Good. Better safe than sorry.
Armed Police On Streets Of London New Years Eve
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There were armed police in Belfast on the run up to Christmas, you don't see that very often over here believe it or not.
http://news.sky.com/story/northumbri...mages-10693093
There were armed policemen in Newcastle before Christmas as well.
I feel sad that we have come to this.
There were armed policemen in Newcastle before Christmas as well.
I feel sad that we have come to this.
We had some at a local station a few weeks back, just outside London, with a sniffer dog team. They arrested about 30 people for carrying pot, and so it was hailed as a success in my local paper.
It's good to know we are being kept safe in our beds eh?
It's good to know we are being kept safe in our beds eh?
Very surreal photos.
Even when I was young and fearless and travelled the world, I was always a bit uncomfortable when coming across law-enforcement and defence forces who openly carried guns in supposedly peaceful surroundings.
Even when I was young and fearless and travelled the world, I was always a bit uncomfortable when coming across law-enforcement and defence forces who openly carried guns in supposedly peaceful surroundings.
A bit OT sorry. Was in Victoria Coach Station the other day when I received a tap on the shoulder and a gruff voice said "move your case sir", I turned round and just realised in time that I was about to tell 2 enormous armed coppers to go screw themselves.
As you can imagine, a meek "of course officers" was my reply
As you can imagine, a meek "of course officers" was my reply
Originally Posted by tealady:
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
Are you banging on about the typo "pain" instead of "plain"? If not, stop being so tediously cryptic and explain what you're trying to say.
Rather ironic that the words you typed and what you're trying to say seen to be known only to you...
Originally Posted by tealady:
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
Originally Posted by TrollHunter:
“Are you banging on about the typo "pain" instead of "plain"? If not, stop being so tediously cryptic and explain what you're trying to say.
Rather ironic that the words you typed and what you're trying to say seen to be known only to you...”
“Are you banging on about the typo "pain" instead of "plain"? If not, stop being so tediously cryptic and explain what you're trying to say.
Rather ironic that the words you typed and what you're trying to say seen to be known only to you...”
"Thete"?
Originally Posted by tealady:
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
“Thete is a disjunct between the words that are typed and posted that are visible to everyone else and what you think you typed.
Reread the post I quoted.”
Congratulations!
You have won the Most Ironic Thing Said On the Internet 2016 award.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“As opposed to being another smug nowt outside London worth owt thread?”
“As opposed to being another smug nowt outside London worth owt thread?”
We Londoners may believe that we live in the garden spot of the U.K., but you won't hear us use the words "nowt" or "owt"
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“Very surreal photos.
Even when I was young and fearless and travelled the world, I was always a bit uncomfortable when coming across law-enforcement and defence forces who openly carried guns in supposedly peaceful surroundings.”
“Very surreal photos.
Even when I was young and fearless and travelled the world, I was always a bit uncomfortable when coming across law-enforcement and defence forces who openly carried guns in supposedly peaceful surroundings.”
Funny that, cops openly carrying sidearms just seemed part of the scenery abroad, in fact I'd have been more alarmed to see a gendarme on the Rue de Rivoli unarmed than carrying, just as seeing an unarmed cop in Union Sq. N.Y.C. would be unusual.
Conversely, Brit cops carrying sub machine guns and/or sidearms put me on edge.
I tend to think that they've never grown up, and see themselves as John Wayne types, itching to pull the trigger at the drop of a hat.
Please God if they were ever needed, their training would kick in, and they'd only shoot the bad guys.
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“We Londoners may believe that we live in the garden spot of the U.K., but you won't hear us use the words "nowt" or "owt"
Funny that, cops openly carrying sidearms just seemed part of the scenery abroad, in fact I'd have been more alarmed to see a gendarme on the Rue de Rivoli unarmed than carrying, just as seeing an unarmed cop in Union Sq. N.Y.C. would be unusual.
Conversely, Brit cops carrying sub machine guns and/or sidearms put me on edge.
I tend to think that they've never grown up, and see themselves as John Wayne types, itching to pull the trigger at the drop of a hat.
Please God if they were ever needed, their training would kick in, and they'd only shoot the bad guys.”
“We Londoners may believe that we live in the garden spot of the U.K., but you won't hear us use the words "nowt" or "owt"
Funny that, cops openly carrying sidearms just seemed part of the scenery abroad, in fact I'd have been more alarmed to see a gendarme on the Rue de Rivoli unarmed than carrying, just as seeing an unarmed cop in Union Sq. N.Y.C. would be unusual.
