturbance (well concealed in day-to-day matters) in the personality and you often find the same individuals have similarly extreme opinions on matters of nationality and politics for example.
As a Royalist I can see why - one only has to look to the USA, which despite the Founding Fathers efforts, they will be led by Donald Trump, a man who by his own admission is totally unsuited to the position and has no experience of diplomacy, Not only that but in our constitutional monarchy such as ours the duties of a monarch were defined by Walter Bagehot when he wrote. "To state the matter shortly, the sovereign has, under a constitutional monarchy such as ours, three rights — the right to be consulted, the right to encourage, the right to warn" An elected head of state, with a democratic mandate would not have their powers restricted in this way, not only that our current queen having been in that position for over 60 years has a lot of experience on which to base any consultation, encouragement or warnings. Assuming that any democratic president had a fixed term - it will never reach the level Queen Elizabeth II has achieved - even her successors will have grown up with the Queen and gained much of it by the time it comes to them. |
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Not really - many people cannot see why a modern liberal democracy has a hereditary head of state.
As a Royalist I can see why - one only has to look to the USA, which despite the Founding Fathers efforts, they will be led by Donald Trump, a man who by his own admission is totally unsuited to the position and has no experience of diplomacy, Not only that but in our constitutional monarchy such as ours the duties of a monarch were defined by Walter Bagehot when he wrote. "To state the matter shortly, the sovereign has, under a constitutional monarchy such as ours, three rights — the right to be consulted, the right to encourage, the right to warn" An elected head of state, with a democratic mandate would not have their powers restricted in this way |
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I've always found it odd that people living abroad accept a foreign queen. As far as I'm concerned, Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of England.
She's English, she lives in England, her family are English and most of her funding comes from England. |
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I've always found it odd that people living abroad accept a foreign queen. As far as I'm concerned, Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of England.
She's English, she lives in England, her family are English and most of her funding comes from England. |
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It would depend if a 'President of Britain' has executive powers or not as despite all the pomp and ceremony her Maj has very little actual power. Quote:
I've always found it odd that people living abroad accept a foreign queen. As far as I'm concerned, Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of England.
She's English, she lives in England, her family are English and most of her funding comes from England. |
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We can always do what France did have a insane uprising like the era of Napoleon and his men behead all the royales one by one.And then make some qango our President and get rid of all the castle Buckenham palace,and all that comes with it but that won't be anytime soon and do we really want that.Some modern day Napoleon and uprising in the 21 centurie.Do I think Commenwelth nation will reject the royales in time yes I think these countries,have moved on from colonial past,I can see the Queen still playing a role just like in America but she will be less important as they were.
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We can always do what France did have a insane uprising like the era of Napoleon and his men behead all the royales one by one.And then make some qango our President and get rid of all the castle Buckenham palace,and all that comes with it but that won't be anytime soon and do we really want that.Some modern day Napoleon and uprising in the 21 centurie.Do I think Commenwelth nation will reject the royales in time yes I think these countries,have moved on from colonial past,I can see the Queen still playing a role just like in America but she will be less important as they were.
someones been on the sherry i think
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What do you mean by getting rid of Buck palace castle? we flog it on ebay for a starting price of a fiver?
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Good Idea we can sell Buckingham Palace on ebay and the Queen head crown aswell.And the sord we cut their head with.
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How many people in favour of abolishing the Royal Family and having a democratically elected Head of State are happy with the currently democratically elected Prime Minister, or the result of the democratic referendum on whether we should leave the European Union?
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In addition to their unresolved personal issues you will also find that those wishing to 'remove' the Royal family have an underlying dislike of Great Britain itself. In Scotland for example, the vast majority of nationalists only support the SNP because they wish to weaken or harm the UK in any way possible even if it destroys Scotland in the process. To them, its a price worth paying.
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How many people in favour of abolishing the Royal Family and having a democratically elected Head of State are happy with the currently democratically elected Prime Minister, or the result of the democratic referendum on whether we should leave the European Union?
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In addition to their unresolved personal issues you will also find that those wishing to 'remove' the Royal family have an underlying dislike of Great Britain itself. In Scotland for example, the vast majority of nationalists only support the SNP because they wish to weaken or harm the UK in any way possible even if it destroys Scotland in the process. To them, its a price worth paying.
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I'm sure the SNP policy was to keep Elizabeth as head of state of an independent Scotland.
Whilst the SNP were publicly stating they would keep the Queen, Ministers ( SNP MSP'S) and other party members were saying that if they won they would then look to vote on whether to keep the Queen or not but not until after they had won independence |
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In addition to their unresolved personal issues you will also find that those wishing to 'remove' the Royal family have an underlying dislike of Great Britain itself.
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Really? How do you come to that conclusion? Sounds like pure nonsense.
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