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Hospitals in England charge staff for parking!
Now I can just about concede they may have an argument about visitors as it's difficult to know who is visiting the hospital for legitimate reasons... but staff??
What sort of employer financially penalises its employees for turning up to work? is it acceptable? |
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The hospitals in Leicester don't allow some staff to park at all. You only get a parking space if you need a vehicle for work.
I don't know this exact details but I understand that everyone had to apply for a permit a couple of years ago and if you didn't qualify you were not allowed to use hospital car parks. I went to one of the presentations on this to talk about Leicester's park and ride as an alternative option (i worked in public transport at one of the local authorities at the time). |
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Free in Scotland...
..cos we pay for it. |
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job? |
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If employees are offered free parking in a place where others pay, the tax man sees it as a benefit and it is taxable.
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The hospitals in Leicester don't allow some staff to park at all. You only get a parking space if you need a vehicle for work.
I don't know this exact details but I understand that everyone had to apply for a permit a couple of years ago and if you didn't qualify you were not allowed to use hospital car parks. I went to one of the presentations on this to talk about Leicester's park and ride as an alternative option (i worked in public transport at one of the local authorities at the time). And public transport is not always a viable option for hospital staff who often need to travel early or late when there are no buses. |
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job?
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If employees are offered free parking in a place where others pay, the tax man sees it as a benefit and it is taxable.
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What sort of employer financially penalises its employees for turning up to work? is it acceptable?
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MPs get reimbursed for their travel costs, on generous expense allowances. Surely other public servants should be entitled to the same?
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It's not uncommon for employee's in other lines of work to have to pay for parking, essentially any place of work that doesn't have its own car park. But at a hospital or any place of employment that has plenty of onsite car parking it's taking the michael.
Especially hospitals where those car parks were built and paid for with OUR taxes! Nor can I concede that charging patients and visitors to park up is reasonable. I find it immoral and unethical. NHS "free at the point of access".. Yeah, free as long as you don't mind paying £6.50 (or whatever) to attend your appointment, or go over time because so many appointments run late. Arguably, parking charges to go town centre shopping, or parking at a train station or airport are fair game because these are things we choose to do. But we don't choose to get ill or have a car accident. It must be just awful for low income families to have to pay parking fee's to go visit a loved one. As if the distress of having someone close in hospital isn't bad enough already, then they have to spend food and heating money just to go see them. So wrong. |
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Sorry I meant to post a link... Leeds top bill for hospital parking fines Quote:
Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust has netted itself almost £80,000 in car parking fines over the last year, according to new figures.
The data was collected by the Press Association, which asked some 120 NHS trusts across England to give figures on parking charges and fines under the Freedom of Information Act - 89 provided responses. Data on parking fines, provided by 27 trusts, showed they made £2,300,208 in fines over a four year period - with Leeds earning the most from fining patients, visitors and staff on hospital grounds, at £78,595. In 2015/16 alone, £635,387 was made from fining patients, visitors and staff on hospital grounds. |
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Now I can just about concede they may have an argument about visitors as it's difficult to know who is visiting the hospital for legitimate reasons... but staff??
What sort of employer financially penalises its employees for turning up to work? is it acceptable? I also work for the NHS, but in several smaller community clinics and in some of them I have to pay to park locally as the site has minimal parking, although if this isn't my main place of work I can claim it back but only the very cheapest one which is usually a bit of a walk (or the cities park and ride scheme). What is the alternative? Staff taking up all the patient parking spaces? Most jobs in my experience don't pay for their staff's parking if there isn't a dedicated staff carpark. |
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I'm £370/year to park at work, or £5 for a permit + £2.80 per day.
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If employees are offered free parking in a place where others pay, the tax man sees it as a benefit and it is taxable.
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I'm £370/year to park at work, or £5 for a permit + £2.80 per day.
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Same round our way.
Pay and display car park, yet if you overstay by just a few minutes, then you get hit with a £100 penalty charge, reduced to £60 if you pay promptly and don't appeal it. So you are supposed therefore to know exactly how long you will be there for, and try and guess how many hours late your appointment will be when putting money into the machine. And comically, the car park had travellers stay there for several days - of course Parking Eye left them well alone. |
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job? |
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job? However, nurses have to renew their registration fee yearly, which is currently £120 per annum, which, like doctors they pay themselves. Just thought I would set the record straight.
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Why on earth would you not charge for parking. Why should the tax payer pay. You'll expect the taxpayer to fund their fuel next. If you own a car parking is part of the cost.
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Doctors have to pay GMC registration fees annually @ over £400 a year which has to come out of their own pocket! And medical indemnity fees too which can run into hundreds or thousands of pounds.
![]() The NHS and private employers also pay the fees for doctors too. GP's, as they are actually self employed have to fund their own fees. |
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Nurses are subject to medical indemnity fees also. However, these tend to be paid by the employer whether private employers or NHS.
The NHS and private employers also pay the fees for doctors too. GP's, as they are actually self employed have to fund their own fees. However... the NHS Indemnity lawyers' primary responsibility is to the hospital not the doctor. If a hospital doctor finds himself before the GMC for whatever reason, or if there is press attention, then the NHS/hospital doesn't have any responsibility to assist the doctor. They are also not covered by NHS indemnity for things to do outwith the NHS - this includes Good Samaritan acts. |
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Now I can just about concede they may have an argument about visitors as it's difficult to know who is visiting the hospital for legitimate reasons... but staff??
What sort of employer financially penalises its employees for turning up to work? is it acceptable? |
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Why on earth would you not charge for parking. Why should the tax payer pay. You'll expect the taxpayer to fund their fuel next. If you own a car parking is part of the cost.
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Free in Scotland...
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job? It's not nearly as much as doctors pay to maintain their registration. It is annoying paying to park but I've always done it. When I worked in a central London hospital there were very limited spaces and the charge was over £1000 a year for a guaranteed space (this was back in the 1990s). Where I work now (outer London) the charge is around £30 per month but that does not guarantee a space and I have to get in early. I've had loads of tickets and have occasionally resorted to using the public car park at a cost of £15 per day, in addition to my monthly payment which is deducted from salary. However, when I first started working at that hospital it was free but, being near a tube station, the car park was always full with commuters so I didn't mind too much when charges and restrictions were introduced. Now the problem is that the closure of nearby units and amalgamation of staff on one site has led to difficulties parking again. At least the cost deters staff who live reasonably near the hospital from taking up spaces. We all have to apply but, being a shift worker, the car parking company is obliged to issue me (and most doctors and nurses) with permits. |
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