Conversely, Brit cops carrying sub machine guns and/or sidearms put me on edge.
I tend to think that they've never grown up, and see themselves as John Wayne types, itching to pull the trigger at the drop of a hat.
Please God if they were ever needed, their training would kick in, and they'd only shoot the bad guys.”
Considering how many routinely armed police we have, and how long that has been the case, the extremely low numbers of shootings there have been should allay your fears.
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“We Londoners may believe that we live in the garden spot of the U.K., but you won't hear us use the words "nowt" or "owt"
Funny that, cops openly carrying sidearms just seemed part of the scenery abroad, in fact I'd have been more alarmed to see a gendarme on the Rue de Rivoli unarmed than carrying, just as seeing an unarmed cop in Union Sq. N.Y.C. would be unusual.
Conversely, Brit cops carrying sub machine guns and/or sidearms put me on edge.
I tend to think that they've never grown up, and see themselves as John Wayne types, itching to pull the trigger at the drop of a hat.
Please God if they were ever needed, their training would kick in, and they'd only shoot the bad guys.”
“We Londoners may believe that we live in the garden spot of the U.K., but you won't hear us use the words "nowt" or "owt"
Funny that, cops openly carrying sidearms just seemed part of the scenery abroad, in fact I'd have been more alarmed to see a gendarme on the Rue de Rivoli unarmed than carrying, just as seeing an unarmed cop in Union Sq. N.Y.C. would be unusual.
Conversely, Brit cops carrying sub machine guns and/or sidearms put me on edge.
I tend to think that they've never grown up, and see themselves as John Wayne types, itching to pull the trigger at the drop of a hat.
Please God if they were ever needed, their training would kick in, and they'd only shoot the bad guys.”
No British police officer carries a sub machine gun. And to say they are inching to pulling the trigger is rather silly.
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“Considering how many routinely armed police we have, and how long that has been the case, the extremely low numbers of shootings there have been should allay your fears.”
“Considering how many routinely armed police we have, and how long that has been the case, the extremely low numbers of shootings there have been should allay your fears.”
I take your point D.P., and cannot argue with it, but what I was trying to convey was that Belgian, Italian, and Spanish cops look perfectly natural with a side arm on their hips.
Brit cops always give me the impression that they've been up since 3 a.m. checking themselves and their gun in the mirror, ready for an 8 a.m. start, absolutely bursting to wow the public with their macho firearms on display.
For monkey moo, perhaps I should have said machine pistol, and if they're not ITCHING to pull the trigger, they look as if they'd welcome the opportunity.
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I once thundered through an empty Gate and down a walkway at Doha, Qatar Airport for a flight back to Abu Dhabi.
The aircraft was empty, save for a guard seated in 1A reading The Sun (probably Sam Fox), with a Sten Gun on the adjacent seat. We were both quite bemused.
But I'm very glad he didn't shoot me.
(I got a 1 hr Time Difference wrong)
The aircraft was empty, save for a guard seated in 1A reading The Sun (probably Sam Fox), with a Sten Gun on the adjacent seat. We were both quite bemused.
But I'm very glad he didn't shoot me.
(I got a 1 hr Time Difference wrong)
the armed police will be guarding the firework area just in case anyone without a ticket gets too close 
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“I take your point D.P., and cannot argue with it, but what I was trying to convey was that Belgian, Italian, and Spanish cops look perfectly natural with a side arm on their hips.
Brit cops always give me the impression that they've been up since 3 a.m. checking themselves and their gun in the mirror, ready for an 8 a.m. start, absolutely bursting to wow the public with their macho firearms on display.
For monkey moo, perhaps I should have said machine pistol, and if they're not ITCHING to pull the trigger, they look as if they'd welcome the opportunity.”
“I take your point D.P., and cannot argue with it, but what I was trying to convey was that Belgian, Italian, and Spanish cops look perfectly natural with a side arm on their hips.
Brit cops always give me the impression that they've been up since 3 a.m. checking themselves and their gun in the mirror, ready for an 8 a.m. start, absolutely bursting to wow the public with their macho firearms on display.
For monkey moo, perhaps I should have said machine pistol, and if they're not ITCHING to pull the trigger, they look as if they'd welcome the opportunity.”
I dont know what an itching to pull the trigger look is, they never taught us that when I was on Firearms.
None of them would be welcome to pull the trigger, and the fact so few do proves the point.
