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BBC News: 'Many wounded' in Istanbul nightclub attack, NYE
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ChickenWings
31-12-2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38481521

As expected, something has happened.

Seems at least two men entered the night club in fancy dress (Santa outfits) and began firing in to the crowd indiscriminately.

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5596

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7504046.html


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And a 12 year old girl is dead here in the UK after a NYE hit and run: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-38481454
thirstyelephant
31-12-2016
Oh dear
ChickenWings
31-12-2016
BBC now also showing breaking news alert for a 12 year old girl killed in a hit and run incident in Oldham, Manchester: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-38481454

Added link to first post.
ChickenWings
31-12-2016
BBC reporting that at least one of the attackers is apparently still alive and inside the club, potentially with hostages like in Paris last year
stargazer61
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by ChickenWings:
“BBC reporting that at least one of the attackers is apparently still alive and inside the club, potentially with hostages like in Paris last year ”

Bastards
Fairyprincess0
01-01-2017
Ive heard rumours that one attack went in dressed as Father christmas.... Sick ****.
ChickenWings
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Fairyprincess0:
“Ive heard rumours that one attack went in dressed as Father christmas.... Sick ****.”

Yes, attackers apparently wearing Santa costumes.

Not 100% sure how many people are involved now - original reports said 2 but now some reports suggest 3 - one dead, one who has ran away ripping off the Santa suit as he did (on the loose) and another potentially still inside the nightclub (contained but potential civilians still inside).
ChickenWings
01-01-2017
Update: Mayor suggests at least 35 dead, 40+ injured.

Not confirmed by emergency services though.
bluesdiamond
01-01-2017
Now reports 35 killed.

Sick.
stargazer61
01-01-2017
CNN Turkey are saying 35 dead .As are the BBC.

Horrifying, just horryfying
big bro geek
01-01-2017
At least 35 dead, expected to rise
bluesdiamond
01-01-2017
Kurdish connection?
For a religion of piece, Islam has produced a number of mass killers.

Assuming this Turd (sorry Kurd) is Islamic.
Fairyprincess0
01-01-2017
Awww.... I read they were just 'injured'. And even though i knew that'd change, id just hoped....
WhatJoeThinks
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Fairyprincess0:
“Ive heard rumours that one attack went in dressed as Father christmas.... Sick ****.”

Yeah, because committing mass murder by firing indiscriminately into a crowd is one thing, but doing it dressed as Father Christmas?! Makes my blood boil, it really does. The sick ****s!
zounds
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“CNN Turkey are saying 35 dead .As are the BBC.

Horrifying, just horryfying”

Just no let up is there. Sad news.
ChickenWings
01-01-2017
I think the reason first reports were quite conservative was that a large part of the club seems to be "open air" with large outside areas, thus leading some people to assuming people would be able to get away more easily.

It seems that was not necessarily the case, although potentially 600-800 in the club at the time.
stargazer61
01-01-2017
No matter how many police on the streets, no matter how many people are searched, it is simply impossible to stop lone attackers
InMyArms
01-01-2017
Hideous.

I was thinking to myself earlier tonight how vulnerable people are on New Years Eve, millions of people across the globe going to heavily populated areas. This could happen anywhere, they're armed what use is nightclub security? And the Police are too spread out to be efficient because there are so many potential targets.
Happ Hazzard
01-01-2017
This is getting beyond a joke now. How much more of this are we supposed to take?
ChickenWings
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“No matter how many police on the streets, no matter how many people are searched, it is simply impossible to stop lone attackers”

I think there should be a bigger argument for more armed police and more non-uniformed police officers at big events like this. High police presence doesn't prevent attacks it just makes them choose places with less PP and so the response time is higher, and thus the death toll is greater.

Why do we let people know where the police are at all times in bright coloured jackets? Make these people paranoid of everyone around them, that's what I say.

Imagine going to pull out a gun in a club, killing 3 or 4 people before a "passerby" who is actually an armed, plain clothes officer shoots you in the head.
Cheetah666
01-01-2017
Crap, what a start to 2017.
stargazer61
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by ChickenWings:
“I think there should be a bigger argument for more armed police and more non-uniformed police officers at big events like this. High police presence doesn't prevent attacks it just makes them choose places with less PP and so the response time is higher, and thus the death toll is greater.

Why do we let people know where the police are at all times in bright coloured jackets? Make these people paranoid of everyone around them, that's what I say.

Imagine going to pull out a gun in a club, killing 3 or 4 people before a "passerby" who is actually an armed, plain clothes officer shoots you in the head.”

Those are the police you see and are visible to reassure the public of their presence; there will be just as many plain clothes officers on duty. And there are simply too many potential targets to even possibly consider protecting: not just 'famous' places, but every hotel, hospital, department store, market, school, bus and train station, airport, etc., etc., etc. The list is endless. The key to stopping most major attacks is intelligence; lone attackers, especially those with no 'history' are almost impossible to stop
WhatJoeThinks
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by zounds:
“Just no let up is there. Sad news.”

Originally Posted by Happ Hazzard:
“This is getting beyond a joke now. How much more of this are we supposed to take?”

Try to keep things in perspective. World homicide rates remain steady at around 7 per 100,000 per year. In the UK it's around 500-600 per year. So the 'success rate' for terrorists and assorted mass murderers is actually very small, when you think about it. You can't stop people from murdering people, but you can certainly laugh in the face of 'terrorism'. In fact I highly recommend it. Most murderers who think they're fulfilling some sort of noble objective really are a joke, in my opinion.
Miss XYZ
01-01-2017
Terrible news yet again
francie
01-01-2017
Sad. Condolences to all those who have lost someone xxx
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