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Olympic "heroes"
They run around a track really fast, swim really fast or are rich enough to have been brought up with a dancing horse. The BBC and others don't even use the word "heroes" when discussing doctors and nurses, why is it reserved for Olympians? |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11774706 Dame Valarie Adams, the Shot Putter
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Jessica Ennis has been made a Dame in 2016... after being made a CBE in 2013... having been made an MBE in 2011. Why didn't they just wait until her career was over and honour her appropriately? And, like with Andy Murray and other sporting Knights and Dames, how do they appropriately honour her if she goes on to achieve great things in future? [quote] She announced her retirement earlier this year. Sorry - messed up the quote when snipping.
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Ridiculous. Mo Farah seems a nice enough chap but a knighthood for running quickly? Yes he has to train but a lot of it is down to genetics. But that's neither here nor there. A knighthood. For running quickly. Anyone would think the honours are just handed out to whomever the government thinks is currently in vogue with the masses.
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Ridiculous. Mo Farah seems a nice enough chap but a knighthood for running quickly? Yes he has to train but a lot of it is down to genetics. But that's neither here nor there. A knighthood. For running quickly. Anyone would think the honours are just handed out to whomever the government thinks is currently in vogue with the masses.
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Ridiculous. Mo Farah seems a nice enough chap but a knighthood for running quickly? Yes he has to train but a lot of it is down to genetics. But that's neither here nor there. A knighthood. For running quickly. Anyone would think the honours are just handed out to whomever the government thinks is currently in vogue with the masses.
It's like saying "Pfft an Oscar just for acting in a movie?" but that is exactly what the award is for, a simple recognition. |
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Andy Murray certainly deserves the award for all he's achieved over the years, and the way he has reached the top this year.
I look forward to umpires announcing "Sir Andy is challenging the line call" next year.
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It'd be a bit weird to have a Sir Jessica Ennis-hill.
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She has the muscular body of a man; why not the title to go with it.
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She has the muscular body of a man; why not the title to go with it.
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...essica%20Ennis Jessica has never looked like she has the "body of a man" imho. Yes she's got well defined muscles especially her abs etc.. but she still looks very much like a woman to me. |
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She has the muscular body of a man; why not the title to go with it.
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So if a woman happens to spend a lot of time in the gym as part of her sportswoman career and happens to have developed muscles and a low body to fat ratio they're a man? Interesting logic there. Can't a woman be strong and remain a woman?
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...essica%20Ennis Jessica has never looked like she has the "body of a man" imho. Yes she's got well defined muscles especially her abs etc.. but she still looks very much like a woman to me.
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Surprised Ed Balls did not get a knighthood for his services to dancing and supervising the demise of Norwich City Football Club since being appointed chairman
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She has the muscular body of a man; why not the title to go with it.
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I'm neither a fan of tennis nor Andy Murray, but I suppose a knighthood was inevitable.
However, as a massive fan of athletics, I would ask why only a knighthood for Mo Farah? He is now unquestionably the greatest British athlete of time, and his predecessor as the greatest British athlete of time, Sebastian Coe, was given a seat in the House of Lords. Why not the same privilege for Mo? Lord Farah of Hounslow, it has a definite ring to it. As for Victoria Beckham, don't get me started. |
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However, as a massive fan of athletics, I would ask why only a knighthood for Mo Farah? He is now unquestionably the greatest British athlete of time, and his predecessor as the greatest British athlete of time, Sebastian Coe, was given a seat in the House of Lords. Why not the same privilege for Mo? Lord Farah of Hounslow, it has a definite ring to it.
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However, as a massive fan of athletics, I would ask why only a knighthood for Mo Farah? He is now unquestionably the greatest British athlete of time, and his predecessor as the greatest British athlete of time, Sebastian Coe, was given a seat in the House of Lords. Why not the same privilege for Mo? Lord Farah of Hounslow, it has a definite ring to it.