If they do, they are pretty much subjected to a murder investigation, and all that goes with it, which is not pleasant.
I'm pretty sure police in the UK have machine guns, I've seen them. I don't know the difference between a machine gun or sub machine gun though. However they do carry very large machine guns.
Always see armed police in London, especially around big events. Nothing new here. As long as the don't go around shooting innocent Brazilians, they don't bother me.
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“I dont know what an itching to pull the trigger look is, they never taught us that when I was on Firearms.
None of them would be welcome to pull the trigger, and the fact so few do proves the point.
If they do, they are pretty much subjected to a murder investigation, and all that goes with it, which is not pleasant.”
“I dont know what an itching to pull the trigger look is, they never taught us that when I was on Firearms.
None of them would be welcome to pull the trigger, and the fact so few do proves the point.
If they do, they are pretty much subjected to a murder investigation, and all that goes with it, which is not pleasant.”
it's all about perception, when driving past the Saudi embassy I always drive very slowly in case one of them mothers pop a cap in my ass for speeding
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“it's all about perception, when driving past the Saudi embassy I always drive very slowly in case one of them mothers pop a cap in my ass for speeding”
“it's all about perception, when driving past the Saudi embassy I always drive very slowly in case one of them mothers pop a cap in my ass for speeding
”
While you may be right in being concerned about the armed cops on duty at the Saudi embassy, or any embassy in London come to that, it would be very difficult to drive at an excess speed past the building.
Approaching from Park Lane along Curzon Street, you'd be braking reasonably hard as you drew level with the embassy gates, as you are forced left into Queen Street, Mayfair within 20 or 25 metres.
Likewise, it would be difficult to get up a head of steam past the other entrance in Charles Street, as the street is quite short.
Last edited by razorback Tony : 30-12-2016 at 17:29
Originally Posted by Monkey_Moo:
“No British police officer carries a sub machine gun. And to say they are inching to pulling the trigger is rather silly.”
“No British police officer carries a sub machine gun. And to say they are inching to pulling the trigger is rather silly.”
Think you need to take a look again, next time you're in a major airport (Heathrow for one) especially when there's a high terror threat level. I've seen massive guys with MP5's, G36's and SIG MCX's - although they could have been the single fire variants. With regards to itching to pull the trigger - every firearm trained UK office I've ever met and EVERY NYPD officer I've had the pleasure of interacting with all know what pulling that trigger entails and hopes they never have to do it.
With regards to openly carrying armed officers, whilst they're not always walking around "strapped," take a look at patrol cars every so often. In many areas (Norfolk/Suffolk, Thames Valley, Met, and some others) - see that little yellow dot/asterisk in the rear quarterlight or on the rear window? That (so I am led to believe) indicates "Firearms on board." so the officers can respond appropriately if needs be. As to what firearms are on board, I don't know what they'd routinely carry with regards to rifles (if at all) but I suspect Glock 17s (standard UK LEO issue!) with spare mags to be in there for trained officers to use and only accessible with senior officer's authority.
The u/c officers on NYE duty will probably have the smaller Glock 26's for concealed carry.
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“I'm pretty sure police in the UK have machine guns, I've seen them. I don't know the difference between a machine gun or sub machine gun though. However they do carry very large machine guns.”
“I'm pretty sure police in the UK have machine guns, I've seen them. I don't know the difference between a machine gun or sub machine gun though. However they do carry very large machine guns.”
The main difference between machine and submachine guns is the size of the round use, sub is normally the stuff used in pistols.
The UK police while in theory they are allowed everything the armed forced are strapped by the fact that they have to account for every time they pull the trigger and even pulling the weapon can mean a lot of paperwork.
You won't ever have full auto (i hope) unless its a serious event, but there is a very select London firearms team who are trained to special forces as the SAS were not happy with the camera time so they're expected to be pretty as much as good as them so i can imagine them having a lot more options available.
My sister tells me that there is a lot more police visible in london today when compared to last NYE
The SAS is on the streets on London, undercover patrolling certain areas and there helicopters on stand by, and I heard SAS on motorbikes as required within a couple of minutes.
The police and other agencies are doing a good job protecting the hard working/decent/tax paying people of London
I saty in NYE and the nights before as to rowdy imo
The SAS is on the streets on London, undercover patrolling certain areas and there helicopters on stand by, and I heard SAS on motorbikes as required within a couple of minutes.
The police and other agencies are doing a good job protecting the hard working/decent/tax paying people of London
I saty in NYE and the nights before as to rowdy imo
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