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Defend the Daily Mail...
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chloeb
01-01-2017
I read it online , sometimes it's good sometimes it's hysterical (in both senses of the word)
It's love affair with the Kardashians is odd for a UK paper and nauseating
It does have some excellent columnists
CBFreak
01-01-2017
It gives me a laugh sometimes with how bad it is
jaycee331
01-01-2017
Man this is a hard one. I can only comment as far as the Mail Online because I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss with regard to paying for the paper copy, nor want to pay for yesterdays news. I'm going to be a little sick in my mouth whilst I type this out. Ok.. Good things:

They are pretty quick at picking up breaking news and putting up some kind of story whilst the BBC may be still stuck at "ticker" stage or just one paragraph.

Their website doesn't bitch about me running an adblocker. It's actually quite pleasing on the eye without the border adverts.

They do a good job at bringing together all news topics from the low brow to the high brow in one easy to find place.

They bring stories to my attention that I can then search for elsewhere to find out what really happened

They help me prepare for how to interact with society and the hard of thinking whom see a DM headline and believe it.

It's so bad, it's almost good.

/sarcasm on
I wouldn't have known that "a headline must always be taken in context with the story" (the Daily Mail's own words when challenged about misleading headlines, usually where the headline states something as a fact but then at the very end of the article it's qualified as an opinion, a "could", "is likely" or "maybe").

I would never have known that "curvy" is interchangeable with fat and "slim" is interchangeable with anorexic depending if they like you or not.

Without a daily visit to the Mail Online I would not know which Z-list celebs had been to buy a coffee, cake or avoid a puddle.

I would never have known what that little plastic triangle in the middle of a pizza box is for.

I wouldn't know the answer to whatever silly puzzle is sending the Internet "into meltdown".

I wouldn't have known that you can assess someone's entire state of mind and level of unhappiness/happiness from a pap photo and write 3 pages of total conjecture and speculation from it.

I wouldn't be able to keep up to date on whatever the latest uproar is from the permanently offended on social media (I don't use any, forums being my one exception).

I wouldn't know which celebs careers are falling so hard they have their agents paying the DM for promotion.

I wouldn't have learned how to pull a 10/10 sad face.

I wouldn't have known that professional journalistic trolling was a thing.

I wouldn't have known that vote rigging in comments was a thing.

I wouldn't have nown that duplicate paragraphs and typo's are nothing to be ashamed of.

I wouldn't have nown that duplicate paragraphs and typo's are nothing to be ashamed of.
/sarcasm off
Helix_
01-01-2017
Are we comparing it to the journalistic standards of the DS front page?

Politically biased.
Badly researched
Full of clickbait.
Factually inaccurate.

I could be talking about either.

So in its defense, I guess the DM at least isn't written by a bunch of 21 year old freelancers with no discernible talent......... or is it?
Dr. Claw
01-01-2017
the daily mail and their readers saved this elephant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-plight.html

meanwhile if you get rudely woken knock at the door and find yourself confronted by hired thugs who demand entry into your house good chances they've been sent by the bbc to collect licence fee money
Princessxxxx
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Dr. Claw:
“the daily mail and their readers saved this elephant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-plight.html

meanwhile if you get rudely woken knock at the door and find yourself confronted by hired thugs who demand entry into your house good chances they've been sent by the bbc to collect licence fee money”

The DM, a caring/sharing type of respected media outlet.
The beeb made me very angry re Sir Cliff.
Peter the Great
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Just because you disagree with my views about the DM does not necessitate in me getting a "dictionary fro xmas"

Like in RL, I'm an open and reasonble person and respond in a polite manner no matter what the provaction is. The DM is loved by me, my parents , my sibblings possibly becsue we are all hard wroking, property owning, tax paying decent people.”

What? You do need a dictionary if you think the Daily Mail is factual and balanced. You are coming out with the sort of hyperbole that the Daily Mail comes out with. You honestly believe that everybody who is hard working, a property owner and tax payer would love the Daily Mail? It also sounds to me that you think certain people are better than others? Many people can't afford to buy their home and I don't see how it makes you a better person?
Princessxxxx
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“What? You do need a dictionary if you think the Daily Mail is factual and balanced. You are coming out with the sort of hyperbole that the Daily Mail comes out with. You honestly believe that everybody who is hard working, a property owner and tax payer would love the Daily Mail? It also sounds to me that you think certain people are better than others? Many people can't afford to buy their home and I don't see how it makes you a better person?”

Dear Peter,

With respect, and I reiterate, I do not "needs a dictionary," and thsi is a clear fact.

Just because I agree with the DM and you don't, it does not make you better than me. I for the record am no better that you on this forum.

Some people call the Sun a "newspaer" I call it a joke, everyone is entitled to their views as we live and work in a free country.

HNY
Batch
01-01-2017
One of my favourite gross hypocrisies was made by my cousin, who turned her nose up at The Sun with comment and then went on to buy The Mail.

