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Nigel Farage aka Mr.Brexit new year message |
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Well thank God not all MEP's are there to undermine it. How would it be expected to function efficiently with a bunch of rabble rousers spouting their puerile, xenophobic nonsense?
Farage has no plan. no ideas he is just hell bent on causing mayhem and disruption. He's an attention seeking, self centred, egotistical fool. |
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I have not said the EU is a dictatorship, I have said that its methods and its structure removes it too far from accountability to the electorates over whom it is acquiring more and more power. Its ultimate destination is an unaccountable bureaucracy. Which is not democratic freedom.
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I don't think there are many (if any) on here who purport to be 'diegard EU fans' as you put it. Personally it was something that I just took for granted in my life. It always just seemed like common sense - I never said or thought of it as perfect but in my mind it was 'fit for purpose'.
All this 'gravy train' - 'snouts in the trough' 'fat cats' nonsense was just that to me - NONSENSE. We were/are the fifth largest economy - we acheived that by being part of the EU - how that money was spent/distributed amongst regions/citizens in this country is down to the governments past and present and we have been sorely let down Turning everything upside down and inside out won't change anything on the 'home front'. I have always voted in local and general elections - I'll put my hands up and say that I never paid much attention to EU elections. Never have been a 'diehard EU fan' - but I now see how easily people/things can be manipulated and how the political outlook in this country can be threatened by an egotistical. opportunist wide boy and his ilk. People like Farage prey on peoples fears and prejudices - there is more to Herr Farage than wanting out of the EU - he is a dangerous individual and now that Trump has pulled the same stunt in the US with the disillusioned electorate I am worried for the future of this country and beyond. This is all NOTHING to do with leaving the EU - this is a threat to the world order as we know it. |
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Why would it want to be an unaccountable bureaucracy? Who would benefit from such a thing?
The fat cat elites on the gravy train with their snouts in the trough obviously. ![]() https://westlancashirerecord.files.w...ats-569766.jpg |
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Why would it want to be an unaccountable bureaucracy? Who would benefit from such a thing?
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Isn't it obvious?
The fat cat elites on the gravy train with their snouts in the trough obviously. ![]() https://westlancashirerecord.files.w...ats-569766.jpg |
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There is a long list of broadly failed politicians within the UK who have managed to be placed at the heart of Europe with remunerations to match. It is a step on the ladder that did not exist some years back (within living memory) and helps to maintain support in the upper political echelons through patronage and well reimbursed patronage at that.
Failed council CEOs just become failed council CEOs elsewhere in the country, with salaries that seem to outstrip anyone in the UK government. Ditto for idiots in the NHS. Utterly useless civil servants seem to keep being promoted and knighted (Lin effing Homer) MPs seem to be offered a peerage and thus a job for life, helping to screw up UK laws. with fat pensions for all. Why don't we start by cleaning our own house first? That will make an actual difference. |
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Yet we have our own gravy trains, that no one seems to want to get rid of.
Failed council CEOs just become failed council CEOs elsewhere in the country, with salaries that seem to outstrip anyone in the UK government. Ditto for idiots in the NHS. Utterly useless civil servants seem to keep being promoted and knighted (Lin effing Homer) MPs seem to be offered a peerage and thus a job for life, helping to screw up UK laws. with fat pensions for all. Why don't we start by cleaning our own house first? That will make an actual difference. |
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Why do we not just leave the organisation that is the transit depot for many you have just referred to. Kicking upstairs becomes much more difficult if you remove the top, and the most expensive, floor.
The far bigger problem are the people who get onto the UK gravy trains and never get off. |
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My New Year's message to Farage is the same as every other day of the year. It's two words long.
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Most lords and incompetent UK government officials don't actually go to the EU. Sure, there are some - the Kinnocks and Mandelsons of the world, but it's not an epidemic.
The far bigger problem are the people who get onto the UK gravy trains and never get off. But when its bad its wicked. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-nothing.html |
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My New Year's message to Farage is the same as every other day of the year. It's two words long.
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