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The Kardashians donate over a hundred meals to the Homeless
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dee123
01-01-2017
Nothing but a pr stunt.
MidnightFalcon
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“I donated for food baskets, gave food and cash to the poor for lunches, known by only a few.

I get tired of not being able to look at Google News without another Kardashian story and another un sexy, 'sexy' shower video.

Not criticizing what they did, just saying it isn't publicity worthy based on their massive income.”

Fair play to you and I take your point about the publicity.

My own view is that regardless of the celebrity factor 100 homeless people had a warm Christmas dinner they wouldn't have otherwise had. It could be argued that the Kardashian "thirst for publicity" has the side effect of raising awareness about homelessness during the harshest time of the year.

What positive effects does going online to whinge about the charitable efforts of celebrities have?

(Rhetorical question - not nesseseraly aimed at you )
Wee Tinkers
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by lockes no 1 fan:
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How many dogs do they buy only for them to be given away a few months later

k”

Really? How do you know this?
mumbles26
01-01-2017
If they had given money, they'd have been accused of flashing their wealth.

They'll never do right for some people.
bollywood
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“Fair play to you and I take your point about the publicity.

My own view is that regardless of the celebrity factor 100 homeless people had a warm Christmas dinner they wouldn't have otherwise had. It could be argued that the Kardashian "thirst for publicity" has the side effect of raising awareness about homelessness during the harshest time of the year.

What positive effects does going online to whinge about the charitable efforts of celebrities have?

(Rhetorical question - not nesseseraly aimed at you )”

I personally don't think people are whining about celebrities, but about the Kardashians, who helped make American culture (including the Presidential Election) into one tasteless reality show. By which I mean, the Kardashian effect on what people value and don't value. Not that they did it alone but you get my point hopefully.

I for example was thinking about springing for the pricey WSJ subscription so I don't have to see one more headline equating Blac Chyna news as equivalent to war in Syria.
Moany Liza
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“Fair play to you and I take your point about the publicity.

My own view is that regardless of the celebrity factor 100 homeless people had a warm Christmas dinner they wouldn't have otherwise had. It could be argued that the Kardashian "thirst for publicity" has the side effect of raising awareness about homelessness during the harshest time of the year.

What positive effects does going online to whinge about the charitable efforts of celebrities have?

(Rhetorical question - not nesseseraly aimed at you )”

I think the issue is that there WAS no actual "effort" involved. The food was not bought and prepared with the primary intention of it going to the homeless and hungry.

It was bought and prepared with the intention of being served to well-heeled influential party guests who didn't actually apparently need it or want it.

That is the reason why I am underwhelmed by this gesture - because it was never the needy who were its intended recipients. I'm not criticising the fact that 100 or so people ended up receiving food they may not have had.... simply that their needs were not even a consideration before it became apparent that there was to be a substantial surplus of food to dispose of.
Trulytrue
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“I think the issue is that there WAS no actual "effort" involved. The food was not bought and prepared with the primary intention of it going to the homeless and hungry.

It was bought and prepared with the intention of being served to well-heeled influential party guests who didn't actually apparently need it or want it.

That is the reason why I am underwhelmed by this gesture - because it was never the needy who were its intended recipients. I'm not criticising the fact that 100 or so people ended up receiving food they may not have had.... simply that their needs were not even a consideration before it became apparent that there was to be a substantial surplus of food to dispose of.”


I have looked everywhere and the only reference to leftovers that I can find, is a link to this thread and a gossip page where it says it was probably leftovers. Where does it say it was? Im not doubting you as you seem to know , but for the life of me I cannot find it and its doing my brain in now. I dont like half a story




These people seem to be hated by many I have no idea why, but when you let your own dislike get in the way of sense then its those people who come across as hateful. Keep the hate for when people do hateful things.

I could have done more for the homeless than I did this year. but I do not deserve to be sneered at because of that.
lockes no 1 fan
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Wee Tinkers:
“Really? How do you know this? ”

there is a few articles on the dogs and how they all mysteriously disappeared,

Unfortunately my daughter is a fan of the show, you see the dogs being given as a present and then they are never seen again
owen10
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“If they had given money, they'd have been accused of flashing their wealth.

