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Old 31-12-2016, 22:42
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I doubt they have any interest in owning a mobile phone either. Or even have the hang of touch tone. What's wrong with turning the little handle and talking to an operator? They seem to want everything else to return to the 50s after all.

Presenting... the brexit phone!
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Wow.... bitter much?
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:45
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This thread is hilarious first world problems.

Oh noooo roaming charges to increase wtf.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:48
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They don't have any interest in travelling outside the UK either. Why am I not surprised?
You have personally asked over 17 million people whether they want to travel outside the UK and they have all said "no"?

Wow.

(I know you didn't ask them all because you didn't ask me or my mates - all of us are going abroad next year, and we're all Brexitters).
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:56
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They don't have any interest in travelling outside the UK either. Why am I not surprised?
I have travelled the world quite widely in my six decades, I just didn't think cheaper phone calls was a good reason to stay in the EU.
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:09
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I doubt they have any interest in owning a mobile phone either. Or even have the hang of touch tone. What's wrong with turning the little handle and talking to an operator? They seem to want everything else to return to the 50s after all.

Presenting... the brexit phone!
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...31d9a277df.jpg
Scuse me, but where can I get a Brexit phone, presume it will have this new fangled touch tone (whatever that may be) don't want one of them things you have to pick a number then turn it round, think they are called a dial, will I be able to take it to Europe??
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:17
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A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.

Travellers guides will only give info on the most visited tourist sites


Smartphones' mapping and internet abilities greatly enhance travelling to places you don't know, not just for checking your facebook or twitter
Brexiters, once again, displaying that they're stuck in the 1950s and want to drag everyone else back there

My phone provides me with up to date information, sometimes from people who actually live there. Not from someone who once spent two weeks there for Lonely Planet years ago. It also provides me with turn-by-turn directions and a way to call for help if I need it. I can also get up to date information on public transport times

A bloody A to Z doesn't do that. I don't get out a paper map when I'm in an unfamilar UK city, and there's an obvious reason why I don't...
Just download the maps for offline use before you go - cheaper than using the internet, and won't drain your battery as fast, and no need to worry about reception.
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:23
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This has nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with (foreign owned) phone companies looking to rip the British phone user off!
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:55
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A little pocket map isn't always a great deal of use when wandering around a small street in Paris or Berlin looking for a small restaurant you only know the name of.
Well if you know it's name either someone can tell you where it is or before you go print your map or make a note of it. It always worked up until the last few years and I expect it still does. Or you could get a more detailed map to start with. It's called preparation.

A bloody A to Z doesn't do that. I don't get out a paper map when I'm in an unfamilar UK city, and there's an obvious reason why I don't...
Er...why not? It's worked for probably centuries! How did anyone ever manage to travel in this country or anywhere in the the world for the last 1000 years or so? You're not suggesting this generation are less able in that respect than every previous one, are you?

They don't have any interest in travelling outside the UK either. Why am I not surprised?
I love Europe and have travelled extensively there over the years, usually armed only with guide books and maps. I only got lost a couple of times

This has nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with (foreign owned) phone companies looking to rip the British phone user off!
Sssshhhh...don't say that, it upsets them...everything bad is because of Brexit, don't you know...
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:11
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Sounds like it might be pretty terrible if the European mobile networks choose to do this.
They haven't done this for Switzerland or Norway, so I fail to see why the UK would be made a special case. This is pure conjecture.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:30
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This thread is hilarious first world problems.

Oh noooo roaming charges to increase wtf.
Only the poor people will care. Up until a couple of years ago, while in the EU we were all hammered for roaming in the UK.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:34
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Well its good you aren't bothered about this - however why not think a bit further afield than your own situation? Smart phones are fully integrated in how we live these days - massive increases in data costs will negatively affect many people.
You can't blame your phone for it being fully integrated with the way you live while on holiday. That's you. Nothing to do with anyone else.
It's a smart phone, your choice.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:37
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I imagine most Brexit voters don't even know how to use a mobile phone, let alone will go abroad with one (why would they want to go to those dirty foreign countries after all?), so they won't be bothered. They still have their own post-office rented telephones with dial!
That's right. Brexit voters are thick. They're probably so poor that they can't afford to go on holiday abroad anyway. Ha ha ha.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:18
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Well if you know it's name either someone can tell you where it is or before you go print your map or make a note of it. It always worked up until the last few years and I expect it still does. Or you could get a more detailed map to start with. It's called preparation.



Er...why not? It's worked for probably centuries! How did anyone ever manage to travel in this country or anywhere in the the world for the last 1000 years or so? You're not suggesting this generation are less able in that respect than every previous one, are you?
Yet more fuel added to the fire that is "Brexiters are backwards and want to drag everyone backwards with them".

