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Rekekah_Carter
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I hope we're all somewhat superior to the Mail.
It's the go to outlet for a tediously disruptive DS thread by presenting a false premise based on their fantastical versions of reality.



The Mail is good at abusing it's power to corrupt by lying through it's pearly whites.
It's really really bad and worryingly obsessed with the need for weird guestimations of random property values and how much money their eternally much detested immigrants fleece out of the Government......”

Yet it's good enough when it suits the purpose! Nah, as I originally said, just some that seem to have this superiority complex. They usually feel better quoting The Guardian for some reason.
tenofspades
01-01-2017
have to admit I reluctantly bought daily mail the other day as I was waiting- and I enjoyed it...
GusGus
01-01-2017
I always read it whilst waiting at the barbers and find it interesting. Often provide links to stories and articles in it
Malliday
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I hope we're all somewhat superior to the Mail.
It's the go to outlet for a tediously disruptive DS thread by presenting a false premise based on their fantastical versions of reality.”

I've read too much truth on sites and publications that are supposedly biased and discredited, while the same information is nowhere to be seen on the supposedly credible sites/publications, to dismiss any news outlet out of hand these days.

I know we're not supposed to mention it in this thread but, who cares, I often read articles and coverage in the Guardian that are grotesquely biased and agenda driven.

But that doesn't stop me reading it, because I want to read reports and points of view from across the political spectrum. Otherwise how could anybody possibly claim to have a balanced point of view?

Especially if they claim not to trust certain news outlets. If a person doesn't trust the ones they won't read, then why on earth would they think that they can trust the ones that they do?

I'll do my own fact-checking if something sounds like hokum or inflammatory nonsense. But I'm well past dismissing news based on the outlet publishing it.

I think everybody should be these days.
DadDancer
02-01-2017
The Daily Mail, with it's side bar of shame has made it perfectly acceptable to look at scantily clad celebs in the workplace . As the UK's most popular new source, few employers are going to have it blocked.
anne_666
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Malliday:
“I've read too much truth on sites and publications that are supposedly biased and discredited, while the same information is nowhere to be seen on the supposedly credible sites/publications, to dismiss any news outlet out of hand these days.

I know we're not supposed to mention it in this thread but, who cares, I often read articles and coverage in the Guardian that are grotesquely biased and agenda driven.

But that doesn't stop me reading it, because I want to read reports and points of view from across the political spectrum. Otherwise how could anybody possibly claim to have a balanced point of view?

Especially if they claim not to trust certain news outlets. If a person doesn't trust the ones they won't read, then why on earth would they think that they can trust the ones that they do?

I'll do my own fact-checking if something sounds like hokum or inflammatory nonsense. But I'm well past dismissing news based on the outlet publishing it.

I think everybody should be these days.”

Yes some of them are and too left wing for my right of centre tastes. Their hysterical Shakesperian tragedy after Brexit reached public health endangering proportions.
I also do my own fact checking and as I prefer a cross section of opinion I don't only read one source.
alan29
02-01-2017
A lot of voters follow its line on Brexit and on voting Tory. And it sells shed loads of copies.
Like it or not, it reflects the views of a lot of Brits.
Princessxxxx
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by alan29:
“A lot of voters follow its line on Brexit and on voting Tory. And it sells shed loads of copies.
Like it or not, it reflects the views of a lot of Brits.”


Some ignorant people refer to the DM as a "racist paeprs" I diagree and have friends that are from the EU and futher afiled and they love the DM. Generally, the DM has a following of hard working, tax paying people that own their own property and genrally better off financially than 70% of the uk.
andy1231
02-01-2017
Well for all the hatred of the Mail that is posted on this site, lots of posters seem to read it. I have often found that when going o the newsagent it is the first paper to be sold out in the mornings.Now without wishing to annoy anyone so early in the New Year, are the posters on this forum who constantly slag off the Daily Mail, shall we say of a more left wing orientation ?
Inkblot
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by BlizzardUK:
“I am pleased we have the DM as it acts as the opposite to the lefty papers. At least it gives people a choice out there for their views. I think people on the left fail to realise not everyone is like them or should be like them. The Sun and the Daily Mail are hated by the left and liberals but they are the top 2 selling newspapers in the UK. The left wing Independent couldn't even survive in print and had to close down.”

