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If you are on business abroad, you will more than likely be able to claim your expenses.
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So where does the money come from to pay those expenses? Don't tell me... the magic money tree!
Alternatively, businesses will issue each employee with an additional phone that has an EU Sim Card in it so that the phones they use abroad are different to the ones used in the UK. It really isn't rocket science. |
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If your employer wants to continue doing business in the EU, IF roaming charges are increased, then yes, it should expect to pay more. For no good reason at all? Well, how about as a result of a democratic process for which a majority verdict was reached? Do you remember democracy? It used to count for something in this country.
I remember democracy. It died in June 2016, when a band of idiots convinced an even larger group of idiots to vote for something that was against their own interests, nearly entirely on lies and spin. Annoyingly, just enough of those idiots voted to get their own way. Not a huge majority, it was about as thin as it gets. Quote:
Also, it would demonstrate to Brexiters the reasons why they voted leave. The EU being pathetic and punishing the UK visitors who spend billions each year into the EU economy!
Unless the EU mandates that EU network operators must charge more for roaming, then it's nothing to do with them. Especially when we're talking about the now "sovereign" UK telecoms industry. What will likely happen is that the network operators will raise prices without government or EU input. And like I said, the wholesale costs (charged between network operators) is a fraction of the retail cost. It's entirely possible that EU network operators might decide (on their own) to keep prices low while UK operators raise theirs. |
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You're not getting it... *why* should my employer pay more given that the network operators are just ripping people off? "solutions" like multiple phones and SIM cards just don't wash.
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If your employer wants to continue doing business in the EU, IF roaming charges are increased, then yes, it should expect to pay more. For no good reason at all? Well, how about as a result of a democratic process for which a majority verdict was reached? Do you remember democracy? It used to count for something in this country.
Also, it would demonstrate to Brexiters the reasons why they voted leave. The EU being pathetic and punishing the UK visitors who spend billions each year into the EU economy! Democracy is about allowing others with differing view to air those views without fear of retribution. Reading through the many threads on DS since the referendum vote it could be argued that Thursday 23 June 2016 was the day democracy died, because many now seem to believe it is perfectly acceptable to shout down those who have views that differ from their own... The only reason roaming charges within the EU were initially harmonised and, over time, reduced is because of regulation imposed on the mobile carriers. If such regulations hasn't have been introduced there would have been no reductions brought in by the networks as it is such a cash cow for them. Therefore once we leave the EU it would be up to the UK government to impose regulations forcing the mobile network operators to harmonise their charges in-line with the EU otherwise there is only one way the prices will go, and it won't be down. However given the government's track record I can't see that happening any time soon. |
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and team remain look at what "might" happen and assume it "will" happen
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and team remain look at what "might" happen and assume it "will" happen
Pesky facts, eh? |
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Team remain look at how much effort it has taken the EU to get the network operators to shut down a major revenue stream, and assume that it will be brought right back up once there is no regulation preventing it.
Pesky facts, eh? Have you been told that they won't? |
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How do you know that the UK Government won't make legislation regarding roaming charges from UK network providers?
Have you been told that they won't? The UK government tends not to do consumer-friendly stuff, especially after sufficient lobbying. |
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Team remain look at how much effort it has taken the EU to get the network operators to shut down a major revenue stream, and assume that it will be brought right back up once there is no regulation preventing it.
Pesky facts, eh? |
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I won't be holding my breath, just as I won't be holding my breath on regional development funding, farming subsidies, trade deals, and all the stuff that we're expected to 'wait and see' about.
The UK government tends not to do consumer-friendly stuff, especially after suffi panic?cient lobbying. |
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Still waiting for you to explain how it's unprofessional?
Or... "I'm in France and Spain after that, just call me if you need anything" Hmm... Quote:
But......all EU legislation is being transferred over to UK law in the Great Repeal Act.So, unless a Government repeals the mobile roaming charges legislation it will still be relevant to the UK. Why does nobody ever take this into consideration before getting into a negativity driven bout of unwarranted anger?
Such naivety. |
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"My employer / I am too cheap to pay overblown roaming costs. So from the periods of 6 Mar to 13 Mar from 9am to 5pm, please spend your money and not mine by making an international call to this number. After that date, until the 21st of Mar, I will be in another country, and you will need to pay even more to call this other number".
Or... "I'm in France and Spain after that, just call me if you need anything" Hmm... ... because that is exactly the sort of legislation that will be tested in court multiple times before anyone pays any attention to it. Such naivety. |
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So, EU supporters want EU laws and then when it is transferred identically into UK law these same people will test it in court? Please elaborate. Naivety doesn't come into it. It is trying to understand why guys like you keep inventing hypothetical barriers when in the current moment of time, there is no need to do.
A law saying "it's UK law now" is going to be tested on multiple fronts. There's also the issue of costs. Let's say that EU operators did hike up wholesale rates. Would UK operators be expected to subsidise it? They pay £5/MB to the foreign network, but can't charge anything to the customer. Yeah, that's going to be tolerated. As is typical with Brexiters, they seem to think that everything has an oversimplifed solution. Whether it's a law or whether it's "buy another SIM card" |
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How do you know that the UK Government won't make legislation regarding roaming charges from UK network providers?
Currently someone with a French SIM card gets better mobile coverage in the UK than a British customer as their phone will always use the strongest signal regardless of which network it is from. |
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"My employer / I am too cheap to pay overblown roaming costs. So from the periods of 6 Mar to 13 Mar from 9am to 5pm, please spend your money and not mine by making an international call to this number. After that date, until the 21st of Mar, I will be in another country, and you will need to pay even more to call this other number".
Or... "I'm in France and Spain after that, just call me if you need anything" Hmm... ... because that is exactly the sort of legislation that will be tested in court multiple times before anyone pays any attention to it. Such naivety. |
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