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So the BBC is impartial is it?
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davidmcn
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“And presumably there's not much going on in Yemen at the moment. It might be a nice place to go on holiday this year.”

Eh? There's been plenty of BBC coverage about Yemen. 19 articles on their website in the past month, for example - not exactly a news blackout.
noise747
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“That's an opinion and one you seem perfectly happy to use any source as confirmation bias.”

Again , you take it that I believe the article or i have used the article to confirm anything
Sport1
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Money is an amazing thing, it makes people and companies do things that may or may not be wrong.”

I think the BBC operate on a budget of £4.5billion, or near enough. You seem to be suggesting that the entire organisation can be bought for a couple of million?
noise747
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“UKIP gets loadsamoney from the EU. Do you think that could make UKIP a pro-EU organisation? Do you think it influences how UKIP views the EU. If not, why should the BBC be influenced by a little research money?”

It does seem strange that UKIP accepts money money from the EU, i never understood it myself, apart from maybe they think they will get as much as they can out of the E.U.

Nothing about the BBC surprises me anymore and i think they would go down that route.
Just like our politicians with their cash for questions.
noise747
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by njp:
“No, it's a non-story because it's a piece of shit masquerading as journalism. I thought you hadn't even read it?”

I do not remember saying i have not read it, I said I do not read the newspaper or any other newspaper apart from our local one.
noise747
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Video Nasty:
“Is the BBC left wing or right wing this month?”

Which ever suits them
noise747
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“The usual beeb bashers are active here ”

The usual beeb supporters are active here as well,
Sport1
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by noise747:
“The usual beeb supporters are active here as well,”

When the accusations are baseless nonsense there will be supporters.
mossy2103
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Money is an amazing thing, it makes people and companies do things that may or may not be wrong.”

So why would a relatively small grant for R&D purposes affect how the BBC reports things? It's not as if they are likely to be funding a joint R&D project solely for their own ends.
njp
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“So why would a relatively small grant for R&D purposes affect how the BBC reports things? It's not as if they are likely to be funding a joint R&D project solely for their own ends.”

Perhaps their EU-sponsored drones are going to be programmed to seek out licence evaders, and in return, Nigel Farage gets ridiculed on HIGNFY...
bluewomble88
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“There is no "major problem", as the BBC does not have a single viewpoint. It airs many different views.”

Yes, it does. From Yvette "I'll take in migrants" Cooper to Diane "Divide and rule" Abbott.

Care to count up how many reports there were of immigrants boating to Europe in the 3 months leading up to June 23rd last year on the BBC? That tells you everything.

Originally Posted by James2001:
“For a broadcaster than "oppresses their viewpoint", the BBC seem to give a Farage (and his ilk) a disproprotionate platform to spout his views. He seems to be on Question Time every other week. If that's "oppressing" a viewpoint, I wonder how they treat someone they agree with.”

They allow Farage and the like plenty of airtime in the hope they'll say something stupid or outrageous. Trouble is, they talk sense.

Originally Posted by human nature:
“But the article isn't true. What these hack journalists do is find some basic information (in this case the widely known fact that the BBC receives funding to conduct technical research for the EU) and then they extrapolate a complete unsupported theory out of it.

Where is their evidence that the technical research project has any influence over the BBC's editorial impartiality? There is none! And yet you believe the theory without appearing to ask any questions about it.”

BIB1 - Yes it is. You may not like the Express but that in itself doesn't make it untrue.

BIB2 - see my point above about immigrants boating in to Europe. Why would the BBC shut down all coverage of the immigrants entering Europe as we head for a referendum?
jjwales
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“Yes, it does. From Yvette "I'll take in migrants" Cooper to Diane "Divide and rule" Abbott.”

But they are both Labour MPs. What about all the other voices from other parties? Such as Farage, who you mentioned in the very same post!

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“Care to count up how many reports there were of immigrants boating to Europe in the 3 months leading up to June 23rd last year on the BBC? That tells you everything.”

Does it? What exactly does it tell you?

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“Why would the BBC shut down all coverage of the immigrants entering Europe as we head for a referendum?”

I can't imagine that they did any such thing. It sounds extremely unlikely.
bluewomble88
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
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I can't imagine that they did any such thing. It sounds extremely unlikely.”

How it sounds to you and how it actually played out is clearly very different.
Sport1
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“How it sounds to you and how it actually played out is clearly very different.”

Do you have any proof of what you are saying?
jjwales
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“Do you have any proof of what you are saying?”

That's what I was wondering. It's not something I've ever heard mentioned before.
bluewomble88
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“Do you have any proof of what you are saying?”

Not that I can point to. All I can draw on (unless I go out of my way to lodge a FOI request) is how all reports of migrants entering Europe seemed to completely cease almost immediately after the referendum campaigns kicked off about a year ago. Until then, it was on the BBC news almost every day, multiple times. Even my Romanian immigrant wife noticed and commented on it.
njp
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“Yes, it does. From Yvette "I'll take in migrants" Cooper to Diane "Divide and rule" Abbott. ”

Selecto-vision working well for you?

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“BIB1 - Yes it is. You may not like the Express but that in itself doesn't make it untrue.”

It's a non-story. Simple research grants, as awarded to many other bodies throughout the land. But the useless Daily Express hack has made it into an ersatz story by finding some bloviating buffoons to quote telling us it's a scandal, when it very clearly isn't.

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“BIB2 - see my point above about immigrants boating in to Europe. Why would the BBC shut down all coverage of the immigrants entering Europe as we head for a referendum?”

You've made that up in your head.
bluewomble88
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by njp:
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You've made that up in your head.”

Nope. Perhaps if you had both eyes open you'd see it too.
Sport1
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“Not that I can point to. All I can draw on (unless I go out of my way to lodge a FOI request) is how all reports of migrants entering Europe seemed to completely cease almost immediately after the referendum campaigns kicked off about a year ago. Until then, it was on the BBC news almost every day, multiple times. Even my Romanian immigrant wife noticed and commented on it.”

So it's your perception rather than fact? Did other news outlets continue with the stories?
njp
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“Nope. Perhaps if you had both eyes open you'd see it too.”

I'd probably need to borrow your special truther glasses, that apparently filter out anything contrary to your world view.
davidmcn
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by bluewomble88:
“Care to count up how many reports there were of immigrants boating to Europe in the 3 months leading up to June 23rd last year on the BBC? That tells you everything.”

Have a look for yourself - this is what Google says are BBC's news stories about migrants, published between 23 March and 23 June.

From the first page of hits:

4 April: Migrant crisis: Greece starts deportations to Turkey

8 April: Migrant crisis: Deportations resume from Greece to Turkey

23 May: Migrant crisis: Libya intercepts boats carrying 850 people

29 May: European migrant crisis: Shipwrecks 'kill up to 700 migrants'

3 June: Migrant crisis: Hundreds rescued from boat off Crete

And many more pages of results. Bit of a rubbish "shutdown", eh?
trunkster
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by njp:
“I'd probably need to borrow your special truther glasses, that apparently filter out anything contrary to your world view.”

You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.

Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.
jjwales
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.

Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.”

All in your imagination it would seem. Anti-UKIP game shows? Never heard such nonsense!
Sport1
03-01-2017
How does Holby City have an agenda?
trunkster
03-01-2017
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“All in your imagination it would seem. Anti-UKIP game shows? Never heard such nonsense!”

I wouldn't expect you actually absorb, analyse and critique anything the BBC throw out. After all it's controlled by people like you.
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