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Old 31-12-2016, 13:32
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Especially as her company is about to be fined for not posting her accounts to companies house.
Wow, hardly crime of the century. I've been fined a couple of times for accounts being filed a day or so late. She should have a word with her accountant maybe. <shrugs>
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:42
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Wow, hardly crime of the century. I've been fined a couple of times for accounts being filed a day or so late. She should have a word with her accountant maybe. <shrugs>
It's the third year running the accounts have been filed late, now her company is under threat of being closed down because of it.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/victoria-be...-again-1598707
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:50
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Ridiculous. Mo Farah seems a nice enough chap but a knighthood for running quickly? Yes he has to train but a lot of it is down to genetics. But that's neither here nor there. A knighthood. For running quickly. Anyone would think the honours are just handed out to whomever the government thinks is currently in vogue with the masses.
He also saved the lives of many animals.

By promoting Quorn.
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:01
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"By promoting Quorn"


That a very good reason for not getting an honour
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:07
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Jess' award makes up for the absolute outrage that she never won 'rear of the year'. 😀

There is no better arse in the known world. 😍
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:08
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Mark Rylance is knighted. Who is he? Never heard of him. You have to be be moderately famous to be knighted and I doubt anyone knows who he is.
I think he's that camp bloke with the massive teeth. Was on X-factor a few years ago.
The camp bloke who was on the X-Factor a few years ago is Rylan Clark.

Mark Rylance may not be as well known but he is significantly more talented:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rylance
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:15
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The camp bloke who was on the X-Factor a few years ago is Rylan Clark.

Mark Rylance may not be as well known but he is significantly more talented:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rylance

Excellent in Bridge of Spies
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Old 31-12-2016, 14:15
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Amidst all the Beckhams. Murrays, Dodds etc it's grossly unfair that the real people get very little publicity

all those businessmen cronies of Cameron and May who assiduously donate wads of cash to the party.............all those pen-pushers who toil away in the back office of Number 10 for 20 years just to get a gong

Nobody knows their names................no features in the press, no spots on Sky News

They make this country safe and run it for the elite and rich yet nobody gives a damn..........
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:22
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Amidst all the Beckhams. Murrays, Dodds etc it's grossly unfair that the real people get very little publicity

all those businessmen cronies of Cameron and May who assiduously donate wads of cash to the party.............all those pen-pushers who toil away in the back office of Number 10 for 20 years just to get a gong

Nobody knows their names................no features in the press, no spots on Sky News

They make this country safe and run it for the elite and rich yet nobody gives a damn..........
Here's a feature about some of the top awards going to scientists.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...r-honours-list

It's tempting to blame the media for focusing on the stars from sport and the arts, but the reality is that the above article will get a lot less attention from the public than ones about celebrities. If you aren't happy, promote the stories about the people who "no-one" cares about.
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:26
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???

Why?

???

Anyway I've changed my mind. I've just seen that hockey player Sam Quek. I'd give her one.
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:53
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It's tempting to blame the media for focusing on the stars from sport and the arts, but the reality is that the above article will get a lot less attention from the public than ones about celebrities. If you aren't happy, promote the stories about the people who "no-one" cares about.
Or even better, nominate someone you think is worthy of an honour but has been overlooked.

https://www.gov.uk/honours/nominate-someone-in-the-uk
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:55
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She announced her retirement earlier this year.

Sorry - messed up the quote when snipping.
Exactly. She retired less than 6 years after first being awarded an MBE. So why couldn't they just wait, see how much she achieved in her career and then give her the appropriate accolade?

Why did they bother with the CBE in 2013 if there was the potential for her to be made a Dame 3 years later?

It's just evidence of how they are handing these awards out frivolously and unnecessarily.

Why not award people for the sum total of their achievements rather than award them a new honour every couple of years just for the sake of it?

As I said in my original comment, it feels like they are handing out these honours effectively as a PR exercise, because they think they must be seen to reward all these public figures because the public are clamouring for it.

I don't believe that's the case, and that they are in fact undermining the whole system by being too generous and impatient.
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:12
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This is true.
But I out rank him.
I'm called Earl.
and I'm the Duke of Earl
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:15
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Jess' award makes up for the absolute outrage that she never won 'rear of the year'. 😀

There is no better arse in the known world. 😍
Perhaps that is the real reason she got her award bearing in mind she only has one gold medal. Lovely Laura already has four. Going back in time I don't recall Daley Thomson getting an equivalent honour either.
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:16
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Perhaps that is the real reason she got her award bearing in mind she only has one gold medal. Lovely Laura already has four. Going back in time I don't recall Daley Thomson getting an equivalent honour either.
I don't think Daley's bum was even nominated
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:22
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I don't think Daley's bum was even nominated
I think that answers my question then!
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:44
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Mark Rylance is knighted. Who is he? Never heard of him. You have to be be moderately famous to be knighted and I doubt anyone knows who he is.
Probably one of the very best British actors currently alive, who also writes and directs and was the first artistic director of the Globe theatre. A huge talent, and utterly mesmerising.
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:54
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Exactly. She retired less than 6 years after first being awarded an MBE. So why couldn't they just wait, see how much she achieved in her career and then give her the appropriate accolade?

Why did they bother with the CBE in 2013 if there was the potential for her to be made a Dame 3 years later?

It's just evidence of how they are handing these awards out frivolously and unnecessarily.