They'll never do right for some people.”

If they cooked meals for a thousand homelees people instead of a hundred then people would not be critcising them for doing it

Doing a hundred meals for that amount of homeless people is a nice gesture. But come on. How many more homeless people are there in that state. I would say probably thousands. And they never got a meal. So why was these hundred people the lucky ones
lockes no 1 fan
01-01-2017
In One of the episodes they took a homeless guy of the street to give him a makeover, and when they had their fun with him they dropped him right back of, thats the sort of help the Kardashians dish out.

The whole family are so self absorbed its quite concerning
owen10
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by lockes no 1 fan:
“In One of the episodes they took a homeless guy of the street to give him a makeover, and when they had their fun with him they dropped him right back of, thats the sort of help the Kardashians dish out.

The whole family are so self absorbed its quite concerning”

I bet they also said to him

Oh wait. Dont forget your Doggy bag

We have plenty of Christmas food left from the massive Christmas party we had where so many celebrities were going to turn up. But they never did. Which was very strange as we are so famous and rich
Pitman
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by owen10:
“If they cooked meals for a thousand homelees people instead of a hundred then people would not be critcising them for doing it

Doing a hundred meals for that amount of homeless people is a nice gesture. But come on. How many more homeless people are there in that state. I would say probably thousands. And they never got a meal. So why was these hundred people the lucky ones”

there's more than a thousand, there's about two million just in India, perhaps they should have flown to Mumbai with Gordon Ramsey in tow if they were serious ?
owen10
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“there's more than a thousand, there's about two million just in India, perhaps they should have flown to Mumbai with Gordon Ramsey in tow if they were serious ? ”

Wel, im sure the Multi millionaire Bollywood actors are doing their bit for the homeless. And i bet a lot of them are doing it right now as they can remember what it was like living in poverty
Trulytrue
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by owen10:
“If they cooked meals for a thousand homelees people instead of a hundred then people would not be critcising them for doing it

Doing a hundred meals for that amount of homeless people is a nice gesture. But come on. How many more homeless people are there in that state. I would say probably thousands. And they never got a meal. So why was these hundred people the lucky ones”

Oh I think they would. it seems to be a sport of some kind

Many many people give to the homeless at Christmas people drop bags of food to them, many places doing meals. Where I was there were many more helpers than guests. They could probably walk from place to place getting meals.

Next year I will do it again, but not buy the food I did this year, but will do that spread out through the year.. drop a bag at each person's bedding stash once or twice a mth. The money I spent could have been better allocated if I had known
Trulytrue
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Wel, im sure the Multi millionaire Bollywood actors are doing their bit for the homeless. And i bet a lot of them are doing it right now as they can remember what it was like living in poverty”

I don't get this post Are you saying Bollywood actors were all living in poverty before fame?
Pitman
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Trulytrue:
“Many many people give to the homeless at Christmas people drop bags of food to them, many places doing meals. Where I was there were many more helpers than guests. They could probably walk from place to place getting meals.

Next year I will do it again, but not buy the food I did this year, but will do that spread out through the year.. drop a bag at each person's bedding stash once or twice a mth. The money I spent could have been better allocated if I had known”

in London they were handing out jumpers and coats for about a week, better than some pony meal, the homeless are now walking about with about ten layers on each
zx50
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“If they had given money, they'd have been accused of flashing their wealth.

They'll never do right for some people.”

Yeah, no doubt. Maybe it was for good publicity, maybe it was out of genuine good intentions. Whatever the reason though, 100 homeless people got a luxury meal and that's all the homeless people would have been bothered about. There'll be other high profile celebrities in America who'll have given things to the homeless, not just the Kardashians.
Trulytrue
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“in London they were handing out jumpers and coats for about a week, better than some pony meal, the homeless are now walking about with about ten layers on each ”

I collected over 30 jumbo bags of warm clothes and toiletries. People are very generous this time of year.
Was talking to a few of the homeless people and they were saying about some of the things given to them.. Children coming up to them and giving bags of goodies they said that was always lovely as the children never judged .. One was given a brand new jacket with labels £100 it cost.. He could not understand how anyone could spend that much money on something they didn't even need or really want.

