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Old 30-12-2016, 17:00
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Glad it wasn't edited out to please the snowflake brigade.
The irony here is that was a humorous term often used by Bill in Love Thy Neighbour for his white neighbour!

Michael Redgrave gave a brilliant performance as the driven eccentric Barnes Wallis in The Dam Busters.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:01
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I think you have the wrong paper there, it should be the Guardianista.
I think you don't know what you are talking about. It is the Daily Mail that likes to get outraged because a bare arse was shown on the BBC at 21.05.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:03
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You can't airbrush history and shouldn't even try!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(dog)

My goodness! Even DS censors the name and deforms the link so that it doesn't work.

(It removes the " ) " )
It's all very strange.

Agatha Christie wrote a well known novel "Ten Little N*****s". It's openly on sale at Amazon and copies are often on ebay.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:06
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It's all very strange.

Agatha Christie wrote a well known childrens book "Ten Little N*****s". It's openly on sale at Amazon and copies are often on ebay.
...it wasn't a children's book! In many ways it prefigured the modern slasher movie.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:08
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If its any help I watched this fairly recently, don't remember which channel it was but there was a silent blip when the dog's name was used .
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:08
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...it wasn't a children's book! In many ways it prefigured the modern slasher movie.
Yes just edited! It was Christies best selling book with over 100 million copies sold.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:08
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You can't airbrush history and shouldn't even try!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(dog)

My goodness! Even DS censors the name and deforms the link so that it doesn't work.

(It removes the " ) " )
You can use a URL shortener then it doesn't include the name that DS censors

http://bit.ly/1EuPkg3
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:10
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Nobody outraged yet?
How disappointing for the OP.
Wonder if they are outraged that nobody is outraged.
Great film BTW
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:12
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I think the Agatha Christie book's a slightly different case, though... for starters it wasn't based on an actual real place (the island on which the book is set, which had the same name as Gibson's faithful hound) so changing it wasn't really messing with history, and also it did kind of perpetuate the rhyme which gave the book its title and which already existed in many, many far less problematic versions.

Whoever decided to rename it "Ten Little Indians", however, clearly hadn't really thought ahead. It's now published as "And Then There Were None", and it really is a cracking read, harmed not a jot by the removal of a word which is actually entirely irrelevant to the plot or meaning of the text.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:15
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The amount of threads we've had on this very subject I could almost suspect some people only ever watch the movie in the hope of it getting cut so they can get cross.
I imagine them sat there all tense and excited, like a World Cup penalty kick off... and when the ****** finally gets shouted they leap cheering from their armchairs beer and popcorn flying everywhere...

... a smililar sensation to when the albatross in Watership Down said piss when we read it in 4th junior school.

It's an alright film... the CGI is a bit dated.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:16
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I think the Agatha Christie book's a slightly different case, though... for starters it wasn't based on an actual real place (the island on which the book is set, which had the same name as Gibson's faithful hound) so changing it wasn't really messing with history, and also it did kind of perpetuate the rhyme which gave the book its title and which already existed in many, many far less problematic versions.

Whoever decided to rename it "Ten Little Indians", however, clearly hadn't really thought ahead. It's now published as "And Then There Were None", and it really is a cracking read, harmed not a jot by the removal of a word which is actually entirely irrelevant to the plot or meaning of the text.
They cut all the Fanny out of The Faraway Tree as well... a perfectly good word.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:18
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Never be rude to a ...... ****BOOOM***
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:18
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Funny enough the N word was rarely used where I grew up (I was born 1958 ) in London.
It was always the W word Never even heard the N word here back in the day. ( not saying it was never used , only I never heard it (only old ladies asking for N brown wool) and had many black friends at that time who say the same now ) . Been to America a fair number of times and have heard it a lot there over the years
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:21
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They cut all the Fanny out of The Faraway Tree as well... a perfectly good word.
Yes Faraway renamed Dick and Fanny to Rick and Frannie, but Famous Five did keep Dick and Aunty Fanny but changed circus character Nobby to Ned. Apparently they have tried to keep the updated versions gender neutral and stopped Anne playing with dolls and she instead plays with teddy bears and for some reason cut out her receiving a doll as a present, is it wrong to suggest a girl may play with a doll ?

