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Old 29-12-2016, 21:30
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New legal challenges demanding Parliament has greater control over the Brexit process have been lodged at the High Court, it has been reported.
Four anonymous claimants have joined a judicial review of the Government's EU withdrawal plans, according to The Guardian.
The claims, lodged in the names of people identified only as W, L, T and B, have been accepted for consideration by the High Court, the newspaper said.
The challenges say Britain will remain in the European Economic Area (EEA) and the single market after withdrawal. They insist that Parliamentary approval, separate from that to begin Brexit negotiations, is needed to quit the EEA.
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FFS this just goes from bad to worse. This is being obstructive completely trying to frustrate the process. I have a feeling this is from the "Centre for British Influence Through Europe".........in other words Peter Mandelson and co.

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Old 29-12-2016, 21:52
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A fresh legal challenge has been launched against Britain leaving the single market and the European free-trade bloc after Theresa May triggers Brexit.
Campaigners from pressure-group has lodged papers with the High Court on behalf of four claimants demanding a parliamentary vote on Britain leaving the European Economic Area and single market.
It is a separate case to the one already brought by campaigners including GIna Miller being considered by the Supreme Court on whether MPs must vote before the government triggers Article 50 and leaves the EU.
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Old 29-12-2016, 21:57
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I wonder what W, L, T and B stand for.

I can think of a few possibilities.
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Old 29-12-2016, 21:59
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Once you allow one challenge this is what happens

Any Tom, dick and Harry with money can challenge things if they don't agree or risk losing their wealth.

Set a dangerous precedent opening this can of worms

Basically people who have money win so it's s monopoly like Soviet Russia !
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:01
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I wonder what W, L, T and B stand for.

I can think of a few possibilities.
W***er laughing tw***ing bastards?
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:02
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Basically people who have money win!
As I was told once, life is like a sh*t sandwich. The more bread you have the less sh*t you have to eat.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:03
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Once you allow one challenge this is what happens

Any Tom, dick and Harry with money can challenge things if they don't agree or risk losing their wealth.

Set a dangerous precedent opening this can of worms

Basically people who have money win so it's s monopoly like Soviet Russia !
That is onne of my main concerns, people starting court cases like this will only frustrate the process and make Brexit all the more difficult. I just don't think why they think they have the right to try and overturn a democratic decision, they claim to be doing in the name of democracy.

The courts shouldn't even be involved in this process to begin with, they are not elected so shouldn't have any say on this matter IMHO.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:06
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It just means yet more taxpayer money will be used to counter the challenge.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:09
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I'm going to launch a High Court case to insist that Theresa May wears leather trousers and leopard print shoes on the day she triggers article 50. If she doesn't then the triggering will be rendered invalid.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:14
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I wonder what W, L, T and B stand for.
Wilted Lettuce Tomato and Bacon. Might not make a mockery of our democracy, but would make a sandwich.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:15
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That is onne of my main concerns, people starting court cases like this will only frustrate the process and make Brexit all the more difficult. I just don't think why they think they have the right to try and overturn a democratic decision, they claim to be doing in the name of democracy.

The courts shouldn't even be involved in this process to begin with, they are not elected so shouldn't have any say on this matter IMHO.
No uk government is above the laws of the uk, the courts dont work for the government they are part of the crown. NO government should ever be above the law, as its parliament that makes laws not the government.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:17
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No uk government is above the laws of the uk, the courts dont work for the government they are part of the crown. NO government should ever be above the law, as its parliament that makes laws not the government.
I never said government was above the law, however the Judiciary should not be getting involved in a democratic process.......they are appoointed to their positions for life. A50 and the rest can be thrashed out in parliament I can accept that, but going through the judicial review route is a sly way to delay and hinder Brexit.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:27
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If this micro management keeps up then we might as well have elected judges.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:34
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See i said straight after brexit result that us remainers had nothing to fear, they will just keep creating delays for a few years until this all dies down. We are staying in the EU whether brexiters like it or not.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:36
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See i said straight after brexit result that us remainers had nothing to fear, they will just keep creating delays for a few years until this all dies down. We are staying in the EU whether brexiters like it or not.
Dream on...
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:39
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It just means yet more taxpayer money will be used to counter the challenge.
The government always waste the publics money it makes no difference what they do it on. It's best if the money is wasted on something which slows down brexit. The government don't believe in brexit they are quite happy to waste all the effort and money on it.

Our system of government involves the value of production being continuously destroyed.

It's interesting that brexit has not been a vote for change the way trump has been. Trump is cancelling trade deals and turning america to a protectionist path. Brexit is all about trade deals with everyone and anyone. Brexit so far is talking about more globalisation and capitalism and no change of direction at all.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:42
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W***er laughing tw***ing bastards?
That doesn't even make sense. How embarrassing for you if that's the best you could come up with.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:44
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It just means yet more taxpayer money will be used to counter the challenge.
Which is preferable to all the taxpayer money that will be needed to prop up Britain after we leave the EU.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:44
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I expect it's connected to The Tony Blair Cult of Insurgents.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:44
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See i said straight after brexit result that the minority of the country had nothing to fear, they will just keep creating delays for a few years until this all dies down. We are staying in the EU whether the majority of the country like it or not.
Fixed your post.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:44
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I wonder what W, L, T and B stand for.

I can think of a few possibilities.
Democracy. That's all you need to know.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:47
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I never said government was above the law, however the Judiciary should not be getting involved in a democratic process.......they are appoointed to their positions for life. A50 and the rest can be thrashed out in parliament I can accept that, but going through the judicial review route is a sly way to delay and hinder Brexit.
And making sure the government acts with in the law is part of the democratic process. if the government is acting with in the law then there is nothing to worry about is there. You cannot have a government any government in the uk deciding we will do it this way if it does not abide by the law. Difficult for parliament to debate things when the government has said we are not going to tell you what our plans are
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:47
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Which is preferable to all the taxpayer money that will be needed to prop up Britain after we leave the EU.
You are making the rather large assumption that the challenges will stop Brexit.
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:03
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Not dreaming, the games have only just begun. Even if brexit wins one of these legal challenges wait until the negotiations begin and the British people see what compromises will be expected of them. You will soon see that no countries people will take losing money and privileges like ease of travel through europe for holidays or to settle down lightly.

Brexit is a delusional pipe dream that the Tories are brilliantly dangling in front of brexiters to win elections over Labour and you all keep falling for it lol. Already it will guarantee no brexit leaning person will trust Labour in 2020 or 2025 because they will fear Labour would push us back into the EU or EEA type situation. Tories are loving this foolishness and then in say ten years they can pull the plug and blame some other bogeyman for why it all went wrong.
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:14
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I fear lawyers are going to be like flies round a cow pat for the next ten years.
This is what happens when politicians don't think through the possible outcomes of their whims and prepare thoroughly for possible outcomes. Thrre was a 50/50 chance that the result would be "out."
Utter shambles.
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