Would you send your child to this school?
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Originally Posted by ustarion:
“https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...rictest-school
I don't think a lot of this sounds too bad!”
“https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...rictest-school
I don't think a lot of this sounds too bad!”
No because I wouldn't live in Brent.
But I am fairly pro the traditional style of teaching as I think it still works for many pupils and gives those who are not in the private sector an opportunity to achieve. I am also very pro differentiation for those who need it.
Originally Posted by striing:
“No because I wouldn't live in Brent.
But I am fairly pro the traditional style of teaching as I think it still works for many pupils and gives those who are not in the private sector an opportunity to achieve. I am also very pro differentiation for those who need it.”
“No because I wouldn't live in Brent.
But I am fairly pro the traditional style of teaching as I think it still works for many pupils and gives those who are not in the private sector an opportunity to achieve. I am also very pro differentiation for those who need it.”
The "traditional style" doesn't really differentiate.
Kids expected to line up quietly, be prepared for class and follow rules? That doesn't sound unnecessarily strict, that just sounds like school.
Yes, I'd send my kids to that school. I'd have concerns about the others around it if it was considered the norm to 'go mad' at being asked to pick something up.
Yes, I'd send my kids to that school. I'd have concerns about the others around it if it was considered the norm to 'go mad' at being asked to pick something up.
Originally Posted by ustarion:
“The "traditional style" doesn't really differentiate.”
“The "traditional style" doesn't really differentiate.”
Well no, that's why I added the line about differentiation. A good teacher/school can and should do both.
The trick is to make sure that the pupils who can benefit from a challenging education receive it (without having to come from families that can pay for it), while recognising that we live in world of difference and being inclusive. Not easy but not impossible. It depends on the attitude and leadership of the school.
The things I would look at for when making a judgement about any school are (in no order) 1) exam results (it's a school after all) 2) value added and 3) qualitative feedback on the outcomes for children with SEN.
Looks OK to me. I think the majority of today's schools struggle with discipline. If they can teach and deter bullying and bad behaviour then there is no problem.
I don't have kids but I would have hated a school like that. My school (all-girls Catholic school in the west of Ireland) wasn't too bad. It was strict enough without being too strict but there weren't too many issues with discipline. There were a couple of disruptive cases but every school has those.
I'd prefer to find a nice happy medium. I don't want my kids turned into yes sir no sir how high would you like me to jump sir mini robots. I want them to choose to want to behave but nor do I want them in a free for all school where bullying and bad behaviour is rife.
I think the head of this school is over egging how bad other schools are. Pretty certain that most kids would pick up a grape when asked by a teacher nicely! I'm not the biggest fan of teenagers, I've parented two, they can be completes arseholes at times but they really aren't as feral as some would have us believe. I'd wager that those too beligerant to pick up a bloody grape are in the minority.
I think the head of this school is over egging how bad other schools are. Pretty certain that most kids would pick up a grape when asked by a teacher nicely! I'm not the biggest fan of teenagers, I've parented two, they can be completes arseholes at times but they really aren't as feral as some would have us believe. I'd wager that those too beligerant to pick up a bloody grape are in the minority.
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“What was a grape doing on the floor surly they are not allowed to eat in class.”
“What was a grape doing on the floor surly they are not allowed to eat in class.”
I'd like to think it was a grape pressing class. Vey important for children to learn a useful trade for the future.
Originally Posted by netcurtains:
“I'd prefer to find a nice happy medium. I don't want my kids turned into yes sir no sir how high would you like me to jump sir mini robots. I want them to choose to want to behave but nor do I want them in a free for all school where bullying and bad behaviour is rife.
I think the head of this school is over egging how bad other schools are. Pretty certain that most kids would pick up a grape when asked by a teacher nicely! I'm not the biggest fan of teenagers, I've parented two, they can be completes arseholes at times but they really aren't as feral as some would have us believe. I'd wager that those too beligerant to pick up a bloody grape are in the minority.”