Funny enough the N word was rarely used where I grew up (I was born 1958 ) in London.
It was always the W word Never even heard the N word here back in the day. ( not saying it was never used , only I never heard it, and had many black friends at that time who say the same now ) . Been to America a fair number of times and have heard it a lot there over the years
Same here and I didn't grow up in London, heard it occasionally and that tended to be older people you heard using it as a colour description for clothing N**** Brown which thankfully they do not anymore . The most I have ever heard it is on TV used in historic context in dramas about slavery periods or racist characters
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:22
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I think you don't know what you are talking about. It is the Daily Mail that likes to get outraged because a bare arse was shown on the BBC at 21.05.
Yet it's also the DM that shows covert photos of underage children in swimsuits on a regular basis. They perve over 'celebrities' in swimsuits constantly, I believe they are the paper that also does the crotch watch?
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:26
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You can't airbrush history and shouldn't even try!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(dog)

My goodness! Even DS censors the name and deforms the link so that it doesn't work.

(It removes the " ) " )
interesting. i'll bet this forum doesnt star out anti white or jewish slurs
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:28
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There must be a term for people who overuse the term "snowflake".

Oh, there is. "Dense".
Or "unconscious"?
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:33
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I think the Agatha Christie book's a slightly different case, though... for starters it wasn't based on an actual real place (the island on which the book is set, which had the same name as Gibson's faithful hound) so changing it wasn't really messing with history, and also it did kind of perpetuate the rhyme which gave the book its title and which already existed in many, many far less problematic versions.

Whoever decided to rename it "Ten Little Indians", however, clearly hadn't really thought ahead. It's now published as "And Then There Were None", and it really is a cracking read, harmed not a jot by the removal of a word which is actually entirely irrelevant to the plot or meaning of the text.
I know the one i was mixing it with now which was indeed a series of childrens books written by Helen Bannerman. I'm not allowed to write the title () but the link here to the author tells you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Bannerman

Like the other book, that's still sold on Amazon and ebay but under it's original title which hasn't been messed around with.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:35
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Didn't loads of cats and dogs used to be called Blacky or Blackie too?
Gibson was an officer and a gentleman, so used the Latin version of 'Blacky'. Those Italians weren't very PC I'm afraid..
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:37
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I imagine them sat there all tense and excited, like a World Cup penalty kick off... and when the ****** finally gets shouted they leap cheering from their armchairs beer and popcorn flying everywhere...

... a smililar sensation to when the albatross in Watership Down said piss when we read it in 4th junior school.

It's an alright film... the CGI is a bit dated.
Albatross? It was only a herring gull! Mind you, they are pretty big.

We had a cat called Blackie, 35 years ago. No reference to any human beings at all, and I very much doubt any black people would take offence. Apart from that white girl from Goldsmiths London of course. Long live the true version of The Dam Busters. Fab film, amazing mission, though in fact the achievement was eclipsed by the squadron's later work. Gibson famously says 'I thought it would be the Tirpitz' in the film. 18 months later, it was, with Leonard Cheshire in charge. The man who later founded the hospice group. He must be the only VC who's done that.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:50
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Albatross? It was only a herring gull! Mind you, they are pretty big.
Who wants to fact check a happy memory... they're roughly shaped the same
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:55
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Too right, it wasn't an Australian dog.


They shouldn't alter history to suit the 'offended' either.
Films based on historical fact change history all the time. The name of the dog really isn't important.
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Old 30-12-2016, 17:58
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Funny enough the N word was rarely used where I grew up (I was born 1958 ) in London.
It was always the W word Never even heard the N word here back in the day. ( not saying it was never used , only I never heard it (only old ladies asking for N brown wool) and had many black friends at that time who say the same now ) . Been to America a fair number of times and have heard it a lot there over the years

In the early 50s the word used by my Aunt who lived in Kentish Town was "Darkie" which is why she supported Arsenal rather than Tottenham
I'm sure I have seen a version of this film where the dog's name was bleeped out
Surprised all those who applaud the conviction and imprisonment of Sgt Alexander Blackman aren't jumping up and down demanding the same for Barnes Wallis, Guy Gibson, and all the others involved in this bombing
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:00
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Surprised all those who applaud the conviction and imprisonment of Sgt Alexander Blackman aren't jumping up and down demanding the same for Barnes Wallis, Guy Gibson, and all the others involved in this bombing
Surely you mean 'disappointed'?
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:02
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Our neighbours in the 1970's had a black Labrador called 'Roots'.
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