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So it's fine to get charged through the nose while in the EU cos it happens elsewhere? Brexiter logic.
I'd hardly call that getting charged through the nose. Most days I got by without even using it as there's wifi everywhere. |
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Yet more fuel added to the fire that is "Brexiters are backwards and want to drag everyone backwards with them".
This is a rubbish solution though - and you've forgotten all the other reasons why a person might want to use a phone, as a phone. And if you want to use a phone, pay the relevant charges like you do everywhere else in the world. It's not exactly rocket science. Quote:
This is part of a developing post referendum theme.
The failure by those who voted to leave to accept responsibility for their actions. Quote:
Old inflicting on young backward thinking is going to cause longer term issues for UK. It has always been the young who have led country with new forward thinking. The young won't stand by and see their future taken from them.
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Or the failure of those who voted remain to accept that in a democracy you have to accept the result and who come across as whiny and arrogant.
Those who voted to leave accept the responsibility. As a remainer, I have the option of being whiny and arrogant For those who voted to leave, this option is not available. Process and plans are leave supporters' priority. |
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Perhaps they could grow up enough to realise how easy they have it compared to most generations before them if the only problem they have to moan about is roaming charges.[/QUOTE] That is the sum of it I can recall spreading butter thickly on my slice of bread and rolling my eyes when my parents said that during rationing that would have been all the butter allowed for a week. It was an observation as opposed to a telling off. I now realise exactly what they meant. |
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Hang on a minute - I travel to Spain and Cyprus on holidays and I'm as hard-Brexit as they come. I don't hate the countries, just the political union. There are more important things about it than your mobile phone bill.
If my roaming costs start to rise, I'll leave my phone switched off when I'm there. Simple. Once again I'll ask - what currently happens when you roam in the USA for example? India? Australia? Just one example; but we're increasing the use of our phones way beyond just chat + text, and many will be caught out. The telecoms industy will have us by the proverbials, a monopoly on the way we do things! Of course another answer is to buy a phone and card over there (as you would with your examples, USA/India/Australia) to keep bills down. But that's a bother, somethign we didn't have to worry about pre-Brexit. But there's always the joy of seeing a Brexiter's face when they do travel abroad (one will, at some stage) and accidentally leave their roaming switch on. But, never mind, the £500 bill is worth it as you've got control...
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If the young couldn't be bothered to get off their backside and vote on June 23rd, I don't see them doing much about it now.
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Clearly that's absolutely fine. But - there's always a but - wherever you go now the chances are you will require e-ticketing. Go for more than a week and you have to print off your Ryanair ticket abroad. Now if it comes to downloading your ticket to your phone - to show at the gate, how much will that cost?
Just one example; but we're increasing the use of our phones way beyond just chat + text, and many will be caught out. The telecoms industy will have us by the proverbials, a monopoly on the way we do things! Of course another answer is to buy a phone and card over there (as you would with your examples, USA/India/Australia) to keep bills down. But that's a bother, somethign we didn't have to worry about pre-Brexit. But there's always the joy of seeing a Brexiter's face when they do travel abroad (one will, at some stage) and accidentally leave their roaming switch on. But, never mind, the £500 bill is worth it as you've got control... ![]() |
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Clearly that's absolutely fine. But - there's always a but - wherever you go now the chances are you will require e-ticketing. Go for more than a week and you have to print off your Ryanair ticket abroad. Now if it comes to downloading your ticket to your phone - to show at the gate, how much will that cost?
Just one example; but we're increasing the use of our phones way beyond just chat + text, and many will be caught out. The telecoms industy will have us by the proverbials, a monopoly on the way we do things! Of course another answer is to buy a phone and card over there (as you would with your examples, USA/India/Australia) to keep bills down. But that's a bother, somethign we didn't have to worry about pre-Brexit. But there's always the joy of seeing a Brexiter's face when they do travel abroad (one will, at some stage) and accidentally leave their roaming switch on. But, never mind, the £500 bill is worth it as you've got control... ![]() |
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...and a few years ago mobiles didn"t exist so couldn't be used. Somehow us thickies...
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This has nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with (foreign owned) phone companies looking to rip the British phone user off!
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Perhaps we should set up some kind of regulatory body which prevents phone companies ripping off British consumers, we could call it the European Union or something.
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If EU carriers lose their income for roaming charges then they might try to make up for it by raising their prices for domestic customers meaning everyone pays a bit more even if they don't use their phone abroad.
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It's not crap. It's always worked well for me when I've been abroad. Give it a go, you'll be surprised how easy it is.
