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their so called religion and their role in the UK?
I don't think all muslims are extremists either. However, that being said, I don't think there is any place in the UK for some of their customs and cultures and most certainly not sharia law. Trying to integrate more with the uk and its values should be compulsory, if you come from abroad and aren't going to learn english or adapt to the western world, then they shouldn't come. But that could be said of any. Foreign person regardless of faith/values and nationality. If you are going to work hard and contribute to society then way to go. |
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![]() ![]() You have to click alert to notify the mods, they don't read every single post but er don't do it now cos everyone will know it was you ![]() Why do posters want this thread closed, we still have free speech in this Country |
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Same as I feel about anyone else. Some are dicks, some are lovely, and most are somewhere in between.
Incidentally, when you say "so-called religion", I'm a bit stumped. I mean, you can have any opinion of Islam that you want, and that's just another boring day on DS, but if you're going to start suggesting it's not even a religion at all then that's a more interesting line of enquiry and I'd love to see where you're going with it and from whence it came. "To be fair, I think there really is a bit of that going on. If they just called ISIS (or ISIL) by the name that they choose to call themselves I don't think anybody will be confused enough to think that they are a recognized sovereign state, any more than people would mistakenly believe Captain Beefheart to be a ranking officer in the armed forces.
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Why do posters want this thread closed, we still have free speech in this Country
I find this thread offensive, |
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Freedom of speech is totally different from freedom to offend.
I find this thread offensive, |
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Same as I feel about other religious people. I don't have any time for it myself, but I don't have a problem with them unless they in any way try to force their beliefs on me.
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I don't have any problems with Muslims as well as with any other religion to that matter. We should not generalise when it comes to Muslims. However, I think Muslim communities have to acknowledge that there is a problem with radicalisation and do as much as they can to prevent any possible radicalisation of the youth in their communities. If we all keep turning our heads away and pretend there is nothing to worry about, it will get more complicated.
We can not deal with radicalisation until Muslims themselves realise they need to work on prevention. |
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Freedom of speech is totally different from freedom to offend.
I find this thread offensive,
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Scum.....
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I don't have any problems with Muslims as well as with any other religion to that matter. We should not generalise when it comes to Muslims. However, I think Muslim communities have to acknowledge that there is a problem with radicalisation and do as much as they can to prevent any possible radicalisation of the youth in their communities. If we all keep turning our heads away and pretend there is nothing to worry about, it will get more complicated.
We can not deal with radicalisation until Muslims themselves realise they need to work on prevention. Nobody is turning their head away and pretending there is nothing to worry about. There is a great deal going on to try to prevent this kind of thing. |
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Don't read it then.
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It's hard to avoid, given the thread is on the 1st page
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To be fair, I think there really is a bit of that going on. If they just called ISIS (or ISIL) by the name that they choose to call themselves I don't think anybody will be confused enough to think that they are a recognized sovereign state, any more than people would mistakenly believe Captain Beefheart to be a ranking officer in the armed forces.
![]() Mind you, that's one motherf***er I WOULD gladly follow into battle. |
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the same as i feel about every other human, i don`t differentiate on the basis of religion.
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I don't have any problems with Muslims as well as with any other religion to that matter. We should not generalise when it comes to Muslims. However, I think Muslim communities have to acknowledge that there is a problem with radicalisation and do as much as they can to prevent any possible radicalisation of the youth in their communities. If we all keep turning our heads away and pretend there is nothing to worry about, it will get more complicated.
We can not deal with radicalisation until Muslims themselves realise they need to work on prevention. Instead they are encouraged to attend Mosques, Islamic Education or Islamic Centres to bring them closer to Allah and his teachings, where extremists also attend. There are rulings on everything including sport, leisure and entertainment. This link below, shows parents seeking guidance regarding the entertainments allowed/disallowed & the answers. One parent even asks if its ok to build a snowman. https://islamqa.info/en/cat/366 |
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And easily offended you just had to click on it.
It is an offensive thread, why pick on Muslims, there's a whole range of minority groups one could've asked the question of. |
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It's hard to avoid, given the thread is on the 1st page
Really? Have you opened EVERY page on the 1st page?
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It is an offensive thread, why pick on Muslims, there's a whole range of minority groups one could've asked the question of. What would be the difference if another minority group had been chosen then? Why should this minority group be excluded from any discussion but not others? Is discussion on all minority groups offensive to you, or just this one particular minority? Many might find it offensive that every minority except Muslim,s could be discussed. After all, those of the Muslim faith do & are free to discuss every other minority or religion too, or would you also prefer that they were also excluded from discussing certain topics/threads on any minority other than their own?...
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I know a few and get on with them very well.
But we'll never be on a totally even keel as they're the only religion that I come into contact with that is not allowed to like a good drink. |
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I think Islam in its purist form is a radical and primitive religion. Similar to Christianity and other religions in that respect. However i believe the vast majority of Muslims do follow a more moderate version of it, which is in line with most modern western values. I think things which could still do with being updated is religious slaughter and religious dress, which still seem to be common for the vast majority of the followers of this religion.
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I know a few and get on with them very well.
But we'll never be on a totally even keel as they're the only religion that I come into contact with that is not allowed to like a good drink. |
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I know a few and get on with them very well.
But we'll never be on a totally even keel as they're the only religion that I come into contact with that is not allowed to like a good drink. |
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yet I know a number of Muslims who drink. There are a fair few Muslim owned Indian restaurants who serve alcohol too. I think over time it will become more relaxed in the same way that Christianity has. To the point where no one goes to church anymore.
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Many non religious people may not drink alcohol either.
Anybody should have the choice whether to drink alcohol or not and it should be their personal choice whether to abstain. These things are sent to try us. |
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Are you suggesting that this hasn't happened yet? There are many examples of Muslims denouncing extremism.
Nobody is turning their head away and pretending there is nothing to worry about. There is a great deal going on to try to prevent this kind of thing. Yes, there are many Muslims denouncing extremism indeed, but not in the key areas in say Paris where the percentage of people who get successfully radicalised is much higher than in other parts of the city. Not many young people is going to get radicalised in areas like Saint Germain-des-Prés in Paris, but in areas like Porte de Clignancour for example, much more people do get radicalised. |
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