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Old 31-12-2016, 18:34
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Traveller's guides are available to read at your leisure as are maps and an abundance of information in hotels.
A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.

Travellers guides will only give info on the most visited tourist sites


Smartphones' mapping and internet abilities greatly enhance travelling to places you don't know, not just for checking your facebook or twitter
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:35
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See James, less is more.
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:38
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I have no idea waht you're on about.
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:39
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Traveller's guides are available to read at your leisure as are maps and an abundance of information in hotels.
Brexiters, once again, displaying that they're stuck in the 1950s and want to drag everyone else back there

My phone provides me with up to date information, sometimes from people who actually live there. Not from someone who once spent two weeks there for Lonely Planet years ago. It also provides me with turn-by-turn directions and a way to call for help if I need it. I can also get up to date information on public transport times

A bloody A to Z doesn't do that. I don't get out a paper map when I'm in an unfamilar UK city, and there's an obvious reason why I don't...
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Old 31-12-2016, 19:23
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A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.

Travellers guides will only give info on the most visited tourist sites


Smartphones' mapping and internet abilities greatly enhance travelling to places you don't know, not just for checking your facebook or twitter
Well I managed with guides after vsiting the continent over a period of over forty years. I also spoke other languages up to tourist level.
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Old 31-12-2016, 19:24
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Brexiters, once again, displaying that they're stuck in the 1950s and want to drag everyone else back there

My phone provides me with up to date information, sometimes from people who actually live there. Not from someone who once spent two weeks there for Lonely Planet years ago. It also provides me with turn-by-turn directions and a way to call for help if I need it. I can also get up to date information on public transport times

A bloody A to Z doesn't do that. I don't get out a paper map when I'm in an unfamilar UK city, and there's an obvious reason why I don't...
You are so childish calling people names. Grow up.
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Old 31-12-2016, 19:35
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You are so childish calling people names. Grow up.
"Brexiter" is a childish name now? Or are you just having to resort to accusations because your argument is terribly old fashioned and nonsensical in the modern world?
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Old 31-12-2016, 19:42
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A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.
Well I've wandered many small streets in Europe and never had to get my phone out to find a particular establishment. Usually in a small street my eyes tell my brain "Ah there it is!".
You should try it some time, perhaps.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:32
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A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.

Travellers guides will only give info on the most visited tourist sites


Smartphones' mapping and internet abilities greatly enhance travelling to places you don't know, not just for checking your facebook or twitter
This I so untrue, I wonder if you've ever actually used a map or guidebook, or have any idea how to do so?

No reason why you should, of course.....
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:36
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You are so childish calling people names. Grow up.
Well said.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:42
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Perhaps you should follow your own advice - you didn't seem to think that brexiter was a childish name earlier on this month, nor do you think that remoaner is an insult, even though it's a far more pejorative term. Hypocrisy and faux outrage never looks good.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=65

(and before you try to dredge up posts of mine in retaliation - I freely and unashamedly use the term "brexshitter")
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:46
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Didn't realise the EU has told us we can't have cheap calls within the EU. Thought they said they wouldn't negotiate anything with us until A50 was activated?? Anyone got a link to the EU leaders already starting this negotiation?
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:50
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Didn't realise the EU has told us we can't have cheap calls within the EU. Thought they said they wouldn't negotiate anything with us until A50 was activated?? Anyone got a link to the EU leaders already starting this negotiation?
The EU isn't a phone company. Once the UK leaves they will no longer be covered by EU laws capping roaming charges, ergo the phone companies can charge you what they like.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:52
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The EU isn't a phone company. Once the UK leaves they will no longer be covered by EU laws capping roaming charges, ergo the phone companies can charge you what they like.
And three out of four of the network operators has a history of needing to be dragged kicking and screaming into lowering those prices by the EU. So anyone who thinks that this won't change is deluded. The remaining network operator might keep things the same, as they are trying to lower roaming costs to all countries, not just EU ones.

A lot of brexiters are pretty deluded so this is not surprising
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:54
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Perhaps you should follow your own advice - you didn't seem to think that brexiter was a childish name earlier on this month, nor do you think that remoaner is an insult, even though it's a far more pejorative term. Hypocrisy and faux outrage never looks good.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=65

(and before you try to dredge up posts of mine in retaliation - I freely and unashamedly use the term "brexshitter")
Remoaner is a description, not an insult. It describes those who voted remain and have moaned relentlessly about the referendum result. Remainer + Moaner = Remoaner. If you do both those things you are by definition a Remoaner.

If I call you deluded or stuck in the 1950s please feel free to call me insulting.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:55
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And three out of four of the network operators has a history of needing to be dragged kicking and screaming into lowering those prices by the EU. So anyone who thinks that this won't change is deluded. The remaining network operator might keep things the same, as they are trying to lower roaming costs to all countries, not just EU ones.

A lot of brexiters are pretty deluded so this is not surprising
I presume that Europeans visiting the UK will have charges increased accordingly?
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:57
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Holidays aren't the only reason people travel to Europe.
Quite.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:59
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I presume that Europeans visiting the UK will have charges increased accordingly?
Maybe, maybe not. The decider is what the UK networks set their wholesale charges at - but roaming has been such a racket, that the wholesale costs and the retail costs have no real bearing on each other. They certainly have no bearing on the actual costs to provide the service.

e.g. when Vodafone used to charge you £5/MB or 50p/minute for roaming in France, they aren't paying anything close to that to the French network, and Vodafone + the French network don't need to invest anything close to the wholesale price to set up the roaming infrastructure.

They aren't losing money by offering free/cheap roaming. Especially when you're using a foreign network that is owned by the same parent company as your UK network. Three have said this for years, and put their money where their mouth is by offering free roaming in countries where Three owns a local network, such as in Ireland, Italy, Austria and Hong Kong
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:19
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So, what currently happens if you roam in a non EU/EEA country?

Oh yes, you get charged a fair bit *unless you buy a bundle* - but of course everyone roams exclusively in the EU, I forgot..... *rollseyes*
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:30
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Brexiters, once again, displaying that they're stuck in the 1950s and want to drag everyone else back there

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They don't have any interest in travelling outside the UK either. Why am I not surprised?
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:37
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Hang on a minute - I travel to Spain and Cyprus on holidays and I'm as hard-Brexit as they come. I don't hate the countries, just the political union. There are more important things about it than your mobile phone bill.

If my roaming costs start to rise, I'll leave my phone switched off when I'm there. Simple.

Once again I'll ask - what currently happens when you roam in the USA for example? India? Australia?
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:38
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So, what currently happens if you roam in a non EU/EEA country?

Oh yes, you get charged a fair bit *unless you buy a bundle* - but of course everyone roams exclusively in the EU, I forgot..... *rollseyes*
So it's fine to get charged through the nose while in the EU cos it happens elsewhere? Brexiter logic.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:39
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I imagine most Brexit voters don't even know how to use a mobile phone, let alone will go abroad with one (why would they want to go to those dirty foreign countries after all?), so they won't be bothered. They still have their own post-office rented telephones with dial!
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:39
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They don't have any interest in travelling outside the UK either. Why am I not surprised?
I doubt they have any interest in owning a mobile phone either. Or even have the hang of touch tone. What's wrong with turning the little handle and talking to an operator? They seem to want everything else to return to the 50s after all.

Presenting... the brexit phone!
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:41
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So it's fine to get charged through the nose while in the EU cos it happens elsewhere? Brexiter logic.
I'm not going to argue about it - it's not a big deal.
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