Why would you need a separate sim for every EU country, if the GSM mobile standard is so good across the EU? I wonder if you really don't know the answer to your question, but here's the answer just in case you weren't keeping up: because the mobile operators charge rip-off roaming rates. Quote:
Stuck in the 1950's? Says the person who is incapable of changing a sim card?
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Good idea - as long as we don't have to have political union with them,
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obey their rules on immigration
Given that we can't cope with illegal immigration from non-EU states (and by cope, I mean finding and deporting them), then perhaps we should look here at home for the cause of the problem. But that would be far too difficult for the average Brexiter to accept - far easier to blame someone else. Quote:
or have our courts subject to their court
We'll still be indirectly subject to them whether you like it or not. All the things that you buy and consume will be built or designed to EU regulations, not UK ones. I do hope that you know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU... |
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But there's always the joy of seeing a Brexiter's face when they do travel abroad (one will, at some stage) and accidentally leave their roaming switch on. But, never mind, the £500 bill is worth it as you've got control... ![]() They'll probably want to blame "rip off Britain" for their high roaming bill. Or the EU for some reason. Not themselves. |
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If EU carriers lose their income for roaming charges then they might try to make up for it by raising their prices for domestic customers meaning everyone pays a bit more even if they don't use their phone abroad.
Some people are too thick to see how that works mind you. |
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As discussed many posts ago, problems with changing the SIM include having to unlock your phone (if not unlocked), providing everyone with your number, expecting them to pay international call/SMS rates, and of course repeating the process for every country you visit.
I wonder if you really don't know the answer to your question, but here's the answer just in case you weren't keeping up: because the mobile operators charge rip-off roaming rates. I have a pile of SIMs on my desk and a dual SIM phone, thanks. I'm capable of it. i'm just telling you why it's a poor idea, and why the EU is trying to pursue lower roaming costs. A dual sim phone would be ideal for those who travel abroad regularly, good suggestion. Companies such as ee do international payg sims at very good rates. |
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We don't (or didn't have to). We were given an opt out from that.
The rules that the average tabloid reader has no clue about? The ones that state that the UK is free to turf EU immigrants out when they aren't in work and do not have the means to support themselves? Given that we can't cope with illegal immigration from non-EU states (and by cope, I mean finding and deporting them), then perhaps we should look here at home for the cause of the problem. But that would be far too difficult for the average Brexiter to accept - far easier to blame someone else. The courts that we voluntarily agreed to adhere to. We'll still be indirectly subject to them whether you like it or not. All the things that you buy and consume will be built or designed to EU regulations, not UK ones. I do hope that you know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU... You do know there is a European Court of Justice, don't you? |
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Can't wait for a Brexiter to tell me how wonderful it is that he/she now has to arrange to get a visa every time they want to visit "Europe", get a SIM card, get one of those lovely A-Z maps that the old farts keep telling us to use instead of Google Maps, etc.
They'll probably want to blame "rip off Britain" for their high roaming bill. Or the EU for some reason. Not themselves. You can get maps for free on your phone , but if you really think you need to use your phone in between the multiple free wifi spots across the EU then i guess you could suffer the £1.66 or so for a bolt on. |
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"We" have now voluntarily decided we don't want to be part of any of it, anyway, so it's all irrelevant.
That means it did not cover the single market, freedom of movement, and all the rest of it. Brexiters can't claim that their opinion is valid in terms of our future involvement here. Quote:
You do know there is a European Court of Justice, don't you?
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The proposed visa I read about was valid for 5 years, so not quite "every time"
You can get maps for free on your phone , but if you really think you need to use your phone in between the multiple free wifi spots across the EU then i guess you could suffer the £1.66 or so for a bolt on. |
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#123 |
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Why should I pay extra for something I already have? Even £2 a day adds up very quickly. My contract is only £15 a month - one week in "Europe" and my bill has doubled.
Besides it's not something you already have. Your contract doesnt extend to other companies infrastructure. Their customers don't want you clogging up their network without paying |
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Genuine question (to which I don't know the answer)
Do these increased charges already apply in non-EU countries such as Switzerland? |
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It's chump change ya tight wad.
Besides it's not something you already have. Your contract doesnt extend to other companies infrastructure. Their customers don't want you clogging up their network without paying My network operator already pays the foreign one a fair, profitable rate for my usage. The problem is that my network operator then turns around and charges me an order of magnitude more as a retail cost. The EU is simply trying to reduce that. It's not "freeloading" or "clogging up the network". Especially when it comes to data, where even people on unlimited data in the UK will have only a limited amount of data while roaming. |
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