DS Forums

 
 

EE & the killing of Roxy/Ronnie.Biggest blunder since Pat Butcher.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 30-12-2016, 21:12
pinkprint
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 277

I have a feeling that all this Sean O Conor will be remembered for is killing off the sisters.
Yes i know hes brought back a ''community feel'' ''just like the 80s'' (it is'nt) and all the other overused phrases on this forum
I am still absolutely astonished that the BBC have allowed him to go ahead with this crazy storyline. I mean its clear he dislikes the characters, especially considering the shite hes given them to work with since he took over the show, but why not just let them exit with a chance to return under another producer.
Considering the Cindy Beale error, the Kathy Beale error, the Pat Butcher error, the (perhaps) Angie Watts error need i go on, i find it amazing that yet another 2 female legacy characters are just being sent to the graveyard in a completely wasteful fashion when there are so many other exciting storyline opportunities for them to exit on, dieing in a swimming pool is just BIZARRE.
I am willing to take bets on how long this producer will last, maybe a little bit longer than Lorraine Newman, but not as long as Bryan Birkwood.
pinkprint is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 30-12-2016, 21:14
Adam_Manneh1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,271
Ronnie and Roxy need a break they did bring the show into the 21st Century. I think SOC is a sensible guy and could give a fantastic exit. Also we will get new characters I am sure there will be a new party-girl character since the show is running low on that aspect with Kim now a mother, Stacey a mature woman, Kat gone and Ronnie and Roxy leaving.
Adam_Manneh1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:18
owen10
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 30,240
Well i can safely say that killing off Ronnie snd Roxy will never be as bad as when they killed off Pat Butcher

Pat was iconic

Ronnie and Roxy will be forgotten about in a few weeks
owen10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:25
Chris1964
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,020
I think its short sighted. Ok write them out, but death is pretty final even in soap fantasy world (assuming its not someone's dream ofcourse) and it doesn't give any option to future showrunners.
Chris1964 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:38
Adam_Manneh1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,271
Well i can safely say that killing off Ronnie snd Roxy will never be as bad as when they killed off Pat Butcher

Pat was iconic

Ronnie and Roxy will be forgotten about in a few weeks
I'd disagree with that they are certainly iconic for the Late 2000's - Mid 2010s period of EastEnders.
Adam_Manneh1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:47
wendyhouse
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 131
It's frustrating because on the one hand I think the writing for Ronnie and Roxy has been poor this year and some of the storylines repetitive, which explains how Sam Womack's acting has changed (in certain scenes it just feels like she can't be bothered). On the other hand, when given good material Samantha Womack and Rita Simmons light up the screen. SW in particular is a fantastic actress and has variety. She has brilliant comic timing but can also do serious and dramatic scenes spectacularly. I think she is, under the right material, one of the strongest actresses and memorable characters introduced in the noughties.
wendyhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:50
bumpandgrind
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London Town
Posts: 8,791
1. It's not confirmed they die. Pure speculation. Although I suspect at least one of them will.
2. SOC is doing an excellent job in making characters interesting again - including R&R.
3. Their story over the past couple of months has actually been a good slow burner. Ronnie and Jack effectively taking Roxy's daughter away from her as she then starts to self destruct. It's human. It's real. It's a darn sight better than a sensationalist build up.
4. We now have Glenda and Danny on the scene - which means it's likely to have more plot twists than originally expected.
5. EE have leaked what they want to leak.
6. IT HASN'T EVEN AIRED YET.
bumpandgrind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 21:53
fleabee
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,753
I won't miss them overly
fleabee is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 22:10
Aura101
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,561
1. It's not confirmed they die. Pure speculation. (Although I suspect at least one of them will.
2. SOC is doing an excellent job in making characters interesting again - including R&R.
3. Their story over the past couple of months has actually been a good slow burner. Ronnie and Jack effectively taking Roxy's daughter away from her as she then starts to self destruct. It's human. It's real. It's a darn sight better than a sensationalist build up.
4. We now have Glenda and Danny on the scene - which means it's likely to have more plot twists than originally expected.
5. EE have leaked what they want to leak.
6. IT HASN'T EVEN AIRED YET.
Everything I have read about their 'grizzly' end sounds exactly like what is going to happen going on spoilers and programme synopsis. Along with the language used by both actresses about their exit and Barbera Windsors fury at the situation.
How on earth would their be time in the hour episode to do anything other than kill them off?
Its a real shame I think, considering Samantha and Rita did not want to leave the show never mind get killed off. SOC has treated them with contempt.
I will miss them, and I will miss Glenda I guess theres no reason for her to ever come back again now.
Aura101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 22:15
CherryRose
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: #EE#TheCarters
Posts: 11,281
I think killing them both off is a mistake
CherryRose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:07
nickymonger
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,920
1. It's not confirmed they die. Pure speculation. Although I suspect at least one of them will.
2. SOC is doing an excellent job in making characters interesting again - including R&R.
3. Their story over the past couple of months has actually been a good slow burner. Ronnie and Jack effectively taking Roxy's daughter away from her as she then starts to self destruct. It's human. It's real. It's a darn sight better than a sensationalist build up.
4. We now have Glenda and Danny on the scene - which means it's likely to have more plot twists than originally expected.
5. EE have leaked what they want to leak.
6. IT HASN'T EVEN AIRED YET.
How on earth do you conclude he has made ronnies character..she has sat in the background doing nothing but mother scenes which zhows how soc does not care for sw. She is leaving in a few days and weve barely seen her in thd build up and he certainly hasnt used it to showcase her acting. Sam does great at dramatic. I cant even be bothered watching as im.not watching ronnie as a character anymore and certainly not interested in a baroque style comedic death!
nickymonger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:15
firefly_irl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,746
Like killing Lucy its also rather short sighted if both are killed. One I could live with and if I had to choose I'd probably pick Roxy to go only because the past several years she really hasn't developed as a character at all whereas Ronnie probably has more to give.
firefly_irl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:18
Broken_Arrow
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Suck it
Posts: 7,764
They're boring as ****. Pat was around for more than twice the time they were and was still entertaining up until the end. So no, it's not the biggest mistake since Pat's death. It's not a mistake at all. They've ran their course several times over. Good riddance!
Broken_Arrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:20
johnboybetter
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LONDON TOWN BABY!
Posts: 1,387
I think their exit is playing out so well, except for the fact is just hasnt been long enough! I wish it could have gone on for a few more months!

