You are right, and I read an interview with the actress this week where she said she was fond of her character but frequently feels aggravated by how thick she is!

Mo mouse! You're back!!!

I am a bit vague about the Connors. Is Aiden Connor Maria Connor's brother-in-law and Liam Connor's uncle? I know Maria was related to Carla Connor in some way.

You bet your boots I am.

Aidan is Liam's cousin and Carla's half brother.

Thankyou, avon. That will be an interesting relationship between Liam, Aiden and the baby if Aiden is the father.

Humph!!!

You may be a legend Mo mouse but I can see I'm going to have to watch out for you where Maria is concerned!!

Think they were third cousins or something, quite a tenuous link!!
Obviously we are supposed to believe Aidan was regularly at Connor family gatherings enough to know Maria even though he was never at any of the ones we ever saw!!
Much as I like Aidan ok I do believe it would have been more realistic to have brought cousin Tom back!!

she was supposedly pregnant when she was shagging Jason and Marcus, that never came to anything. She has that much casual sex surely she must have the implant?

She was never pregnant when she was with Jason or Marcus so not sure where that's come from.

No I don't think Tom would be believeable in running the factory.

Then let's agree to disagree. We obviously have very different ideas about what makes a "good Mum" and about the responsibilities attached to having a child.

I humbly apologise, ndd. As it happens, I quite like Maria despite her obvious flaws and inability to keep her underwear round her waist.

If Maria had become pregnant when she had sex with Tyrone Dobbs, Tony Gordon, Jason Grimshaw, Marcus ?, Luke Brittan, Adam Barlow and Aiden Connor, she would have 8 children - so far.

Brothers Paul and Liam Connor moved to Weatherfield in 2006 after buying Adam Barlow out of the factory. Their sister Michelle was already working in the Rovers and the family was rounded out by Michelle's son Ryan and Paul's wife, and their childhood friend, Carla.

Liam married Maria, fathering Paul (stillborn) and Little Liam (born after his father's death)

Michelle, Paul and Liam's dad Barry is Johnny Connor's second cousin; Johnny was also a close friend of Carla's mother and the presumed father. Carla's mum only told Rob that Johnny was Carla's father.
This means Carla, unknowingly, married her third cousin Paul.

That would make Aidan and Little Liam third cousins once removed.

A hypothetical child of Maria (mother) and Aidan (father) would be Little Liam's half-sibling as the closest relationship is the one that "counts".

On the other hand, a hypothetical child of Eva (mother) and Aidan (father) would be Little Liam's fourth cousin.

Just to compare with another soap - in EE Lexi Pierce is the daughter of Lola Pierce and Ben Mitchell. Lola and Ben are third cousins once removed, making Lexi a third cousin twice removed to Ben's half sister Louise.

She really is too soft for hard time. I hope the prison is near a railway line. I hope she can hear the whistle blowing. I hope she is close to the window so she can see the midnite special when it shines it's light on her. I hope......

Jewels you are so so right with your comments.

I'm happy to do that, yeah!!

I do admit she's dropped the ball with Liam this last few months but previous to that I do think she's been as good a Mum to him as she could have been, certainly no worse than any other soap Mum & a damn site better than the majority!!

Sorry but this is a very pointless comment!!

If she'd got pregnant with every bloke she had sex with she would probably have about 20+ kids by now, so what????

Off thetop of my head I can add the names Nick Tilsley, Charlie Stubbs, Chris Pitcher, Vikram Desai, Jamie Baldwin, Chris Gray, John Armley, Peter Barlow & numerous one night stands but again so what??

Or do you want to start a thread on how many children each of Corrie's female residents could have had by how many sexual partners they have had!!

Heaven forbid some might even have had two to the same partner!!!!

That is amazing research, Nefersitra; well done.

Never mind Peter Barlow. Ken had so many affairs if we were to add up all the possible children we could put a full Notre Dame football team on the field, and fill the first row with step brothers and sisters. Let's not start mudslinging, it might get embarrassing.

Maria actually called herself "thick" in the episode where Aiden was visiting her in prison last night.

Lol!! You're not wrong there & yes her flaws are obvious which is part of the reason I do like her so much!! I've known a lot of girls like her in my time, though none who have been kicked by life as many times as she has!!
Good to have you back on the forum!! I never knew you first time round but like I say you have legend status on here!!

Not for the first time!!
She knows her own shortcomings & is honest about it, another reason I like her so much as a character!!