There was a Asian fella there today well dressed and well spoken.. he didn't come till just before we closed the doors. He said he didnt know anything about it.. I was making him up some food parcels to take with him as he was hungry and made him some soup while he waited. .. Was chatting with him and he said "if anyone had told me in the summer that by November I would be on the streets, I would have laughed in their face, Last year I was in restaurants and parties with celebs now I am on the streets, he owned a few restaurants that went bust and with it his home and everything he own except his clothes.

I said to him people are not getting the fact, that there for the grace of God go we" Jobs, homes, pensions, savings nothing is secure any more like they used to be.

More and more are finding out that the homeless are not just the crack heads and alcoholics or the mentally ill, its everyday people like you , like me
Pitman
01-01-2017
nice post Truly

did you advise the bloke to flog that jacket and head down to Primark ?
Moany Liza
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Trulytrue:
“I have looked everywhere and the only reference to leftovers that I can find, is a link to this thread and a gossip page where it says it was probably leftovers. Where does it say it was? Im not doubting you as you seem to know , but for the life of me I cannot find it and its doing my brain in now. I dont like half a story




These people seem to be hated by many I have no idea why, but when you let your own dislike get in the way of sense then its those people who come across as hateful. Keep the hate for when people do hateful things.

I could have done more for the homeless than I did this year. but I do not deserve to be sneered at because of that.”

OK, so if we consider the likely unit cost of each of these "gourmet meals" and multiply it by one hundred.... then consider how much further the money for this would stretch if the meals were not "gourmet standard" but were still high quality produce, nicely cooked and presented by a capable and imaginative cook. That would show a greater intention to provide for as many people as possible on the same budget - would it not?

Now I am not suggesting for one moment that just because someone is homeless that they are somehow not entitled to receive a "gourmet meal", because that is not the case. However, if someone was really keen to reach out and help deserving people to enjoy a decent meal on Christmas Day, would it not be logical to make sure that the budget for it benefited as large a number of people as possible?

The fact that the "gourmet" standard of this food has been emphasised is what lends weight to the argument that this food was not originally intended to be served to the homeless. If the plan was always to provide food to the homeless on Christmas Day, why would it have to be intimated as "chef-cooked" or "gourmet standard"?

It doesn't. By drawing attention to its provenance as "chef cooked", as opposed to mass catered, this is either Kris Jenner putting on airs and graces about HER acts of charity being somehow more worthy than those of other charitable donors - OR, it was her party leftovers.

Someone who REALLY wants to help as many people as possible will not imbue their charitable efforts with a veneer of thinly-veiled superiority.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that anyone is sneering at you. If you donated your hard-earned cash or otherwise gave of your valuable time or your labour to help the homeless this Christmas, then you are to be applauded for that. The value of charitable giving is somewhat relative and those who can afford to give more should probably do more. I know a lot of ordinary people who have done a lot of good stuff for various homeless charities this year, both financially and practically. Their heartfelt gestures are far more meaningful than a multi-millionairess sending gourmet meals to feed a very modest number of people.
owen10
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Trulytrue:
“I don't get this post Are you saying Bollywood actors were all living in poverty before fame?”

Most of them were. But they were lucky they also found a profession that were good at. Some came from privileged backgrounds where they did not have to live in poverty
SegaGamer
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“If they had given money, they'd have been accused of flashing their wealth.

They'll never do right for some people.”

They have been selling themselves for attention whenever they get the opportunity..........you can't really blame people for being sceptical about their intentions.
dee123
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“If they had given money, they'd have been accused of flashing their wealth.

They'll never do right for some people.”

They are the pinnacle of attention whores who fetish African American men and their culture. There are far better celebrity role models.
zx50
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by dee123:
“They are the pinnacle of attention whores who fetish African American men and their culture. There are far better celebrity role models.”

I've just looked up their boyfriends and they aren't all African American. Anyway, why is it so bad for a non-black woman to have more than one black fella in their list of boyfriends? Having more than one black fella in your list of exes doesn't make you a bad role model.
Mr Dos
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by dee123:
“They are the pinnacle of attention whores who fetish African American men and their culture. There are far better celebrity role models.”

Only the ones whose name begins with 'K'. Krusty the Klown better watch out . . .
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