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Old 01-01-2017, 12:03
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Only 'phone addicts who cannot walk down the road without a 'phone clutched in their hand. On holiday far more interesting activities are available. And such people will just have to add the 'phone costs to their holiday or holiday in the UK.
Hear hear

It beggars belief that people are whining about mobile phone and foreign holiday costs increasing due to Brexit!!
If thats all you have to worry about then think yourselves lucky oh and by the way, its not COMPULSARY to have to go abroad for your holiday! and if you are that sad that you can't live without your foreign holidays each year then as Annsyre says, you'll just have to budget for it!
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:07
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Indeed every suggestion given by Brexiteers as an alternative to the current EU governed roaming charges system is more expensive and more complicated than what we currently have. Why can't they just admit this?
Isn't that true about everything brexit-related?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:09
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Love how everyone believes these stories.
Like how people beleived the stories about £350 million a week for the NHS. And how millions of Turks were about to head here. And how the EU were going to roll over and give us a brilliant deal and exactly what we wanted...
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:19
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Isn't that true about everything brexit-related?
Will leaving the EU lead to an increase in mobile roaming charges ?
Why is the UK leaving the EU ?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:28
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Or we could have an agreement that brings the cost of roaming down, allowing seamless use of the same phone and same number no matter where you travel in the EU, by forcing retail prices to actually follow wholesale costs.

That is a major reason why a truly European success story - the GSM mobile standard - was developed (as each country used their own, totally incompatible mobile system).

Reasons why buying new SIMs for every country is a crap and impractical idea have already been discussed in this thread. Brexiters have always had a problem imagining the big picture and the long term implications of their suggestions, though - just a shame that we'll actually have to experience it in real life, rather than as rants on an online forum.
It's not crap. It's always worked well for me when I've been abroad. Give it a go, you'll be surprised how easy it is.

Why would you need a separate sim for every EU country, if the GSM mobile standard is so good across the EU?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:33
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Brexiters, once again, displaying that they're stuck in the 1950s and want to drag everyone else back there

My phone provides me with up to date information, sometimes from people who actually live there. Not from someone who once spent two weeks there for Lonely Planet years ago. It also provides me with turn-by-turn directions and a way to call for help if I need it. I can also get up to date information on public transport times

A bloody A to Z doesn't do that. I don't get out a paper map when I'm in an unfamilar UK city, and there's an obvious reason why I don't...
Stuck in the 1950's? Says the person who is incapable of changing a sim card?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:34
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Don't take your phone on holiday and enjoy the break from technology as well as the place you have paid good money to go and see.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:34
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Hear hear

It beggars belief that people are whining about mobile phone and foreign holiday costs increasing due to Brexit!!
If thats all you have to worry about then think yourselves lucky oh and by the way, its not COMPULSARY to have to go abroad for your holiday! and if you are that sad that you can't live without your foreign holidays each year then as Annsyre says, you'll just have to budget for it!
That's a pretty depressing viewpoint.

Brexit potentially makes people worse off or reduces their standard of living and you think it beggars belief that people might find that a tad disappointing?
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:38
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That's a pretty depressing viewpoint.

Brexit potentially makes people worse off or reduces their standard of living and you think it beggars belief that people might find that a tad disappointing?
Oh dear .. a mobile phone charge on holiday will somehow reduce someones standard of living ?!
I think I've heard it all now.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:40
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That's a pretty depressing viewpoint.

Brexit potentially makes people worse off or reduces their standard of living and you think it beggars belief that people might find that a tad disappointing?
Buying a second sim card is unlikely to make someone who travels abroad regularly have a worse standard of living.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:45
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"It won't affect me, so why should I care about it" seems to be the Brexiter mantra here. Seems a typical right-wing viewpoint. All me, me, me. Screw everyone else.

Oh, and let's sneer at the people who it will affect. That's the perfect way to win people round.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:47
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"It won't affect me, so why should I care about it" seems to be the Brexiter mantra here. Seems a typical right-wing viewpoint.
It will affect me. My family travel to Europe several times a year, as we have a villa in Spain. However I'll just buy a new sim card if roaming does rise significantly. I suggest you do the same.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:48
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Oh dear .. a mobile phone charge on holiday will somehow reduce someones standard of living ?!
I think I've heard it all now.
Well yeh it would as you'd be getting less for the same price. But more to the point if you enjoy travelling to Europe and then can suddenly no longer to afford to do so that would impact your standard of living. Yes it may sound like you were lucky and privileged in the first place but it doesn't make it any less true.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:50
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I expect they know that, but just want to go down the "woe are we" for leaving the EU, route.
Going by some on this forum I don't think they do know. The right-wing remainers seem to be unable to think outside the box, simple solutions for simple problems....and I thought Brexiters were thick!
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:50
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I love Europe and have travelled extensively there over the years, usually armed only with guide books and maps. I only got lost a couple of times

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Me, too. And getting lost is part of the fun. I'd never have found that wonderful Irish pub in Venice if I'd not got lost....

