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Films based on historical fact change history all the time. The name of the dog really isn't important.
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Are we still waiting for the first complaint?
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Yet you took the time to find and post a link with regards to name change.
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Are we still waiting for the first complaint?
...I imagine there was more interest in the days we only had four channels. |
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Are you working for the Daily Mail? I don't think anybody ever has complained about the name of that dog. Why? Because it's historical - people know that's what it was called and it's a SIXTY YEAR OLD FILM ANYWAY.
If there's a snowflake here it's the people who are just itching to start an argument because they perceive people will be offended by something (which they aren't). |
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Who wants to fact check a happy memory... they're roughly shaped the same
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I think the Agatha Christie book's a slightly different case, though... for starters it wasn't based on an actual real place (the island on which the book is set, which had the same name as Gibson's faithful hound) so changing it wasn't really messing with history, and also it did kind of perpetuate the rhyme which gave the book its title and which already existed in many, many far less problematic versions.
Whoever decided to rename it "Ten Little Indians", however, clearly hadn't really thought ahead. It's now published as "And Then There Were None", and it really is a cracking read, harmed not a jot by the removal of a word which is actually entirely irrelevant to the plot or meaning of the text. Personally, I prefer The Murder of Roger Ackroyd but that wasn't what we were on about!
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Is this the new name for the "PC brigade"?
![]() Interesting idea this thread - anticipating complaints that no one is making! Quote:
Ironically, it appears to have been longer than it took for someone to complain about (the yet to appear) people complaining about the name of Guy Gibson's dog.
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Nobody outraged yet?
How disappointing for the OP. Wonder if they are outraged that nobody is outraged. Great film BTW |
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Yet you took the time to find and post a link with regards to name change.
Quite. It's surprising how important unimportant things become sometimes... depending on your viewpoint of course.
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don't see why they should rename it Digger if that is not what the dog was called. Django Unchained used the N word alot and don't remember any uproar about that ( and that word was utter 110 times according to an article i read online.)
I don't like the word or would use the word but sadly in the past it was frequently used. |
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Personally, I prefer The Murder of Roger Ackroyd but that wasn't what we were on about!
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I don't mind them changing the name in a remake that much, but they shouldn't censor the original.
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I thought the dog looked slightly embarrassed, but maybe I'm just projecting...
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Quite. It's surprising how important unimportant things become sometimes... depending on your viewpoint of course.
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I thought the dog looked slightly embarrassed, but maybe I'm just projecting...
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I thought the dog looked slightly embarrassed, but maybe I'm just projecting...
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Yeah... some people utterly freak out over the name of a dog in a film about blowing up Dams for example.
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Surprising, given it's on ITV.
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Censorship[edit] N****** was portrayed in the 1955 British war film The Dam Busters, in which he was mentioned by name frequently. In 1999, British television network ITV broadcast a censored version of the film, with all instances of the name removed. ITV blamed regional broadcaster London Weekend Television, which in turn alleged that a junior staff member had been responsible for the unauthorised cuts. When ITV again showed a censored version in June 2001, it was criticised by Index on Censorship as "unnecessary and ridiculous" and because the edits introduced continuity errors.[5][6][7] The code word "******" transmitted in Morse Code upon the successful completion of the central mission was not censored. More recently, in 2012, ITV3 have shown the film uncut a few times, but with a warning at the start that it contains racial terms from the period which some people may find offensive. However, in 2013 the film has been shown a few times by Channel 5 uncut and without any warning. Some edited American versions of the film use dubbing to change ******'s name to Trigger Quote:
What is its name?
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Never even heard the N word here back in the day. ( not saying it was never used , only I never heard it (only old ladies asking for N brown wool)
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one of the cats in Hyde park cemetery
![]() https://londoninsight.files.wordpres...0/1b2q9426.jpg I must say though, 'Bogie' is a brilliant name for your pet
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I saw the version with the name removed, I nearly choked on my own spit. To me its sacrosanct, the film itself is almost as important a piece of history of its time as the real events were. But I'm especially biased as I am/was related to Richard Todd.
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one of the cats in Hyde park cemetery
![]() https://londoninsight.files.wordpres...0/1b2q9426.jpg I must say though, 'Bogie' is a brilliant name for your pet ![]() http://adymsmithblog.blogspot.co.uk/...rs-part-1.html |
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I saw the version with the name removed, I nearly choked on my own spit. To me its sacrosanct, the film itself is almost as important a piece of history of its time as the real events were. But I'm especially biased as I am/was related to Richard Todd.
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No evidence of that as yet though.
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