But why do we need an "opposite to the lefty papers" when almost all the papers are right-wing? If you want to read right-wing views you are spoiled for choice and as you point out, those are the views espoused by the biggest-selling papers. If you want to read left-wing views you have very little choice.
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“Well for all the hatred of the Mail that is posted on this site, lots of posters seem to read it. I have often found that when going o the newsagent it is the first paper to be sold out in the mornings.Now without wishing to annoy anyone so early in the New Year, are the posters on this forum who constantly slag off the Daily Mail, shall we say of a more left wing orientation ?”

It fully deserves to be "slagged off" ...by the left or the right, it shouldn't matter. Though of course the more extreme right-wingers will lap up every word.
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rekekah_Carter:
“Yet it's good enough when it suits the purpose! Nah, as I originally said, just some that seem to have this superiority complex. They usually feel better quoting The Guardian for some reason.”

Well, that makes sense.
GusGus
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“It fully deserves to be "slagged off" ...by the left or the right, it shouldn't matter. Though of course the more extreme right-wingers will lap up every word.”


You can always tell the political colour of those who make such comments as this
I suspect it's a sort of jealousy because the left has no equivalent outlet
I am not "extreme right-wing" but I enjoy what the Mail has to say
dee123
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Finny Skeleta:
“I'm really interested if anyone here can defend the journalism of the Daily Mail without using the word 'Guardian'.

It's a bit like trying to argue that Terminator 2 is better than The Terminator without using the word "effects".”

But T2 is the better film. The same can't be said for the Fail.
CELT1987
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Some ignorant people refer to the DM as a "racist paeprs" I diagree and have friends that are from the EU and futher afiled and they love the DM. Generally, the DM has a following of hard working, tax paying people that own their own property and genrally better off financially than 70% of the uk.”

So if your not a taxpayer, don't own your own home, then your not a decent person?
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“You can always tell the political colour of those who make such comments as this
I suspect it's a sort of jealousy because the left has no equivalent outlet
I am not "extreme right-wing" but I enjoy what the Mail has to say”

Nothing whatever to do with jealousy, and not much to do with being on the left. Just a dislike of the way the Mail demonises certain groups of people and panders to its readers' prejudices. Its rather poor standard of journalism doesn't help either!
SULLA
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“Defend the Daily Mail...

No, cos it's a toxic populist rag.”

Populist? No, it's popular.
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Some ignorant people refer to the DM as a "racist paeprs" I diagree and have friends that are from the EU and futher afiled and they love the DM. Generally, the DM has a following of hard working, tax paying people that own their own property and genrally better off financially than 70% of the uk.”

And who have rather right-wing views of course.
Rekekah_Carter
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Well, that makes sense.”

To whom?
Rekekah_Carter
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“And who have rather right-wing views of course.”

Is having left wing views better then? Does that make you a better person?
Plundermot
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rekekah_Carter:
“Is having left wing views better then? Does that make you a better person?”

By definition, yes.
Rekekah_Carter
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Plundermot:
“By definition, yes.”

Your definition, maybe, but it really doesn't.
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rekekah_Carter:
“Is having left wing views better then? Does that make you a better person?”

Possibly, but I was just stating a fact about the Mail demographic.
jjwales
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rekekah_Carter:
“To whom?”

To those who recognise that the Guardian is a serious quality newspaper, unlike the Mail.
Johnbee
02-01-2017
Loo, the biggest problem with the dm is that most of the main stories each day (lesbian mother of 7 gets 200,000 per year), are complete inventions by the regular committee at the daily conference. The dm rule is 'make them angry every day'.
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