Just download the maps for offline use before you go - cheaper than using the internet, and won't drain your battery as fast, and no need to worry about reception.
This is a rubbish solution though - and you've forgotten all the other reasons why a person might want to use a phone, as a phone.

This has nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with (foreign owned) phone companies looking to rip the British phone user off!
Vodafone is a publicly traded British company. EE is owned by a publicly traded British company. Foreign ownership has nothing to do with rip off roaming charges, though for what it's worth, the one company that has been trying to lower them for years is in fact owned by a Hong Kong conglomerate. Your xenophobia is irrelevant.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:23
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Sounds like it might be pretty terrible if the European mobile networks choose to do this.
Three.

You're data plan with them fully covers you across a huge swaths of Europe and the wider world and has done for several years now. This sort of thing doesn't need a free trade agreement it simply needs mobile phone providers to make deals with each other.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:41
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Three.

You're data plan with them fully covers you across a huge swaths of Europe and the wider world and has done for several years now. This sort of thing doesn't need a free trade agreement it simply needs mobile phone providers to make deals with each other.
Except for the US and the EU, most of the countries 3 offers cheap roaming in are countries where 3 owns a local network. They haven't been doing it for that long either, though it does predate the EU's rule changes.

This sort of thing patently does need international action, given that the pricing was stuck in the 90s and hasn't moved, even though the network operators already have negotiated "deals" to make sure that they pay as little as possible to the other network

It astounds me how certain people are so opposed to progress.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:46
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Well its good you aren't bothered about this - however why not think a bit further afield than your own situation? Smart phones are fully integrated in how we live these days - massive increases in data costs will negatively affect many people.
So what? A smart phone is not an essential of life. Use them elsewhere in the world outside of the EU and roaming charges will be a small fortune. But then that's up to the phone user whether or not they want to incur those costs.

And besides, Brussels should never have meddled in EU roaming charges anyway, because all that happened is that that lost revenue started being recouped via other means by phone companies by increasing the cost of other things.

You want to use your phone elsewhere in the world? Cough up for the charges.

It's quite incredible that something like 'roaming charges' seems to be being put forward as a reason that we should have voted to remain in the EU.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:14
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So on top of holidays already costing far more due to Sterling being in the toilet, using our phones abroad is going to shoot up,

The EU has done a great job of stamping down on phone companies ripping us off when in other EU countries - don't expect Theresa May's government to be so tough on the likes of Vodafone post Brexit.

Its somewhat depressing how more expensive life is going to become post Brexit, for little discernible benefit.
You could buy a spare payg sim that would work in the EU. That's what I do when I visit countries outside of the EU.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:27
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You could buy a spare payg sim that would work in the EU. That's what I do when I visit countries outside of the EU.
I expect they know that, but just want to go down the "woe are we" for leaving the EU, route.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:47
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You brexiters really are spiteful.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:58
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Blimey, where's Nick1966 on his fav topic.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:22
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Holiday in Britain and don't phone anybody. "Problem" solved. You can thank me later. Cheers
This is part of a developing post referendum theme.

The failure by those who voted to leave to accept responsibility for their actions.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:36
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You could buy a spare payg sim that would work in the EU. That's what I do when I visit countries outside of the EU.
Or we could have an agreement that brings the cost of roaming down, allowing seamless use of the same phone and same number no matter where you travel in the EU, by forcing retail prices to actually follow wholesale costs.

That is a major reason why a truly European success story - the GSM mobile standard - was developed (as each country used their own, totally incompatible mobile system).

Reasons why buying new SIMs for every country is a crap and impractical idea have already been discussed in this thread. Brexiters have always had a problem imagining the big picture and the long term implications of their suggestions, though - just a shame that we'll actually have to experience it in real life, rather than as rants on an online forum.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:44
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Or we could have an agreement that brings the cost of roaming down, allowing seamless use of the same phone and same number no matter where you travel in the EU, by forcing retail prices to actually follow wholesale costs.

That is a major reason why a truly European success story - the GSM mobile standard - was developed (as each country used their own, totally incompatible mobile system).

Reasons why buying new SIMs for every country is a crap and impractical idea have already been discussed in this thread. Brexiters have always had a problem imagining the big picture and the long term implications of their suggestions, though - just a shame that we'll actually have to experience it in real life, rather than as rants on an online forum.
Indeed every suggestion given by Brexiteers as an alternative to the current EU governed roaming charges system is more expensive and more complicated than what we currently have. Why can't they just admit this?
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:48
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Holiday in Britain and don't phone anybody. "Problem" solved. You can thank me later. Cheers
Here's a thought not everyone wants to live within your narrow confines.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:49
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Love how everyone believes these stories.
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