Was very well done. The guy is suffering big time even though he has brought almost all of it on himself.
EE - The scene with Lee in the car screaming
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I thought it was very good. It's clear that Lee feels trapped and as if the walls are closing in on him, in a sense. The way the scene was filmed demonstrated that really well. I love when EE tries something a bit different with a scene's direction. Dot's scene the other night, when she was remembering her old friends' voices, was very touching as well.
I agree.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.
I really liked the symbolism of his muffled howl in the car. The poor guy. His scenes are making EE watchable again for me.
Originally Posted by PorkchopExpress:
“Was very well done. The guy is suffering big time even though he has brought almost all of it on himself.”
“Was very well done. The guy is suffering big time even though he has brought almost all of it on himself.”
Absolutely. Just posted this to another thread.
I have to say that in the absolute depths of depression I have been in a similar situation and the last thing on my mind was getting a new job. Obviously I wasn't working with a bunch of criminals BUT it was a hugely stressful job and my boss was a c**t. However, I was in such a state that I couldn't see beyond getting through the next hour let alone planning for my future.
That scene at the end of last night's ep really got to me and was brilliantly played by the actor. Him sitting in his car as the realisation of what his only option is in his mind was so realistic.
I remember one day finishing work early and thinking "brilliant, I'll go and meet a friend or something." However, I stood there in my office for a good ten minutes and was an absolute blank - there was nothing going on in my head except "kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself." I went straight to a pub and got ossified and then sat at the top of a cliff near home trying to get the nerve up to jump. That failed so I went home, collected a massive bag of anti depressants, mood stabilisers, anti psychotics, xanax and pain killers and a bottle of gin, went back to the cliff, starting horsing the drugs and drink down me and eventually rolled off the cliff. However, someone saw me do it, it was high tide and the life boat was literally around the cove so I was rescued and ended up in a psychiatric ward for a few months. And that's only three years ago!
Anyway - all this came to my mind during Lee's silent final scene. He is literally at a loss and there is only one way out. Powerful stuff, brilliant acting all 'round, so truthful.
Self-therapy over....
Danny did a fabulous job last night. That scene in the car, his realisation that the warden thought he was going to hit her, his attempt to stand up to Oz, to find the man he was, just for a moment, only to sink back into utter hopelessness and despair. His yo-yoing between anger and despair kept me on the edge of my seat....which would dominate by the end of the episode. Even now I can't predict the outcome.
Originally Posted by Keibro:
“I agree.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.”
“I agree.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.”
Originally Posted by absalomabsalom:
“Absolutely. Just posted this to another thread.
I have to say that in the absolute depths of depression I have been in a similar situation and the last thing on my mind was getting a new job. Obviously I wasn't working with a bunch of criminals BUT it was a hugely stressful job and my boss was a c**t. However, I was in such a state that I couldn't see beyond getting through the next hour let alone planning for my future.
That scene at the end of last night's ep really got to me and was brilliantly played by the actor. Him sitting in his car as the realisation of what his only option is in his mind was so realistic.
I remember one day finishing work early and thinking "brilliant, I'll go and meet a friend or something." However, I stood there in my office for a good ten minutes and was an absolute blank - there was nothing going on in my head except "kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself." I went straight to a pub and got ossified and then sat at the top of a cliff near home trying to get the nerve up to jump. That failed so I went home, collected a massive bag of anti depressants, mood stabilisers, anti psychotics, xanax and pain killers and a bottle of gin, went back to the cliff, starting horsing the drugs and drink down me and eventually rolled off the cliff. However, someone saw me do it, it was high tide and the life boat was literally around the cove so I was rescued and ended up in a psychiatric ward for a few months. And that's only three years ago!
Anyway - all this came to my mind during Lee's silent final scene. He is literally at a loss and there is only one way out. Powerful stuff, brilliant acting all 'round, so truthful.
Self-therapy over....”
“Absolutely. Just posted this to another thread.
I have to say that in the absolute depths of depression I have been in a similar situation and the last thing on my mind was getting a new job. Obviously I wasn't working with a bunch of criminals BUT it was a hugely stressful job and my boss was a c**t. However, I was in such a state that I couldn't see beyond getting through the next hour let alone planning for my future.
That scene at the end of last night's ep really got to me and was brilliantly played by the actor. Him sitting in his car as the realisation of what his only option is in his mind was so realistic.
I remember one day finishing work early and thinking "brilliant, I'll go and meet a friend or something." However, I stood there in my office for a good ten minutes and was an absolute blank - there was nothing going on in my head except "kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself." I went straight to a pub and got ossified and then sat at the top of a cliff near home trying to get the nerve up to jump. That failed so I went home, collected a massive bag of anti depressants, mood stabilisers, anti psychotics, xanax and pain killers and a bottle of gin, went back to the cliff, starting horsing the drugs and drink down me and eventually rolled off the cliff. However, someone saw me do it, it was high tide and the life boat was literally around the cove so I was rescued and ended up in a psychiatric ward for a few months. And that's only three years ago!
Anyway - all this came to my mind during Lee's silent final scene. He is literally at a loss and there is only one way out. Powerful stuff, brilliant acting all 'round, so truthful.
Self-therapy over....”
It's encouraging to hear that EE's depiction of Lee's depression/anxiety is being done so well and, just to say, how brave of you both to say so
Both of you highlight the continuing need for these storylines to be shown, especially concerning depression in men. Even the simple things included in Lee's story, his boss' "Man up!" comment and the 2017: Time to be a Man poster, are very powerful and hammer home the huge stigma that persists around men, the concept of masculinity and depression.
