Dam Busters waiting for the first complaint!

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Brian The Dog

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by Paul237:
“So someone's outraged at the lack of outrage? Must be a first. ”

Someone is always outraged when someone else hasn't stopped everyone else being allowed to make up their own minds.

These people are called control freaks and are currently engaged on mass in trying to control people who vape without any evidence to support their nonsense. Sadly some idiots are listening to them.

MonsterMunch99

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“it`s as disappointing, distracting and irritating as a film adaptation of a book that`s wrong.”

Perhaps, but then again films are supposed to be entertainment. The written word and cinema are very different mediums. Simply filming a word-for-word adaptation of a book would usually result in a very dull film that lasts 10 hours.

A film that is loosely based on a book or historical events doesn't take anything away from anything - nobody is forcing you to watch them after all.

TerraCanis

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“There was a reconstructive Documentary in Canada, including archive footage of testing where aircraft got splashback or impacts from released bombs at very low level.

One bomb even bounced up and completely removed the tail of the aircraft and it nosedived into the lake. I can only imagine the crew were killed (it wasn't mentioned)”

That was when the Americans were testing Highball / Speedee, which was a smaller version of the bouncing bomb intended as an anti-shipping weapon. On that occasion the bomb was released from an altitude of about 12 feet (or less than 10 feer according to some sources). All four crew members died.

Whether dropping from such a low height was intentional or the result of a mistake, I don't know, but I suspect it was a mistake.

Oddly enough, the technique of bouncing ordinary bombs off the water to hit ships from the side had been employed by German pilots from the start of the war. To them, the technique was known as the "Swedish Turnip".

muggins14

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by stoatie:
“These days, of course, it's a racist frog*.

*well, the frog's not actually racist, but has been co-opted by racists. You probably don't want to know.”

Oh, right! There's so much I don't know, am glad I don't know, live happily not knowing

tanstaafl

31-12-2016

After reading the thread title I was going to comment that it would be a rather long wait as they're all dead now.

johartuk

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“I imagine them sat there all tense and excited, like a World Cup penalty kick off... and when the ****** finally gets shouted they leap cheering from their armchairs beer and popcorn flying everywhere...

... a smililar sensation to when the albatross in Watership Down said piss when we read it in 4th junior school.
”

I remember reading WD in junior school as well, and discovering that my copy (bought for me as a birthday present by my mum when I found out we'd be reading it at school) was the only one in the class that didn't have a small black box covering the word 'piss' (presumably because everyone else's copy was a school copy)!

RobinOfLoxley

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“That was when the Americans were testing Highball / Speedee, which was a smaller version of the bouncing bomb intended as an anti-shipping weapon. On that occasion the bomb was released from an altitude of about 12 feet (or less than 10 feer according to some sources). All four crew members died.

Whether dropping from such a low height was intentional or the result of a mistake, I don't know, but I suspect it was a mistake.

Oddly enough, the technique of bouncing ordinary bombs off the water to hit ships from the side had been employed by German pilots from the start of the war. To them, the technique was known as the "Swedish Turnip".”

Thanks for the additional info

Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Oh, right! There's so much I don't know, am glad I don't know, live happily not knowing ”

I didn't know that Pepe was a racist tinged Frog either. Gonna have to Google now.

MC_Satan

31-12-2016

Dog aside, this has raised an interesting point. At what point do inaccuracies in a historical drama render it fiction rather than even 'based on real events' Braveheart? The forthcoming 'The Terror'?

phylo_roadking

31-12-2016

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“There is a dichotomy between the technical brilliance of Barnes Wallis and his inventions and the human cost.

56 men died from the crews, that night, and many civilians in the flooding.

Lives just snapped out. Very sobering and would be big news today.

Happened every day of WWII.

Later Tallboy and Grand Slam bombs, also by Barnes Wallis, were totally necessary but also killed many. He must have been affected by his work.”

He was. He spent most of his remaining career postwar working on remote control for aircraft, to take the human out of the equation. He would have been very impressed with the huge steps in accuracy of air delivered munitions in the last couple of decades...and with the development of drone technology.

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