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The loud group are the Remainers.
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Only thing she will be fighting for is her political survival.
Families, workers and day-trippers had their journeys continually ruined due to striking rail workers - but Jeremy Corbyn believes the man behind them deserves a standing ovation. During a Christmas party held just days after the Southern action that left much of the country in chaos, the Labour leader gave a firm backing to Tosh McDonald, the president of train drivers' union Aslef. And with another six-day strike planned by Aslef and the RMT for January 9, Corbyn's show of support is unlikely to go down well with the millions who will have to re-arrange their commutes. |
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I thought the Leavers' usual term for that group was "Remoaners"!
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Only puerile people resort to name calling.
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When did a PM doing a presidential NY Day address become a thing?
I think Cameron did it, was Blair also guilty of this delusion of grandeur?
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Well she leads Corbyn in all opinions polls and has done ever since she was elected so she will be feeling relatively confident at present.
[i]Families, workers and day-trippers had their journeys continually ruined due to striking rail workers - but Jeremy Corbyn believes the man behind them deserves a standing ovation. Quote:
During a Christmas party held just days after the Southern action that left much of the country in chaos, the Labour leader gave a firm backing to Tosh McDonald, the president of train drivers' union Aslef.
"much of the country"? I mean I know that lots of people think that the UK ends after anywhere north of Watford,Oh and by the way, the rail strike was called off over Christmas so the disruption was as nothing compared to that which the self inflicted maintenance caused over the break, of course the ministry of propaganda didn't force feed that into the minds of the herd for weeks beforehand. Quote:
And with another six-day strike planned by Aslef and the RMT for January 9, Corbyn's show of support is unlikely to go down well with the millions who will have to re-arrange their commutes. MILLIONS? Heaven forbid those nasty working class types exercise their hard won right to legally withdraw their labour in an industrial dispute, perhaps they should be forced to work at gunpoint? I love to hear Tory supporters say "of course I respect the right to withdraw one's labour" except of course they never EVER do. |
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Sounds like May is softening her earlier tough stance here and that a 'hard Brexit' is appearing less likely. Never mind, UKIP will be the grateful beneficiaries if she betrays what most Brexiteers voted for.
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Well she leads Corbyn in all opinions polls and has done ever since she was elected so she will be feeling relatively confident at present.
Families, workers and day-trippers had their journeys continually ruined due to striking rail workers - but Jeremy Corbyn believes the man behind them deserves a standing ovation. During a Christmas party held just days after the Southern action that left much of the country in chaos, the Labour leader gave a firm backing to Tosh McDonald, the president of train drivers' union Aslef. And with another six-day strike planned by Aslef and the RMT for January 9, Corbyn's show of support is unlikely to go down well with the millions who will have to re-arrange their commutes. |
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Sounds like May is softening her earlier tough stance here and that a 'hard Brexit' is appearing less likely. Never mind, UKIP will be the grateful beneficiaries if she betrays what most Brexiteers voted for.
If she never says what she wants, whatever the outcome can be spun as a victory. She is a total waste of space. No mandate, no personality, no clue. |
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She can only truly fight for us by blocking brexit.
But encouraging at least she's not going to let the hard brexiteers get their way. |
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Sounds like a load of DM b*llocks.
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Her party divided the country because they thought promising to hold an EU referendum was the only way to see off UKIP at the last general election. They were so confident they'd get the result they wanted, but then arrogance has been their defining characteristic of the Tories. A party led by more capable leadership wouldn't have made that choice. They don't appear to have the talent to undo the damage they've done.
It's a right old mess. |
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Her party divided the country because they thought promising to hold an EU referendum was the only way to see off UKIP at the last general election. They were so confident they'd get the result they wanted, but then arrogance has been their defining characteristic of the Tories. A party led by more capable leadership wouldn't have made that choice. They don't appear to have the talent to undo the damage they've done.
It's a right old mess. Since the situation is unique we shall just have to be patient as events unfold. There are no experts on the subject because it is a one off. There are lots of gobby self-certificated "experts" whose opinions have no value at this stage. |
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There is no mess. Work is going on and by March Article 50 will be triggered and we will be into the next stage.