I really hope they both just run off together but i cant see it happening because of the kids.
johnboybetter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:25
londongirlGre
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,398
I think killing them both off is a mistake
I don't think that killing Ronnie is mistake but I think it's wrong to kill off Roxy. After thinking about it, I think that they both definitely die.
londongirlGre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-12-2016, 23:28
nickymonger
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,920
I think their exit is playing out so well, except for the fact is just hasnt been long enough! I wish it could have gone on for a few more months!

I really hope they both just run off together but i cant see it happening because of the kids.
Dont we know how it is going to go? Happy wedding with roxy starting out well, then getting on drugs and booze as she sees ronnie happy, family scenes. Cue ronnie realising she cant find her, sisterly moment on wall, roxy falls in pool, ronnie jumpz in to save her, drowning due to dress weight or getting stuck, someone finds them. The only thing we dont know is if they die immediately or get rescued, die later. Chances of survival slim as why would they suddenly leave after
nickymonger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 14:46
Aura101
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,561
I think killing them both off is a mistake
Its a disgrace
Aura101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 15:33
Aaron_Silver
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,735
I can't abide Roxy but love Ronnie but I think it's a good time for them to go we need fresh blood.
Aaron_Silver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 15:38
sheila blige
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,618
I think the last time I watched EE with any regularity was when Pam St Clement was in it.
sheila blige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 15:54
haphash
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 14,737
I keep hoping they won't die and will just run off with the kids leaving horrible Jack on his own.
haphash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 16:08
Zarla
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,886
I never assume anything anymore after Max`s 'revenge' was touted in the press and even the trailer made him look menacing. I think SOC likes to plant (and even film) false leads to get ppl talking. DTC did this too. Remember how this time last year everyone thought Dean was going to drown in the lake?
Zarla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 16:11
gavin shipman
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,711
They aren't going to be killed off. There is going to be a big twist.
gavin shipman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 16:13
Zarla
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,886
Dont we know how it is going to go? Happy wedding with roxy starting out well, then getting on drugs and booze as she sees ronnie happy, family scenes. Cue ronnie realising she cant find her, sisterly moment on wall, roxy falls in pool, ronnie jumpz in to save her, drowning due to dress weight or getting stuck, someone finds them. The only thing we dont know is if they die immediately or get rescued, die later. Chances of survival slim as why would they suddenly leave after
What about the clip of them driving off with Ronnie still in her dress? Plus the weight of a dress would not drown a competent swimmer in a swimming pool...a pool is not the sea.
Zarla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 17:04
cobis
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,513
What about the clip of them driving off with Ronnie still in her dress? Plus the weight of a dress would not drown a competent swimmer in a swimming pool...a pool is not the sea.
is a clip of them driving away though or to the wedding?
cobis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-12-2016, 17:06
Aura101
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,561
They're boring as ****. Pat was around for more than twice the time they were and was still entertaining up until the end. So no, it's not the biggest mistake since Pat's death. It's not a mistake at all. They've ran their course several times over. Good riddance!
how dare you! change your tone
Aura101 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:31.