This is story-telling at its best, as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind the odd bit of sensationalism and comedy, but real issues that affect real people is what should be at the heart of the soaps.
Originally Posted by absalomabsalom:
“Absolutely. Just posted this to another thread.
I have to say that in the absolute depths of depression I have been in a similar situation and the last thing on my mind was getting a new job. Obviously I wasn't working with a bunch of criminals BUT it was a hugely stressful job and my boss was a c**t. However, I was in such a state that I couldn't see beyond getting through the next hour let alone planning for my future.
That scene at the end of last night's ep really got to me and was brilliantly played by the actor. Him sitting in his car as the realisation of what his only option is in his mind was so realistic.
I remember one day finishing work early and thinking "brilliant, I'll go and meet a friend or something." However, I stood there in my office for a good ten minutes and was an absolute blank - there was nothing going on in my head except "kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself." I went straight to a pub and got ossified and then sat at the top of a cliff near home trying to get the nerve up to jump. That failed so I went home, collected a massive bag of anti depressants, mood stabilisers, anti psychotics, xanax and pain killers and a bottle of gin, went back to the cliff, starting horsing the drugs and drink down me and eventually rolled off the cliff. However, someone saw me do it, it was high tide and the life boat was literally around the cove so I was rescued and ended up in a psychiatric ward for a few months. And that's only three years ago!
Anyway - all this came to my mind during Lee's silent final scene. He is literally at a loss and there is only one way out. Powerful stuff, brilliant acting all 'round, so truthful.
Self-therapy over....”
“Absolutely. Just posted this to another thread.
I have to say that in the absolute depths of depression I have been in a similar situation and the last thing on my mind was getting a new job. Obviously I wasn't working with a bunch of criminals BUT it was a hugely stressful job and my boss was a c**t. However, I was in such a state that I couldn't see beyond getting through the next hour let alone planning for my future.
That scene at the end of last night's ep really got to me and was brilliantly played by the actor. Him sitting in his car as the realisation of what his only option is in his mind was so realistic.
I remember one day finishing work early and thinking "brilliant, I'll go and meet a friend or something." However, I stood there in my office for a good ten minutes and was an absolute blank - there was nothing going on in my head except "kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself." I went straight to a pub and got ossified and then sat at the top of a cliff near home trying to get the nerve up to jump. That failed so I went home, collected a massive bag of anti depressants, mood stabilisers, anti psychotics, xanax and pain killers and a bottle of gin, went back to the cliff, starting horsing the drugs and drink down me and eventually rolled off the cliff. However, someone saw me do it, it was high tide and the life boat was literally around the cove so I was rescued and ended up in a psychiatric ward for a few months. And that's only three years ago!
Anyway - all this came to my mind during Lee's silent final scene. He is literally at a loss and there is only one way out. Powerful stuff, brilliant acting all 'round, so truthful.
Self-therapy over....”
Wow,thank you so much for sharing 🤗
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“Wow,thank you so much for sharing 🤗”
“Wow,thank you so much for sharing 🤗”
You're welcome
It's all been a bit to the fore this week what with Christmas and all. Last night's EE was actually helpful for me...
Originally Posted by Keibro:
“I agree.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.”
“I agree.
The way the camera stayed on him for such a long time, as he began to contemplate was excellent. I thought Danny did a great job last night. I also have to commend EastEnders for their handling of this story. It's not an easy watch. I see elements of myself in Lee from two years ago and at times I've been quite emotional watching him.
I hope there's a positive outcome to the story but from last night, this is the darkness before the dawn. Very well done Danny, EastEnders and the Samaritans who do excellent work.”
Sadly all too often the darkness and despair goes to pitch black.
This is the best EE storyline for some time as we have no idea what the outcome will be - everyone knew that the The King of Philth would be getting a new liver so there was no tension at all watching him turn into Grandpa Simpson.
Lee is different.
May I just add that there are some very brave posts on this thread.
In the end you have to try and believe there is hope it's all some people have.
Amazing performance from Danny boy ,I had a break down very similar to he's years ago watching him in the car last night was me ,I had tears rolling down my face watching this ,that is what eastenders does very well ,so life like ,I couldn't sleep as I kept thinking of lee yes I know it's not real life but this storyline was me ,I really hope he don't kill himself ,and he should win some soap awards for the way he has made this so believable,well done
The poor fella... I would have turned round to Whitney long ago and told her to get off my back.. She's to blame with her never ending spending....
I'm finding it hard to sympathise with Lee considering he won't do anything to change his situation. Whitney gave him the opportunity to quit his job the other day but he he didn't take it.
Originally Posted by David166:
“The poor fella... I would have turned round to Whitney long ago and told her to get off my back.. She's to blame with her never ending spending....”
“The poor fella... I would have turned round to Whitney long ago and told her to get off my back.. She's to blame with her never ending spending....”
She thought he was earning a lot. She isn't to blame for Lee's lies.
If you'd asked me to comment on Danny Boy Hatchard's acting skills a year or so back, I'd have said he was a complete talent-vacuum. Talk about learning on the job; he's going to leave EE a formidable actor, and I hope his career takes off from here.
Having had the odd battle with depression, I'll say this to everyone questioning why he doesn't get himself out of this - short answer is he can't.
I'd give myself a high five if I could even make a cup of tea, let alone work.
Having had the odd battle with depression, I'll say this to everyone questioning why he doesn't get himself out of this - short answer is he can't.
I'd give myself a high five if I could even make a cup of tea, let alone work.
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