Since the situation is unique we shall just have to be patient as events unfold. There are no experts on the subject because it is a one off. There are lots of gobby self-certificated "experts" whose opinions have no value at this stage. |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...message-brexit
New year message from Theresa May: Thats pretty reassuring. Listening to all the country instead of the rather loud group. ![]() |
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There is no mess. Work is going on and by March Article 50 will be triggered and we will be into the next stage.
Since the situation is unique we shall just have to be patient as events unfold. There are no experts on the subject because it is a one off. There are lots of gobby self-certificated "experts" whose opinions have no value at this stage. That said, she does get some sympathy from me because she inherited a very difficult situation from her extremely irresponsible predecessor who took the coward’s way out by walking away from a situation that he had just created. |
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However, it comes across as a mess because the moment that she hints at a hard Brexit then the markets react and the value of the pound falls and then she makes some comforting soft Brexit noises and things recover. The UK cannot have both a hard and a soft Brexit - it's one or the other.
That said, she does get some sympathy from me because she inherited a very difficult situation from her extremely irresponsible predecessor who took the coward’s way out by walking away from a situation that he had just created. The referendum should have been "do you want to remain" or "do you want to leave, we will give you this say, and then totally ignore and make life as difficult and expansive as we can for you whilst we roll over on out tummies and let he banks, business, industry and Murdoch tickle our tummies until we are salivating like we've just won the lottery"? |
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There is no mess. Work is going on and by March Article 50 will be triggered and we will be into the next stage.
and all this is before we get the outcome of the appeal to the supreme court, (I await the fireworks to come) and before article 50 has been triggered and the negotiations actually start, looks like one HELL of a mess to me. |
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WHAT!! The PM who instigated this disaster has run for the hills, we have an unelected leader of the Tory party and PM, the government has been taken to court, half the Tory party are at odds with the other half, the leaders of other EU countries are giving her the cold shoulder, we don't have a single ally in the EU any more.
and all this is before we get the outcome of the appeal to the supreme court, (I await the fireworks to come) and before article 50 has been triggered and the negotiations actually start, looks like one HELL of a mess to me. |
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WHAT!! The PM who instigated this disaster has run for the hills, we have an unelected leader of the Tory party and PM, the government has been taken to court, half the Tory party are at odds with the other half, the leaders of other EU countries are giving her the cold shoulder, we don't have a single ally in the EU any more.
and all this is before we get the outcome of the appeal to the supreme court, (I await the fireworks to come) and before article 50 has been triggered and the negotiations actually start, looks like one HELL of a mess to me. Now if only we could persuade BBC wales to lend us the tardis so we could have a look a hundred years from now we'd know for sure which way is the best way
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WHAT!! The PM who instigated this disaster has run for the hills, we have an unelected leader of the Tory party and PM, the government has been taken to court, half the Tory party are at odds with the other half, the leaders of other EU countries are giving her the cold shoulder, we don't have a single ally in the EU any more.
and all this is before we get the outcome of the appeal to the supreme court, (I await the fireworks to come) and before article 50 has been triggered and the negotiations actually start, looks like one HELL of a mess to me. But, but, but.....Corbyn boooo....Labour hisssss. |
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But, but, but.....Corbyn boooo....Labour hisssss.
May on the other hand only campaigned for Remain in a half hearted way and very likely wanted a Brexit... she is perfect to lead a party and the country!!!! |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...message-brexit
New year message from Theresa May: Thats pretty reassuring. Listening to all the country instead of the rather loud group. ![]() |
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Sounds like Mrs May has realized at last that half the voting public don't agree with Brexit and that she needs their support. Now she has to back up her words with actions.
I'm sure most of the pro EU here want us to learn German and move the base of the EU to Berlin and begin to see us all wearing jack boots etc
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Thats a wrong statement as when has 48% of something been more than 52%? now i'm no mathematical professor but unless it is exactly 50/50 down to the last vote then it cannot be seen as half the voting public!)
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I'm sure most of the pro EU here want us to learn German and move the base of the EU to Berlin and begin to see us all wearing jack boots etc
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