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Old 30-12-2016, 13:51
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One of the twitter posters quoted by the DS article linked in the original post is now being "shamed" and "slammed" himself. He maintains that his post was intended sarcastically.

Sigh. When did things posted on Twitter become news?
A long time ago.
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Old 30-12-2016, 13:52
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Well the DS bingo card certainly filled up quickly.
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Old 30-12-2016, 13:55
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Have they had a go at Billy Dee Williams yet for saying "You look absolutely beautiful. You truly belong here with us among the clouds." ?
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Old 30-12-2016, 13:57
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I think we're going to hit a point very few people will comment on things so you'll simply never hear from them anymore...
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:05
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Nothing wrong with it and I'm annoyed he caved.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:05
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Ridiculous in your eyes. Never more apt and appropriate in mine. I was very slow to adopt use of the term but do so now because it is seemingly more fitting than ever.

In just one week we've had this, the Richard Hammond ice cream scandal and some other piece of bull floating around about a Christmas photo of a family that was "colourist" due to their seating positions. People so desperate to see what they want to see to further the PC cause.



I don't go anywhere near Tw4tter. My problem is that these things quickly permeate from their into the mainstream press, and thus the process of brainwashing of the impressionable and the snowflakes, telling them what to feel offended about, continues...
"Colourist"? - what the chuff does that even mean?

As for seating positions, might it not be down to who the individuals want to sit with?
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:09
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Michael Parkinson in recent interview described Mohammad Ali as beautiful. Was he being sexist?
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:11
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""When I was a young man, Carrie Fisher she was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen. She turned out to be bright and witty as well," he wrote."
I find it incredibly sad that people are offended by this. I think it was a wonderful compliment. That from the very beginning he knew she was beautiful but then he came to see that she was also an intelligent and witty woman.

Isn't this what we want, as women? For our female celebrities and role models not to just be seen for their looks, but for their minds and wit as well? She was very beautiful, that is a fact. While I would find it a shame for a tribute to focus solely on her looks when she was so much more, I see nothing wrong with mentioning the fact that, on first glance and without knowing more, she was simply beautiful.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:20
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Do the people who describe such comments as sexist believe we should deny people have a physical aspect?
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:24
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He should have kept it up. We need to fight back when thing's get as ridiculous as this.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:25
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"Colourist"? - what the chuff does that even mean?

As for seating positions, might it not be down to who the individuals want to sit with?
Just been reading about that I was curious myself.

Apparently there's a black American comedian, actor and male model called Lance Gross. He shared a photo on twitter that showed 4 male/female couples sitting together smiling and one woman, slightly off to the side looking a bit grumpy. Everyone in the picture is an African American.

The woman who is sitting on her own, and not part of a couple has the darkest skin tone of the women in the picture. Some people noticed that and had a bit of a problem with it, saying it was exclusionary to darker skinned black women, that the men are showing favouritism to lighter skinned black women and things like that. Some people stated they would boycott his films in the future.

He's saying that skin colour had nothing to do with it and that as the only single person in the picture she was looking grumpy as a joke, playing the role of the disgruntled singleton and they'd posed in a similar way at previous Christmases.

So "colourism" would be discrimination of someone based on their particular shade of skin within a race rather than the race itself, I think.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:29
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Do the people who describe such comments as sexist believe we should deny people have a physical aspect?
Some people are total idiots. Generally beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Why can't people just leave it alone, if someone decides that another human being is beautiful. So what just let them say it.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:36
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I think people are just addicted to outrage!

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Old 30-12-2016, 14:43
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I get the point that it's probably overblown and a case of the outraged being outraged at The Outraged Two but he did feel the need to delete which is a shame. People are stupid. He said nothing wrong. Do some of these rights ons realise that they are doing 'their cause' - people who really are discrimnated against - such a disservice. They need to stop playing Grown Ups on the Internet.

"Colourist"? - what the chuff does that even mean?
I used to have one of those before I had kids who bled me dry. Now I just have the one woman who washes, cuts, dries, styles AND colours my hair for about £2.50. There's a direct correlation between my disposable income and how many people are involved in doing my hair.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:57
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You can always tell a Daily Mail reader from their use of the phrase 'right on' despite the fact that nobody has used that since 1976.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:01
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You can always tell a Daily Mail reader from their use of the phrase 'right on' despite the fact that nobody has used that since 1976.
No you can't because I'm not, smart arse.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:02
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Just been reading about that I was curious myself.

Apparently there's a black American comedian, actor and male model called Lance Gross. He shared a photo on twitter that showed 4 male/female couples sitting together smiling and one woman, slightly off to the side looking a bit grumpy. Everyone in the picture is an African American.

The woman who is sitting on her own, and not part of a couple has the darkest skin tone of the women in the picture. Some people noticed that and had a bit of a problem with it, saying it was exclusionary to darker skinned black women, that the men are showing favouritism to lighter skinned black women and things like that. Some people stated they would boycott his films in the future.

He's saying that skin colour had nothing to do with it and that as the only single person in the picture she was looking grumpy as a joke, playing the role of the disgruntled singleton and they'd posed in a similar way at previous Christmases.

So "colourism" would be discrimination of someone based on their particular shade of skin within a race rather than the race itself, I think.
The colourism (or whatever it's called) issue is a big thing in some African and South American countries, also Japan. Probably elsewhere too, but those are the ones I'm familiar with. The market for skin lighteners is huge in those parts of the world, as are cosmetic surgery procedures to remove certain ethnic features. A lot of people have died, become disfiguring or seriously ill because some of those skin lightening products contained toxic ingredients.

We aren't immune to it here, of course, though here it's darkening skin rather than lightening it.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:49
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Does anyone doubt that beauty was part of what made her famous and popular? And is there anything wrong with that?
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:50
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I find it incredibly sad that people are offended by this. I think it was a wonderful compliment. That from the very beginning he knew she was beautiful but then he came to see that she was also an intelligent and witty woman.

Isn't this what we want, as women? For our female celebrities and role models not to just be seen for their looks, but for their minds and wit as well? She was very beautiful, that is a fact. While I would find it a shame for a tribute to focus solely on her looks when she was so much more, I see nothing wrong with mentioning the fact that, on first glance and without knowing more, she was simply beautiful.
Nicely put - yes I agree with you absolutely.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:10
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lucky he didn't call her 'ugly'
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:11
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I don't go anywhere near Tw4tter. My problem is that these things quickly permeate from their into the mainstream press, and thus the process of brainwashing of the impressionable and the snowflakes, telling them what to feel offended about, continues...
Well as far as I can see, no-one in this thread is offended by his tweet. Don't criticise tweets being used as news if you are happy for them to be the subject of threads - either they are important enough to discuss or they're not. Just throwing around cliches does not a discussion make.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:14
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Nicely put - yes I agree with you absolutely.
Seconded.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:19
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Does anyone doubt that beauty was part of what made her famous and popular? And is there anything wrong with that?
how do we know if Hattie Jaques had got the role then Princess Leia wouldn't have been even more iconic ?
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:22
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how do we know if Hattie Jaques had got the role then Princess Leia wouldn't have been even more iconic ?
She was beautiful as well, though.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:26
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She was beautiful as well, though.
I never judged
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