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Thankfully, nothing for Cowell again despite his so called self publicised charity work
But then they would probably have difficulty fitting something over his head This outdated honours system is long overdue for an overhaul and perhaps abolition I mean, British Empire Medal! When did we last have an empire |
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But you are overlooking Coe's subsequent political career including being chief of staff to William Hague when he was leader of the opposition. His elevation to the Lords after serving as an MP was I suspect more down to politics than his sport achievements.
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Well Seb Coe was made a Lord 20 years after his running career peaked so these things take time. And I think Seb's was mostly due to his work off the track rather than his performances on it.
Away from sport, delighted that it's now Sir Ken Dodd and Sir Ray Davies. |
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Olympic "heroes"
They run around a track really fast, swim really fast or are rich enough to have been brought up with a dancing horse. The BBC and others don't even use the word "heroes" when discussing doctors and nurses, why is it reserved for Olympians? That's why. Quote:
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You should be given an OBE for your services to ignorance. You obviously DON'T have to be famous at all to be knighted. It isn't part of the criteria and if you don't know who Mark Rylance is then you clearly aren't a film watcher. And how miserable you APPEAR to some shouldn't detract from the fact that you are one of the best sportsman Great Britain has ever produced. Ken was found not guilty. Jeeeeez. ![]() Quote:
So Britain's joint most decorated Olympian gets an MBE and Ennis-Hill gets made a Dame. Obviously Jason Kenny needs to up his celebrity status because at this rate his wife will be a Dame before he gets Knighted. The whole honours system is a joke. (I'm not even going to talk about Beckham or Wintour).
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The sporting ones have always been very inconsistent. In 2005 they gave EVERY member of the Ashes team an honour but snubbed Steven Gerrard because "they could only give out a certain amount of honours for sport" but somehow managed to find enough honours in 2012 for EVERY gold medallist AND a few silver medallists.
They made an announcement in 2012 not to limit the number of gongs for Olympians, as had apparently been the case in the past. Everyone who got a gold at the Olympics or Paralympics got a minimum MBE, which is fair enough, but I do agree that it's all a bit uneven, and it's much easier to rack up multiple golds in certain sports, and especially certain Paralympic sports. Jess Ennis deserves being a Dame more than Quote:
No it doesn't, but it cheapens the awards given to those who actually did something worthwhile without becoming a millionaire in the process.
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Honours have always been handed out as simple recognition of high achievement in whatever it is a person does, and that includes sport, the arts, entertainment etc. They aren't reserved solely for the "worthy" cases.
It's like saying "Pfft an Oscar just for acting in a movie?" but that is exactly what the award is for, a simple recognition. Quote:
But you are overlooking Coe's subsequent political career including being chief of staff to William Hague when he was leader of the opposition. His elevation to the Lords after serving as an MP was I suspect more down to politics than his sport achievements.
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I think lots of people don't know of him because the theater he does is a pretty niche interest in comparison say to tennis. I see plays a couple of times a year and I hadn't even heard of him until Wolf Hall.
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Well Seb Coe was made a Lord 20 years after his running career peaked so these things take time. And I think Seb's was mostly due to his work off the track rather than his performances on it.
In terms of honours Coe was given a knighthood as an honour for his athletics and services to sport career a few years ago ...it was AFTER the peerage which is very unusual but also underlines that his peerage was a sop for his failure to hold his seat as an MP from William Hague. (Sorry,I have just seen this very well explained in a post a few above my own) |
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No it doesn't, but it cheapens the awards given to those who actually did something worthwhile without becoming a millionaire in the process.
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So volunteer for something for 50+ years that helps other people and get a BEM or MBE, or win a few medals/trophies for a handful of years doing soemthing you enjoy and makes lots of money for yourself and become a Knight or Dame - shows whats wrong with the honours system imo.
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Mark Rylance is knighted. Who is he? Never heard of him.
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