“I'd prefer to find a nice happy medium. I don't want my kids turned into yes sir no sir how high would you like me to jump sir mini robots. I want them to choose to want to behave but nor do I want them in a free for all school where bullying and bad behaviour is rife.
I think the head of this school is over egging how bad other schools are. Pretty certain that most kids would pick up a grape when asked by a teacher nicely! I'm not the biggest fan of teenagers, I've parented two, they can be completes arseholes at times but they really aren't as feral as some would have us believe. I'd wager that those too beligerant to pick up a bloody grape are in the minority.”
I don't think that exists in parts of the country. It is either shit or strict.
Yeah id definitley would want to see the results first, as a parent. It seems really good on teaching disipline and I do agree that sometimes you cannot beat traditional teaching methods, its what happens in a lecture at university and I do use it a lot in A-level teaching.
In terms of working there, not sure I'd ever teach in a place like that as one of the best things about my job is being able to have a laugh and a joke with the kids and i just don't know if that would happen here.
In terms of working there, not sure I'd ever teach in a place like that as one of the best things about my job is being able to have a laugh and a joke with the kids and i just don't know if that would happen here.
100% yes .
Quite apart from the treatment of the children I like that it also forces the parents to accept their responsibility regarding their children . For example making sure lunch money is paid in----homework completed -----child properly dressed and in school on time . Those basics have gone by the wayside in recent years and that's the start of the rot . If parents neglect to instill an adherence to the school rules then why the hell should the children respect the rules either ?
Quite apart from the treatment of the children I like that it also forces the parents to accept their responsibility regarding their children . For example making sure lunch money is paid in----homework completed -----child properly dressed and in school on time . Those basics have gone by the wayside in recent years and that's the start of the rot . If parents neglect to instill an adherence to the school rules then why the hell should the children respect the rules either ?
Originally Posted by Wong_Billabong:
“Yeah id definitley would want to see the results first, as a parent. It seems really good on teaching disipline and I do agree that sometimes you cannot beat traditional teaching methods,its what happens in a lecture at university and I do use it a lot in A-level teaching.
In terms of working there, not sure I'd ever teach in a place like that as one of the best things about my job is being able to have a laugh and a joke with the kids and i just don't know if that would happen here.”
“Yeah id definitley would want to see the results first, as a parent. It seems really good on teaching disipline and I do agree that sometimes you cannot beat traditional teaching methods,its what happens in a lecture at university and I do use it a lot in A-level teaching.
In terms of working there, not sure I'd ever teach in a place like that as one of the best things about my job is being able to have a laugh and a joke with the kids and i just don't know if that would happen here.”
One of the worst learning techniques.
i don`t think she is actually fit to run a school, i definitely would not send my kids anywhere that favours punishing children for the perceived sins of the parents.
If more schools were like this we wouldn't have so many kids leaving school illiterate and unemployable.
Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“i don`t think she is actually fit to run a school, i definitely would not send my kids anywhere that favours punishing children for the perceived sins of the parents.”
“i don`t think she is actually fit to run a school, i definitely would not send my kids anywhere that favours punishing children for the perceived sins of the parents.”
I do have to agree with this aspect of it all.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“100% yes .
Quite apart from the treatment of the children I like that it also forces the parents to accept their responsibility regarding their children . For example making sure lunch money is paid in----homework completed -----child properly dressed and in school on time . Those basics have gone by the wayside in recent years and that's the start of the rot . If parents neglect to instill an adherence to the school rules then why the hell should the children respect the rules either ?”
“100% yes .
Quite apart from the treatment of the children I like that it also forces the parents to accept their responsibility regarding their children . For example making sure lunch money is paid in----homework completed -----child properly dressed and in school on time . Those basics have gone by the wayside in recent years and that's the start of the rot . If parents neglect to instill an adherence to the school rules then why the hell should the children respect the rules either ?”
Exactly.
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