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Old 31-12-2016, 09:13
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Always think this is worth discussing

Wrote this a couple of weeks ago when Paddy was getting slapped and punched all over the place for the lolz.

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To be fair, I don't think that's confined to female on male violence. Admittedly going back a bit, I remember when Paddy's affair with Viv came out he got punched by Bob and Zak in quick succession and that got played for laughs too.
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Old 31-12-2016, 09:28
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I think it's a bit silly complaining about one form of violence when so much violence in general is ignored, excused or cheered.

If soaps are going to be social justice seekers, then be so. But that means seeking justice for all victims of violence, even when they're characters we don't like.

So Cain Dingle, Robert Sugden and Ross Barton should all be doing time right now...
True. All forms of violence gets excused in soaps. I guess this particular issue with female to male is it being played for laughs more than other forms, but yes, essentially everyone's a criminal in soaps.
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Old 31-12-2016, 10:16
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Better to just ignore him and walk away, unless the creep is actually using physical force.
Indeed, physical violence is never justified other than in self defence.
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Old 31-12-2016, 12:38
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I think it's a bit silly complaining about one form of violence when so much violence in general is ignored, excused or cheered.

If soaps are going to be social justice seekers, then be so. But that means seeking justice for all victims of violence, even when they're characters we don't like.

So Cain Dingle, Robert Sugden and Ross Barton should all be doing time right now...
To be fair Robert is hardly in Cain and Ross's league. I know he killed someone but it was an accident. He is usually on the receiving end of violence.

I agree with your sentiment though as if Emmerdale really was to make sure all violent criminals paid the price then the cast would be very much diminished.

To be fair, I don't think that's confined to female on male violence. Admittedly going back a bit, I remember when Paddy's affair with Viv came out he got punched by Bob and Zak in quick succession and that got played for laughs too.
Yes you're right. It's not so much about female violence on male being casual and played for laughs as much as some characters are considered comedy characters and therefore them getting hit is funny whoever hits them.

In fact the only time comedy character Paddy was thumped and it wasn't played for laughs was when his son did it and Aaron of course got off scot-free with that
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:17
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To be fair Robert is hardly in Cain and Ross's league. I know he killed someone but it was an accident. He is usually on the receiving end of violence.

I agree with your sentiment though as if Emmerdale really was to make sure all violent criminals paid the price then the cast would be very much diminished.



Yes you're right. It's not so much about female violence on male being casual and played for laughs as much as some characters are considered comedy characters and therefore them getting hit is funny whoever hits them.

In fact the only time comedy character Paddy was thumped and it wasn't played for laughs was when his son did it and Aaron of course got off scot-free with that
Nu Robert isn't violent. The Robert we had before Chrissie dumped him and he discovered his ' true love' WAS. That' s why such a dramatic turnaround over the course of a few months is highly unbelievable.

There is way too much crime and violence in ED in general though - it seems to be everyone's default setting. There' s always going to be one or two hotheads but they' re the majority in Emmerdale.

It shouldn't be played for laughs either, although we might be secretly cheering the puncher
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:23
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Saying that are the soaps really that much different from staged wrestling matches, which are more for entertainment than sport? People enjoy watching violence which they know isn't for real. Heck, some enjoy watching the real thing!
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:25
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Nu Robert isn't violent. The Robert we had before Chrissie dumped him and he discovered his ' true love' WAS. That' s why such a dramatic turnaround over the course of a few months is highly unbelievable.

There is way too much crime and violence in ED in general though - it seems to be everyone's default setting. There' s always going to be one or two hotheads but they' re the majority in Emmerdale.

It shouldn't be played for laughs either, although we might be secretly cheering the puncher
I was thinking more about physically kidnapping and beating people up violence, even the Lodge was a bit tame compared to Cain in that he only managed to shoot someone accidentally

However the overall sentiment is correct IE people on Emmerdale in particular getting away with murder. I'm not too fussed about it myself as it is a soap and a flight of fancy plus we'd have hardly anyone left if they all had to pay a price for their crimes and we'd certainly have a lot less interesting characters.
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:35
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I was thinking more about physically kidnapping and beating people up violence, even the Lodge was a bit tame compared to Cain in that he only managed to shoot someone accidentally

However the overall sentiment is correct IE people on Emmerdale in particular getting away with murder. I'm not too fussed about it myself as it is a soap and a flight of fancy plus we'd have hardly anyone left if they all had to pay a price for their crimes and we'd certainly have a lot less interesting characters.
No' my fault the new villains are all wusses and useless at being criminals!!+ remember Cain had set up the shooting, and she was wearing a vest!

I agree though, I don't really care who gets away with it. It's s not a morality tale! I don't like it being done for humour though, and I do wish that it wasn't the go-to for the majority of characters as it seems to be. Let's have some of them behave with some dignity!
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:45
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No' my fault the new villains are all wusses and useless at being criminals!!+ remember Cain had set up the shooting, and she was wearing a vest!

I agree though, I don't really care who gets away with it. It's s not a morality tale! I don't like it being done for humour though, and I do wish that it wasn't the go-to for the majority of characters as it seems to be. Let's have some of them behave with some dignity!
I agree with this and what really winds me up is how rarely violent crimes are actually reported to the police and if someone ever dares to do so they are more or less shunned by the village. Still like you say it isn't a morality tale and must not be taken serioulsy at all
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:50
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I agree with this and what really winds me up is how rarely violent crimes are actually reported to the police and if someone ever dares to do so they are more or less shunned by the village. Still like you say it isn't a morality tale and must not be taken serioulsy at all
Imagine ifpoor PC Swirling moved into the village, as I would like. He'd have to turn so many blind eyes his head would fall off Donna didn' t have the same problem, as being married to a Dingle she'd had lots of practice!
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:05
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Imagine ifpoor PC Swirling moved into the village, as I would like. He'd have to turn so many blind eyes his head would fall off Donna didn' t have the same problem, as being married to a Dingle she'd had lots of practice!
I love P C Swirling
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