Still, I suppose it like fish or Mrs Brown's boys. Just because I think its only fit for the toilet doesn't mean others shouldn't enjoy it. It xenophobic slant does worry me, or rather the fact it caters for a section of society in that regard does.
Peter the Great
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“The DM, a caring/sharing type of respected media outlet.
The beeb made me very angry re Sir Cliff.”

The caring sharing outlet that showed so much respect after Stephen Gateley died?
eggchen
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Helix_:
“Are we comparing it to the journalistic standards of the DS front page?

Politically biased.
Badly researched
Full of clickbait.
Factually inaccurate.

I could be talking about either.

So in its defense, I guess the DM at least isn't written by a bunch of 21 year old freelancers with no discernible talent......... or is it?”

<winces>

Your cards are marked now sunshine
Whedonite
01-01-2017
I've always wondered why they think a woman can't walk down the street without "flaunting" or "showing off" something. They seem to think that heavily pregnant women are always flaunting their stomachs, as if they have the choice to completely hide their pregnancy without looking odd.
Peter the Great
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Dear Peter,

With respect, and I reiterate, I do not "needs a dictionary," and thsi is a clear fact.

Just because I agree with the DM and you don't, it does not make you better than me. I for the record am no better that you on this forum.

Some people call the Sun a "newspaer" I call it a joke, everyone is entitled to their views as we live and work in a free country.

HNY”

You are the one that is trying to suggest that certain people are better than others. If the Daily Mail was so balanced I wouldn't disagree with it. Not even most of it's readers would say the paper is balanced.
barbeler
01-01-2017
The Daily Mail's 'journalism' is the lowest of the low, although I grudgingly acknowledge that the people behind their website certainly know what they're doing.
blueblade
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by BelfastGuy125:
“Nobody ever claims the mail isn't popular. Popular doesn't mean good though. There's a lot of popular shite. Also you have to look a bit deeper into why it is so popular. For example how many people read the website just to see the outrageous articles and have a laugh?”

Originally Posted by BelfastGuy125:
“Nobody. Where did you get that? All I'm saying is popularity isn't a judge of quality.”

Well yes, you are, by direct implication, and you've just done it again.

Quality is subjective, popularity is concrete.
TelevisionUser
01-01-2017
Defend the Daily Mail...

No, cos it's a toxic populist rag.
Princessxxxx
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“Well yes, you are, by direct implication, and you've just done it again.

Quality is subjective, popularity is concrete.”

Dear Blueblade

I read your and the other posters comments earlier today and felt the other poster had the edge over you. However, you have come back with something that clearly defines the facts.
anne_666
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rekekah_Carter:
“The DM appears to be the paper that people love to hate, particularly on here. It seems to make them feel somewhat superior. ”

I hope we're all somewhat superior to the Mail.
It's the go to outlet for a tediously disruptive DS thread by presenting a false premise based on their fantastical versions of reality.

Originally Posted by himerus:
“The Mail is good at revealing abuses of power and corruption.”

The Mail is good at abusing it's power to corrupt by lying through it's pearly whites.
It's really really bad and worryingly obsessed with the need for weird guestimations of random property values and how much money their eternally much detested immigrants fleece out of the Government......
swingaleg
01-01-2017
I'm not Daily Mail Reader-ist but there's too many of 'em here
ianradioian
01-01-2017
Ive read it for many years; excellent writers and features. Good webpage too.
BlizzardUK
01-01-2017
I am pleased we have the DM as it acts as the opposite to the lefty papers. At least it gives people a choice out there for their views. I think people on the left fail to realise not everyone is like them or should be like them. The Sun and the Daily Mail are hated by the left and liberals but they are the top 2 selling newspapers in the UK. The left wing Independent couldn't even survive in print and had to close down.
CELT1987
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“The DM, a caring/sharing type of respected media outlet.
The beeb made me very angry re Sir Cliff.”

The 'caring' Daily Mail hate the disabled, unemployed and anyone who happens to be ill and needing help.
Zeropoint1
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by BlizzardUK:
“I am pleased with have the DM as it acts as the opposite to the lefty papers. At least it gives people a choice out there for their views. I think people on the left fail to realise not everyone is like them or should be like them. The Sun and the Daily Mail are hated by the left and liberals but they are the top 2 selling newspapers in the UK. The left wing Independent couldn't even survive in print and had to close down.”

This is exactly what I see from Guardian and Independent readers. They seem blinkered to the fact that not everybody thinks the same as them. This was most obvious after the last election and the EU referendum.

I'm not start that debate again just pointing out what I've seen.
Zeropoint1
01-01-2017
It also seems very odd that those who claim to hate the paper always know what they've written. You'd almost think they read it wanting to be outraged!
jaycee331
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Zeropoint1:
“It also seems very odd that those who claim to hate the paper always know what they've written. You'd almost think they read it wanting to be outraged!”

Perhaps if you read my post at #53 above you'd gain some insight into why some of us have a love/hate relationship with the DM.
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