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Shopping at Lidls
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Esensuelle
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Brandy211:
“Waitrose salaries aren't great. https://www.jobapplications.co.uk/wa...-salary-chart/
In fact the pay there is pretty poor at £7 per hour and less than Lidl pay their staff. Lidl pay a minimum of £8.20 per hour & £9.25 in London.

Waitrose give staff a discount of 25% and 10% off electricals.
Lidl give staff 10% discount”

Well I hope not as they'd be breaking the law.
Welsh-lad
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aetius_Maralas:
“Used perfectly thanks.

But you seem to have a problem with me, so it's no surprise, just as you being wrong again when trying to be picky about one of my posts.

Better luck next time, maybe you could address the point and look a little less silly.”

I see that your 'contribution' to the thread was to sneer at another poster rather than addressing the topic, so I shan't take a lecture from a rather feeble hypocrite such as yourself.
Welsh-lad
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Esensuelle:
“What a bizarre thing to say!? How someone chooses to spend their money (legally of course) has nothing to do with an employer. Choosing to do your shopping at Marks and Spencer or Waitrose does not make you bad, stupid or thick.

As strange as it may sound some people can afford to do their weekly shop in these stores, it doesn't necessarily mean they are appalling with money.”

This was part of the point I was making.
Ther person in question was implying that only the impoverished shop at places like Lidl.
Do you agree with that?
barbeler
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by GloriaSnockers:
“If difficulty in sourcing a product temporarily takes my weekly parsley spend from £3 to approx £14(!)”

Why feed them on parsley when it seems they go into ecstacy over brussels sprouts? www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtfZ345tPXs

Originally Posted by Anonimus:
“Have you seen the five items or less queues at Aldi?”

But they don't have five items or less tills in Aldi – or was that some kind of point you were trying to make?
barbeler
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Brandy211:
“Waitrose salaries aren't great. https://www.jobapplications.co.uk/wa...-salary-chart/
In fact the pay there is pretty poor at £7 per hour and less than Lidl pay their staff. Lidl pay a minimum of £8.20 per hour & £9.25 in London.

Waitrose give staff a discount of 25% and 10% off electricals.
Lidl give staff 10% discount”

I remember that Aldi were paying £7 an hour back in the 1990s. I was tempted to pack in my well-paid but stressful job to go and work there.
Thine Wonk
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“This was part of the point I was making.
Ther person in question was implying that only the impoverished shop at places like Lidl.
Do you agree with that?”

So you thought you'd join them and make an equally silly opposite point, stating that people who spend money shopping elsewhere other than German discount supermarkets somehow should be looked at by their employer and risk their jobs.

I have tried Aldi and Lidl, but they don't really appeal to me because I prefer some of the branded goods, I prefer a wider range of products on sale, wider aisles, self service checkouts and just in general I'm not on a very tight budget. I don't think that makes me a bad person as you suggested, or not worthy of my job.
barbeler
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“I have tried Aldi and Lidl, but they don't really appeal to me because I prefer some of the branded goods, I prefer a wider range of products on sale, wider aisles, self service checkouts and just in general I'm not on a very tight budget. I don't think that makes me a bad person as you suggested, or not worthy of my job.”

And yet I go to Aldi because of the much wider range of goods on sale and because of the quality of their own-brand goods. The aisles are probably wide enough to drive a car through, so I can't imagine my anybody would want them wider. It would be silly of a shop to waste floor space in that way.
Thine Wonk
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“And yet I go to Aldi because of the much wider range of goods on sale and because of the quality of their own-brand goods. The aisles are probably wide enough to drive a car through, so I can't imagine my anybody would want them wider. It would be silly of a shop to waste floor space in that way.”

The point of having the aisles not quite so narrow is because of trolleys, you need to be able to have somebody with a trolley on both sides and still be able to get yours through.

I prefer the big superstores as there's much more space and people aren't on top of each other all the time. It isn't silly of a shop to 'waste' space as you call it, it's about a more enjoyable shopping experience with more space in store.

There isn't a much wider range of goods at Aldi at all, how would that be possible in a store 1/4 the size, if you take the sachet coffee boxes for example Aldi will have a small selection of own brands, whereas a large Tesco or Sainsbury's will have several different brands, all different flavours, lates, capuchinos, lite late, light cappuccino, mocha, and all sorts there would be a much wider choice.

Aldi (in-store they are unlikely to even have all 16 listed on the comparison website)
https://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/aldi...uccino_10.html

Sainsbury's
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/...=&beginIndex=0

..and that's just 1 example of 1 product, you could times this by 60 for all the different items you might want to put in a trolley in a shop.

