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Old 01-01-2017, 12:28
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Is Mrs May going to say one thing to Nissan and another to voters ?
I would expect Mrs May doesn't have a bloody clue what she's doing in this regard.

Article 50 can be withdrawn at any time during the two years, presumably this will have to be done for more negotiating time, but May having spin sending the EU a 'we changed our minds' letter to the Brexiteers will be fun to see.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:28
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Yup. A good thing?



Whoopee. What's it like in RMB terms? Or Euro terms? And why would it be at all relevant?
The relevance is, as pointed out, that the FTSE100 has gone up due to Sterling dropping, not due to a surge in confidence in the UK economy.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:36
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The relevance is, as pointed out, that the FTSE100 has gone up due to Sterling dropping, not due to a surge in confidence in the UK economy.
Anyone but the terminally deluded knows this.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:41
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Maybe this particular powder keg is surrounded by all the other powder kegs, so setting this on off will set of a chain reaction.
No, that surely would be a snowball causing an avalanche, or possibly a resonance cascade scenario.

Or maybe it's the one massive powder keg that really needs to be avoided being set off.
That would be the 'the' rather than just any old 'a'. I blame the headline writers, on the one hand brevity is good but a difference of two whole letters when publishing online is a bit pointless as regards trying to save on wear and tear on the inkroll.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:43
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You really think that's a good thing?
The worst possible moment to throw a hand grenade into the delicate Eco System that we call the UK Economy is probably 8 years after a Once in a Century World Banking Crisis. Just at the moment when George Osborne realised that things are going to get worse before they get better.

You definitely would not choose that moment to throw a hand grenade into the pond.
And yet we did.
The ripples caused by the ripples are stunning. Even the fourth and tenth degree ripples are each worthy of a 100 page thread.
Even the posters who spent July and August saying "please stop discussing Brexit" are no longer posting "please stop discussing that Elephant that is eclipsing the sun".
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:43
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Article 50 can be withdrawn at any time during the two years.
Presumably you are a ECJ judge or did you just decide this when you got up this morning.
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Old 01-01-2017, 13:24
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I would expect Mrs May doesn't have a bloody clue what she's doing in this regard.

Article 50 can be withdrawn at any time during the two years, presumably this will have to be done for more negotiating time, but May having spin sending the EU a 'we changed our minds' letter to the Brexiteers will be fun to see.
Before the end of next year, Mrs May could face painful choices between voter betrayal or an economic squeeze. Against the backdrop of protracted, tedious, stalled or even failed Brexit negotiations.
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:06
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The worst possible moment to throw a hand grenade into the delicate Eco System that we call the UK Economy is probably 8 years after a Once in a Century World Banking Crisis. Just at the moment when George Osborne realised that things are going to get worse before they get better.
Errr... right. So 'once in a century' actually means more than once, assuming one remembers to throw the grenade, not the pin.

You definitely would not choose that moment to throw a hand grenade into the pond.
And yet we did.
Yup. We Brits are funny like that. And it's quicker than most approved methods of fishing. But the hand grenade I had in mind was Aurichie's-

parliament will see its powers upheld and they will be able to block brexit

I know some Remnants are scraping the bottom of the Chicken Little value bucket, looking for faint scraps of comfort.. Like the delusion that the referendum was 'advisory only', so Parliament can ignore the will of the people. At a time when trust in politicians is at an all time low..

That, I suggest would be quite some grenade to throw.

Even the posters who spent July and August saying "please stop discussing Brexit" are no longer posting "please stop discussing that Elephant that is eclipsing the sun".
Some probably prefer mixing drinks to metaphors, and despite it's delayed start, the New Year is still sunny...
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:13
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Before the end of next year, Mrs May could face painful choices between voter betrayal or an economic squeeze. Against the backdrop of protracted, tedious, stalled or even failed Brexit negotiations.
Voter betrayal is not an option. She needs to get on with the process of making us poorer.
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:45
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We should be out already. If Parliament block Brexit, there will be hell to pay. They have no right to do this.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:41
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We should be out already. If Parliament block Brexit, there will be hell to pay. They have no right to do this.
The High Court already said parliament has every right to do so. And the Supreme Court is very likely to do the same. In which case, yes they have every right to block brexit.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:52
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Doom, doom, doom the drums of Brexit beat. Your all going to die. The UK will become a desert wasteland and the windblown sands will scour the flesh off your bones.

Meanwhile, bone china will become less expensive. Cheers
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:45
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If leave had won a majority of all eligible voters then it would be different. But they didn't, so now we have a mess to sort out. And the best way for MP's to sort this mess out is to do their job and act in the national interest.
The national interest is that the United Kingdom does not end up like some banana republic that just picks and chooses which election results it likes and disregards others.

How fragile our democracy appears to be with some people when faced with a difficult issue that has been taken by legitimate means. Don't throw the advisory waffle at me either.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:02
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It is in the national interest to leave the EU. The people have spoken. It is up to Parliament to deliver Brexit. If they don't want to, or don't feel they can, resign and we can get someone competent in to do the job.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:44
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The High Court already said parliament has every right to do so. And the Supreme Court is very likely to do the same. In which case, yes they have every right to block brexit.
Why don't you want to play anymore, aurichie? It's like a game, only with the dawning reality of what a darkly-cynical place the world can be, and what lengths people will go to to have more money than the other kids...

What is Mishcon de Reya's real interest in this case? Their website kindly pretty much spells out not only the game but many of the other players. I'll bet you a few thousand on the origins of their rather specific and limited vocabulary (and, hence, their thoughts), if you like.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:11
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The High Court already said parliament has every right to do so. And the Supreme Court is very likely to do the same. In which case, yes they have every right to block brexit.
Politicians are normally very savvy to know which way the wind blows and if lets say 85% of your constituents voted for leave but you decide to vote stay how long would you think they'll last getting their snout in the trough.
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Old 01-01-2017, 20:38
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We should be out already. If Parliament block Brexit, there will be hell to pay. They have no right to do this.
I suggest you take some instruction in the way the British parliamentary system works before you spout drivel.
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