Why not award people for the sum total of their achievements rather than award them a new honour every couple of years just for the sake of it?
Normally it's a minimum five years between gongs, but they seem to have reduced it to four for Olympians, which is understandable, although I do agree they could just let someone sit out a round, and accept that someone will whine about the 'snub'.

I couldn't tell you when Jess got her MBE or OBE, but she got her CBE after the 2012 Olympics, so it's four years between the CBE and becoming a Dame. She has now retired, so they know her sporting achievements, unless she's in line for any more upgraded medals following the doping investigations. Don't forget, she's won at the World Championships as well as the Olympics. I do, however, think they could have waited another year to Dame her, and she could enjoy it more. Even better, let her get on with her post-retirement career, although I suspect she'll be keen to have some peace and quiet with her family, and maybe have another child. However, I'd expect her to stay involved in sport and it's nice for that to be factored in.

IMO, as soon as they decided to Dame Kelly Homes on her retirement, it set a precedent. They really should have waited a few years, and to be fair, she has done a lot of work to encourage kids into sport anyway, but it's hard to delay giving the award to others after that.

Perhaps that is the real reason she got her award bearing in mind she only has one gold medal. Lovely Laura already has four. Going back in time I don't recall Daley Thomson getting an equivalent honour either.
Laura has four, but two were for team medals, and it's easier to get multiple golds in track cycling than in heptathlon. It's too simplistic to base it on the number of golds. She'll get one thought - it's a matter of time.

I do, however, think it's a farce that Daley Thompson hasn't had the recognition he deserves, but presumably there is still time. He's currently a CBE, which he got in 2000, so he's almost there. I expect all that needs to happen is for someone to nominate him. He keeps a low profile, and maybe he likes it that way, but I think it would be well received by the public if he got one?
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Old 31-12-2016, 16:55
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Honours have always been handed out as simple recognition of high achievement in whatever it is a person does, and that includes sport, the arts, entertainment etc. They aren't reserved solely for the "worthy" cases.

It's like saying "Pfft an Oscar just for acting in a movie?" but that is exactly what the award is for, a simple recognition.
In the case of sportspeople, I think it's also an acknowledgment that they often make excellent role models for young people, and encourage participation in sport generally.
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Old 31-12-2016, 17:05
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Exactly. She retired less than 6 years after first being awarded an MBE. So why couldn't they just wait, see how much she achieved in her career and then give her the appropriate accolade?

Why did they bother with the CBE in 2013 if there was the potential for her to be made a Dame 3 years later?

It's just evidence of how they are handing these awards out frivolously and unnecessarily.

Why not award people for the sum total of their achievements rather than award them a new honour every couple of years just for the sake of it?

As I said in my original comment, it feels like they are handing out these honours effectively as a PR exercise, because they think they must be seen to reward all these public figures because the public are clamouring for it.

I don't believe that's the case, and that they are in fact undermining the whole system by being too generous and impatient.
Why do you care? It really doesn't matter.

At least Jess Ennis-Hill deserves her honours - unlike some others.
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Old 31-12-2016, 17:37
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Andy Murray knighted? Oh boy.

He's a great tennis player but too miserable. He is the patron saint of depression.
I'll settle for three olympic medals, twice winner of Wimbledon, Being the major force in bringing the Davis Cup back to Britain, almost single-handedly reviving British tennis.... Anybody remember when we were useless at tennis...? And, of course, ending 2016 as ranked world number one.

So he can appear dour, but what would you like him to do..? Go on court wearing a red nose..? Personally, I tend towards the opinion that, if looking focused and determined on court gives him an apparently intense demeanour I'll say "Crack on, Andy".



Mark Rylance is knighted. Who is he? Never heard of him. You have to be be moderately famous to be knighted and I doubt anyone knows who he is.
Mark Rylance won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor in Bridge of Spies. He is highly regarded as a Shakespearian actor, he was the first artistic director of the Globe Theatre when it opened in 1995. He has won an Olivier Award and three Tony Awards. He has won two Best Actor BAFTA's and is Patron of the London International Festival of Theatre and also of the British Stop The War Coalition. This year (2016) was listed in the Time 100 List of Most Influential People.

But hey.... You've never heard of him so obviously he deserves no recognition at all.


Ken Dodd was knighted for services to tax invasion. Well done, Ken!
Or even Tax Evasion.

You can imagine the honours people going through the list struggling to find anyone famous and still alive. They pick the names out of a hat. They Google each name just to check they're still alive!
In the light of what I've just written about Mark Rylance and Andy Murray above, would you like to reconsider that comment..?
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:23
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I am a little surprised that Alistair Brownlee is not on the list. He successfully defended his Olympic Gold medal in the Triathlon. Why have other Olympians been honoured and not him (Unless he was offered and refused)
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:40
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Why do women only get a "Damehood" why can't they be Knights too?
Damehood is the female equivalent of Knighthood. It's not a lesser title as you appear to think.
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:40
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these 'rewards' are meaningless when every mildly well known celeb/sports person ends up getting one eventually.
also for most ridiculous award this year someone got recognized simply because of sheer luck being born with a good brain and managing to get a masters at the at age of 17
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:51
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Why do you care? It really doesn't matter.
Why do you care about my opinion then? Go and comment on something you think does matter and leave other people to express their own opinion.
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