The greater choice, the different brands, the proper known brands, the wider aisles, the self service checkout option vs normal checkouts, many more of them, but I don't mind as the cost isn't the primary deciding factor in where I shop, the shopping experience, choice and quality are all important to me.
BlueEyedMrsP
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Los_Tributos:
“I think it's a good thing that such shops exist, but I'm grateful that I earn a good salary so don't have to shop there.”

Are you assuming that only those at the lower end of the earning spectrum shop at Aldi/Lidl? What would this be based on? Surely not actual experience or observation as regular patrons could tell you that all sorts of people from varying income brackets shop there. Not that I've ever asked to see confirmation of their earnings , but nice cars, well dressed, etc., would indicate they're not exactly hovering around poverty level. And not all of the stuff in those shops is "cheap". Those big ham legs, for example, were at Aldi this year for about £40, not something I would think is affordable to poor folks. Also, lobster tails, scallops, £20/kg smoked salmon... again, these obviously are on offer for a more upmarket crowd. They have a value or basic range on many things of course, but so do every other supermarket including M&S, Sainsbury's and Waitrose.

I suspect there are people who haven't been in these shops for a long time and don't realise how much they've changed. It's not something to be embarrassed about to shop there.
Thine Wonk
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by BlueEyedMrsP:
“Are you assuming that only those at the lower end of the earning spectrum shop at Aldi/Lidl? What would this be based on? Surely not actual experience or observation as regular patrons could tell you that all sorts of people from varying income brackets shop there. Not that I've ever asked to see confirmation of their earnings , but nice cars, well dressed, etc., would indicate they're not exactly hovering around poverty level. And not all of the stuff in those shops is "cheap". Those big ham legs, for example, were at Aldi this year for about £40, not something I would think is affordable to poor folks. Also, lobster tails, scallops, £20/kg smoked salmon... again, these obviously are on offer for a more upmarket crowd. They have a value or basic range on many things of course, but so do every other supermarket including M&S, Sainsbury's and Waitrose.

I suspect there are people who haven't been in these shops for a long time and don't realise how much they've changed. It's not something to be embarrassed about to shop there.”

If you look at the market share by demographic, based on the social grades AB being upper class and upper middle, C1, C2, D,E etc it is the case that Aldi and LIdl has seen a massive growth in AB, it accounts for 1/3rd of their customers according to the latest research.

However if the whole shopping market is 100% and Aldi and Lidl account for 10% (which is the case), then 90% of shopping is done elsewhere.

If 1/3rd of their customers are AB, that's 3.3% of the shopping market, but the AB market as a whole is 27%. The majority of AB shoping carried out at Waitrose, Sainsbury's, Wholefoods, Marks & Spencer etc but Aldo and Lidl have done well to attract a percentage of the AB market.
GloriaSnockers
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“Why feed them on parsley when it seems they go into ecstacy over brussels sprouts? www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtfZ345tPXs”

Lol. I tried them on sprouts after seeing that video a couple of weeks ago and the reaction was 'Mmmm. Munch, munch. Yum. Yum Yum. Where's the parsley?'. I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a full up guinea pig

Anyhow, the reason I resurrected this thread was to mention that I have just Googled our local Aldi to see if the opening times were back to normal, and Google (who are all-seeing due to people 'checking in' etc on their mobile devices) have a chart on the search page which says underneath it 'Plan your visit: People typically spend 25 min here.' Which would suggest that the limited parking time is more than adequate for most people.
Faust
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“So you thought you'd join them and make an equally silly opposite point, stating that people who spend money shopping elsewhere other than German discount supermarkets somehow should be looked at by their employer and risk their jobs.

I have tried Aldi and Lidl, but they don't really appeal to me because I prefer some of the branded goods, I prefer a wider range of products on sale, wider aisles, self service checkouts and just in general I'm not on a very tight budget. I don't think that makes me a bad person as you suggested, or not worthy of my job.”

Have you seen the myth of branded goods exploded week after week after week on the BBC programme 'eat well for less'?

Brand snobbery is the worst betrayal of all by large food manufacturers. On the BBC programme how many times did we see people saying 'I can only eat X brand or I only like Y branded food. When they were disguised more often than not the people taking part in the programme picked the non branded items and again quite often preferred the food from the discounters.

What has not being or being on a 'tight budget' got to do with this? I'm not on a tight budget but I do like to get good value for my money and I like tasty food.

The 'discounters' score highly on both counts. Lidl has some of the fastest check-outs I have ever experienced. They also have Apple and Android Pay and given I rarely exceed the £30 barrier I find this feature extremely useful.
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