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To those who recognise that the Guardian is a serious quality newspaper, unlike the Mail.
Are you just stating a fact about the Guardian demographic there? |
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To those who recognise that the Guardian is a serious quality newspaper, unlike the Mail.
![]() ![]() - Sorry, but LOL! It really isn't. It, and it's readers take themselves very seriously though! It's as leftwing bias as DM is right.
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To those who recognise that the Guardian is a serious quality newspaper, unlike the Mail.
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The guardian is far from being a quality paper.
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![]() ![]() - Sorry, but LOL! It really isn't. It, and it's readers take themselves very seriously though! It's as leftwing bias as DM is right. ![]() |
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#106 |
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Its good for toilet paper though.
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Especially the Owen Jones page..
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#108 |
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Well, it's no surprise that people with very right-wing views will despise Owen Jones. He should take it as a badge of honour.
![]() He's a whinging cry baby and I really do despise him. |
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Well, it's no surprise that people with very right-wing views will despise Owen Jones. He should take it as a badge of honour.
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You do not have to be 'very' right wing to see him for what he is! 'Badge of honour'? For what?
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I generally don't hold right wing, or even very right wing, views though.
He's a whinging cry baby and I really do despise him. |
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I'm really interested if anyone here can defend the journalism of the Daily Mail without using the word 'Guardian'.
It's a bit like trying to argue that Terminator 2 is better than The Terminator without using the word "effects". |
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Why does it need defending
Be interesting to see how its fans would defend that kind of thing, or if they'd just deny it. |
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The guardian is far from being a quality paper.
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Why does it need defending, their website is one of the most viewed in the world. If I were in charge, i'd be quite happy as clearly lots of people like it.
So absolutely from a buisness standpoint, props to the Daily Mail for the amount of click bait. However that does not correlate automatically with journalistic standards. |
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I personally see the DM as a factual and very balanced news/media outlet. The quality of the journalism in the DM is good however it is is very "old school" right wing appealing to the old Tory bigots and golf club racists who make up most of the readership. Balanced it is not! |
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I personally think you are are deluded or naive.
The quality of the journalism in the DM is good however it is is very "old school" right wing appealing to the old Tory bigots and golf club racists who make up most of the readership. Balanced it is not! |
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It's nowhere near as nasty though. And it is a serious quality newspaper.
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DM - right wing
Gaurdian - left wing I read the dm for the gossip pages, not for proper news stuff. It's good at getting people angry though and they know that results in more views. so all those people who moan and call it daily fail/hiel are doing them a favour everytime they click it to be outraged. |
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DM - right wing
Gaurdian - left wing Telegraph - right wing Times - right wing Mail - right wing Express - right wing Sun - right wing Mirror - centre left Guardian - centre left There aren't really any mass-market left-wing papers as far as I can see. |
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The DM is tabloid porn..... Mass appeal but terrible quality... The intellect of the sub-editors us high school level.
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#122 |
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1) Print inflammatory nonsense that people will agree with and disagree with strongly in equal measure to maximise hits on ad-infested website. Disregard concepts such as "research", "fact checking" and "not giving that c*nt richard littlejohn a job".
2) Hire people to go around forums and facebook posting links to said website. 3) ?? 4) Profit. In any case the web site and printed paper are quite different. |
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Maybe more like
Telegraph - right wing Times - right wing Mail - right wing Express - right wing Sun - right wing Mirror - centre left Guardian - centre left There aren't really any mass-market left-wing papers as far as I can see. But people can't blame the right wing for the Guardian (and Observer) being the only left wing newspaper left (although I would add The Mirror, The I, and Morning Star to that list as well), it is a business, and clearly there are not enough people who think the same way to buy it, either that or they do all their reading of it online. The Independent went down the pan (paper version) because it sold next to nothing. People on the right wing are not stopping these papers being sold, it is down to the people to buy it to keep them alive. |
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#124 |
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I know some people refer to it as such but I seriously doubt anyone can realistically call the Guardian/Observer centre left, it comes pretty much neck and neck with the Independent on leftism. I agree the Daily Mail is right wing, but it is the polar opposite to the Guardian which makes that left wing, in my view at least. Very few newspapers have a centre view in my opinion. I read The Sun, Daily Mail and The Daily Mirror pretty much every day, and all of them seem to be solidly one direction or the other, with not much centre. Also when I read the Mirror it seems solidly left as well, maybe not as much as the Guardian and Independent but there doesn't seem much centre or unbiased about it either. Also what about The I and Morning Star ? I haven't read them but I hear they are solidly left too.
But people can't blame the right wing for the Guardian (and Observer) being the only left wing newspaper left (although I would add The Mirror, The I, and Morning Star to that list as well), it is a business, and clearly there are not enough people who think the same way to buy it, either that or they do all their reading of it online. The Independent went down the pan (paper version) because it sold next to nothing. People on the right wing are not stopping these papers being sold, it is down to the people to buy it to keep them alive. |
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#125 |
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Richard Littleton is an excellent columnist. It is amusing to see a person who uses the particular swearword attributed to him in your post thinks themselves superior to a daily mail reader.
In any case the web site and printed paper are quite different. |
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