This is part of a developing post referendum theme.

The failure by those who voted to leave to accept responsibility for their actions.
I accept full responsibility for roaming charges post-Brexit. Happy now?

Here's a thought not everyone wants to live within your narrow confines.
As you know nothing about me, where I have travelled or what I have done, I find your impertinent assumption that I have "narrow confines" breathtakingly presumptious. Please apologise forthwith.



Buying a second sim card is unlikely to make someone who travels abroad regularly have a worse standard of living.
It will in remainerland. How lovely for them to have no other concerns or problems. But it won't last, sadly. Wait till they grow up.....
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:54
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Well since the likes of Three can scrap roaming charges in many countries outside of the EU (USA, Aus etc) as well as within (before these laws have come into force) then I'm personally of the opinion that this is a non-story.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:03
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Going by some on this forum I don't think they do know. The right-wing remainers seem to be unable to think outside the box, simple solutions for simple problems....and I thought Brexiters were thick!
I'm sure many of them are capable of rational thought, but you are rather ruining their turning of the calendar hissy fit by coming up with sensible, simple solutions.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:03
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"It won't affect me, so why should I care about it" seems to be the Brexiter mantra here. Seems a typical right-wing viewpoint. All me, me, me. Screw everyone else.

Oh, and let's sneer at the people who it will affect. That's the perfect way to win people round.
Old inflicting on young backward thinking is going to cause longer term issues for UK. It has always been the young who have led country with new forward thinking. The young won't stand by and see their future taken from them.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:07
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Don't take your phone on holiday and enjoy the break from technology as well as the place you have paid good money to go and see.
Does that go for books, packs of cards etc too?
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:13
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Originally Posted by Granny McSmith;85017454I
accept full responsibility for roaming charges post-Brexit. Happy now?...
Not quite.

In practical terms, in what form should you accept the responsibility for post-Brexit increased roaming charges ? Details please.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:13
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Old inflicting on young backward thinking is going to cause longer term issues for UK. It has always been the young who have led country with new forward thinking. The young won't stand by and see their future taken from them.
If the young couldn't be bothered to get off their backside and vote on June 23rd, I don't see them doing much about it now.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:17
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Not quite.

In practical terms, in what form should you accept the responsibility for post-Brexit increased roaming charges ? Details please.
How about you calculate the increased roaming costs you pay each time you are in the EU and divide it by 17million and send them all a bill. It will of course be subject to unequivocal evidence you voted to remain and a fair usage assessment.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:30
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How about you calculate the increased roaming costs you pay each time you are in the EU and divide it by 17million and send them all a bill. It will of course be subject to unequivocal evidence you voted to remain and a fair usage assessment.
That's an interesting approach and one that deserves further exploration as part of Mrs May Brexit negotiations.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:46
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If the young couldn't be bothered to get off their backside and vote on June 23rd, I don't see them doing much about it now.
Bit patronising.

First, because there continues to be a significant proportion of younger voters who say that they are unhappy with the result of the referendum and want to be heard, and one of the key arguments that has been made in answer to them is that they should have bothered to vote if they cared that much.

“And, second, because the government chose not to give the right to vote to 16- and 17-year-olds in the referendum...

They say the assumption that a majority of young people who were registered did not bother to vote can be laid to rest. “While young people voted a little bit less than average, they were probably quite close to the national average (only 8% below according to our survey).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7129181.html
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:08
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Don't take your phone on holiday and enjoy the break from technology as well as the place you have paid good money to go and see.
I take my phone abroad with me on holiday for use in case of emergencies but keep in turned off most of the time.

However, as other have pointed out, people don't just go abroad on holiday. Many leave the country regularly for business trips (you can't do everything by Skype). I used to manage the phone account for a team of sales and customer service reps who would spend about 50% of their time travelling around Europe. They had to be constantly in touch with home office, customers and each other and their bills were eye-watering.
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