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I am in two minds over parking charges, if a place is central and easy to get to then people could use public transport. However, if as many places are now in out of town locations and without public transport at all times to cater for antisocial hours then provision should be made for staff.
When it comes to hospitals most big ones have carparks they charge relatives and patients to use, firstly instead of buying a ticket in advance why not operate them on a pay as you leave basis (so people do not worry and get fines for overstaying) and why not make them two tier, dig under and have a staff car park on a basement level free of charge and public car park on top, if they are handing these car parks over to companies to run them get that company to pay to convert them and then they keep the income from the pay car park. |
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Of course. They should pay for their parking, their car, their petrol, their meals etc.
What planet are you on? And why are nurses so special. They do a wonderful job, just like millions of other people. What a bizarre thought that we should subsidise everyone to go to work. Car parks provided for staff to leave their cars while they are working to care for patients should not incur any charges at all Patients, relatives etc, that is a different matter and charges should be made appropriately. |
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When it comes to hospitals most big ones have carparks they charge relatives and patients to use, firstly instead of buying a ticket in advance why not operate them on a pay as you leave basis (so people do not worry and get fines for overstaying) and why not make them two tier, dig under and have a staff car park on a basement level free of charge and public car park on top, if they are handing these car parks over to companies to run them get that company to pay to convert them and then they keep the income from the pay car park.
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I think employers that charge their staff for parking send out the message that they don't value them enough.
I don't accept the argument that charging is necessary due to lack of parking space - other posters have mentioned that they pay for a parking permit and are still not guaranteed a parking place... I'm sorry but in my view that's swizzlesticks... as you are not getting what you have paid for. You are paying hundreds of £ annually for something that you may or may not get?!! |
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I think employers that charge their staff for parking send out the message that they don't value them enough.
I don't accept the argument that charging is necessary due to lack of parking space - other posters have mentioned that they pay for a parking permit and are still not guaranteed a parking place... I'm sorry but in my view that's swizzlesticks... as you are not getting what you have paid for. You are paying hundreds of £ annually for something that you may or may not get?!! The car parks don't have enough spaces for all the staff who want to park. Most hospitals maintain separate staff and public use car parking facilities so we can't use non staff spaces unless we pay additional charges. The staff parking monthly charge at least deters those who work conventional hours within easy commuting distance from using their cars - although those staff probably wouldn't be given permits anyway. |
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Because I'm an essential car user, I can park for free when at the office. All the admin staff have to pay to park on the road, or walk a long way in, unless they come by public transport. Local government staff based here also have to pay to park, unless they are essential car users.
At the hospitals, staff have to pay for a permit, either for the hospital car parks or, in the case of Brighton, to park on the street where parking is restricted to residents and hospital permit holders. I feel sorry for people who live outside the main towns, where public transport is very limited, because they have no choice but to drive in. |
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Not "everyone" is in the business of saving lives and I would suggest that there is a pretty compelling case for making exceptions in these circumstances.
To put it mildly, I would be a tad upset to discover that the doctor or nurse who was supposed to be taking care of me or a loved one was instead crusing the hospital car park or nearby streets trying desperately to find a parking space! I recognise that on site car parking cannot physically be provided for everyone but it really should not be beyond the wit of hospital administrators to figure out some system whereby dedicated car parking space can be made available to key medical personnel for the duration of their shifts and without charge. I really don't think it's asking too much to allow such a concession. |
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Now I can just about concede they may have an argument about visitors as it's difficult to know who is visiting the hospital for legitimate reasons... but staff??
What sort of employer financially penalises its employees for turning up to work? is it acceptable? |
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I think that any parking fees incurred during the course of carrying out patient-related business would be claimed back as expenses.
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I think employers that charge their staff for parking send out the message that they don't value them enough.
Have you also considered the difficulties in obtaining planning permission for huge numbers of parking spaces? New developments are expected to have green travel plans, and giving away free parking spaces to all employees doesn't fit that. |
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I work in a hospital & it costs me £360 per annum to park.
I was annoyed about it initially, but the hospital built a fancy 5 storery carpark to cater for all the staff, because parking used to be such a problem, so I convinced myself it was reasonable to help pay for the carpark & to pretty much guarantee a space, whereas before, we still had to pay, but if I was on a late shift, there was no way I'd ever have been able to find a parking space. |
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Lucky if they have on-site parking. I currently pay £2400 a year to park my car near the office. Still works out cheaper than using public transport though.
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My daughter is a nurse and has a parking permit, renewable yearly
Unless she goes to work early she risks not getting a decent parking space Also she has to pay to renew her registration, every 3 years, where once it was a one off payment for life Who else has to pay to do their job? |
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The hospitals in Leicester don't allow some staff to park at all. You only get a parking space if you need a vehicle for work.
I don't know this exact details but I understand that everyone had to apply for a permit a couple of years ago and if you didn't qualify you were not allowed to use hospital car parks. I went to one of the presentations on this to talk about Leicester's park and ride as an alternative option (i worked in public transport at one of the local authorities at the time). |
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wrong! i work in glasgow royal infirmary and i pay £120 per month to park
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I don't really see why anyone should have to pay for hospital parking, to be honest. No one is there voluntarily - they're either there by necessity or visiting someone who is. It's a horrendous expense as well - back when I was in hospital for a month two years back (surgery gone badly wrong) my boyfriend visited every day and it was costing him £40 odd a week which at the time was serious money to us. We could only afford it because we weren't spending money on food for me!
And the notion that staff have to pay for that when they're already treated appallingly and on wages that a civilised country should be ashamed of... disgusting. |
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So that's minus £1440 from your annual salary before taxes. Just so that you can get to work.
![]() If your car is essential to your work, for example community staff Or if public transport is not available when the shift starts or finishes |
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I work in a trust that is comprised of 3 hospitals and the team I work in work across all 3 every rota, so the drivers have to pay for permits for 3 hospitals
however in London all 3 can be got too by public transport - I do and others in the team, so I guess if they opt to drive then thats their choice |
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Many city or town centre hospitals were built 100 years ago or more, and have outgrown their sites with no room to expand further. When new hospitals are built they should be on brownfield sites with new public transport links and plenty of parking space available incorporated into the design of the new site.
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Loads of people pay to come to work be that parking fees or transport costs. I think the differences are
If your car is essential to your work, for example community staff Or if public transport is not available when the shift starts or finishes |
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the trust I work for provides taxis if you finish at a time when there is no public transport
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I think it's bad planning. They build these places in hard-to-reach areas with lots of land, yet never plan to put in a/several multi-storey car parks, including a staff car park, even though they are in areas with lots of land!
In the USA they use vertical parking - eg. this ferris wheel parking idea, which is great - we really need to start thinking along these lines! https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/a...ucks.html?_r=0 |
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