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Would you consider a concessionary fare bus pass to be a benefit? |
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36 | 69.23% |
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16 | 30.77% |
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As the Concessioncard website states "The concession is now awarded in line with the pensionable age of woman, whether you are male or female.". https://concessioncard.net/
The concession. The disability aspect is administered by the local council. |
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I misread the question. I thought you were asking if we thought people on benefits should get a concessionary bus pass which I do. If people are sick or disabled they should be able to travel free. Many go to see hospital doctors, psychiatrists or whatever and should get a free bus pass. Also people on Job Seekers Allowance should get a free bus pass to look for work or to top up their education to help get a job. Do I think it is classed as being part of benefits, maybe, it depends how it would be funded.
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[unless it`s been recently changed] job seekers can get a bus pass [might be for half price fares, i cannot recall] after something like 6 months and some bus companies offer concessions for job seekers too.
[someone might find it useful]. "Jobcentre Plus Travel Discount Card This is provided to those unemployed claiming Jobseekers Allowance or Universal Credit for 3-9 months (18-24 year olds) or 3-12 months (over 25s). Other benefit recipients may receive a Jobcentre Plus Travel Discount Card from 3 months of their claim and if they are actively engaged with a Jobcentre Plus adviser. Cardholders are entitled to a 50% discount on selected rail tickets." That's not the same bus pass related to the Older Person's Bus Pass or the Disabled Person's Bus Pass. https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-elderly-person-bus-pass |
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There's a discount card available related to jobseeking.
"Jobcentre Plus Travel Discount Card This is provided to those unemployed claiming Jobseekers Allowance or Universal Credit for 3-9 months (18-24 year olds) or 3-12 months (over 25s). Other benefit recipients may receive a Jobcentre Plus Travel Discount Card from 3 months of their claim and if they are actively engaged with a Jobcentre Plus adviser. Cardholders are entitled to a 50% discount on selected rail tickets." That's not the same bus pass related to the Older Person's Bus Pass or the Disabled Person's Bus Pass. https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-elderly-person-bus-pass the dwp don`t really push that pass and they really ought, you can also get it if you`re on esa, is and incap. |
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I've got a Freedom Pass which is a bus pass, tube, railway, Docklands Light Railway, ..........it's for Greater London but apparently you can use it for buses in every town in the country
Shame I never go anywhere.............
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Shame I never go anywhere............. ![]() Why did you apply for it then? |
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Why should those over retirement age receive one for free, while those who are disabled should have to pay?
Either free for everyone that qualifies, or a nominal fee for all. |
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Why not?
Why did you apply for it then? I maybe go on public transport a couple of times a month...........other than that I walk everywhere for the exercise and haven't got much occasion to go outside of a mile or two from my flat |
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There is also a disabled concessionary bus pass, so they do qualify.
There are two types of concessionary bus fares – statutory concessions (i.e. those which local authorities must provide in accordance with national legislation) and non-statutory, discretionary concessions (i.e. those which local authorities can provide from their own funds if they so wish). The basic statutory concession in England provides for free bus travel for older and disabled people during off-peak times http://researchbriefings.files.parli...99/SN01499.pdf Quote:
where I live there are so few buses the only use for the card is to use it to scrape ice of your car windscreen.
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It's handy to have and it's free but I don't make much use of it
I maybe go on public transport a couple of times a month...........other than that I walk everywhere for the exercise and haven't got much occasion to go outside of a mile or two from my flat
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You could make an occasion to travel around the country with it
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I did say "either" for everyone or for everyone who qualifies for one. I thought that was clear.
. Which I read as: You think everyone should pay or those who qualify for a pass who are under retirement age. In lots of cases, many of those who are under retirement age, may be less able to get about than those who are retired. They may have far less income too. Those who attended special schools also qualify for the same pass. Those who have qualified for one would have been assessed by medical professionals, if they didn't qualify automatically by receiving enhanced mobility/pip allowances. |
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Travel passes are paid for by the local authority. I don't know enough about the budgets to know if anything is specifically allocated to cover it but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. Central government is pretty disingenuous when it comes to identifying what money is required where.
For example, I have a disabled pass and I live in Leicester City, and I get free bus travel at all times, not just after 9.30. Senior Citizens get half fare before 9.30. I can also use my pass on local trains for free. Someone with exactly the same pass who lives outside the city boundary, would not have those additions and can only use their pass after 9.30am, they have to pay full fare before then. Passes for people on Jobseekers are only available in Leicester City or Rutland. Leicestershire doesn't offer such a scheme |
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Those who attended special schools also qualify for the same pass.
Those who have qualified for one would have been assessed by medical professionals, if they didn't qualify automatically by receiving enhanced mobility/pip allowances. I went to a special school, but only became eligible for a pass earlier this year when I was awarded standard rate of the mobility component of PIP.This also enabled me to get a blue badge |
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said someone who`s never waited for a stagecoach bus.
![]() I wonder how long it would take to travel the country by bus/Freedom pass as it is valid nationwide.Makes me wonder if anyone has actually done it. |
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Oh I have many a time
I wonder how long it would take to travel the country by bus/Freedom pass as it is valid nationwide.Makes me wonder if anyone has actually done it. i`ve toyed with the idea, i regularly travel [for about 10 - 12 hours door to door ] between cambs and berks.i think some people did it years ago. edit: Quote:
Britain by bus pass: Pensioners travel from Scottish border to Land's End on 33 buses Quote:
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Depending on where you are, going to a special school does not automatically qualify you. From my pension experience, Leicester City's form asked if you went to a special school, Leicestershire's does not.
I went to a special school, but only became eligible for a pass earlier this year when I was awarded standard rate of the mobility component of PIP.This also enabled me to get a blue badge Was you not eligible for the mobility component before? Or wasn't you aware of it? Maybe its health/care workers that sometimes tell people they are able to claim for these things that they were unaware of before, but could have received many years ago. Parents often claim for their children, then the children would then automatically carry on receiving the same when they reach 18. |
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only valid in england, as i discovered in wales this summer though i think you can use the english pass in scotland and vice versa.
i`ve toyed with the idea, i regularly travel [for about 10 - 12 hours door to door ] between cambs and berks.i think some people did it years ago. edit: ![]() I usually only go for short bus journeys of a few stops, I prefer the trains. I cant stand coach journeys. Buses seem to take forever. The journey seems much quicker if you have company though. One underground stop is many bus stops
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There is also a disabled concessionary bus pass, so they do qualify.
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I've got a Freedom Pass which is a bus pass, tube, railway, Docklands Light Railway, ..........it's for Greater London but apparently you can use it for buses in every town in the country
Shame I never go anywhere............. ![]() Quote:
You said: A nominal charge for either everyone or for those who qualifies for one who are under retirement age.
Which I read as: You think everyone should pay or those who qualify for a pass who are under retirement age. In lots of cases, many of those who are under retirement age, may be less able to get about than those who are retired. They may have far less income too. Those who attended special schools also qualify for the same pass. Those who have qualified for one would have been assessed by medical professionals, if they didn't qualify automatically by receiving enhanced mobility/pip allowances. |
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In my mind any service that is funded by the tax payer in anyway and subsequent cheaper/ money off it's a benefit, a concession would come from shareholder's who are totally independent from the public purse.
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