Originally Posted by Sport1:
“How does Holby City have an agenda?”
“How does Holby City have an agenda?”
There was a post Brexit Remain political broadcast/rant on it last week, and has form on it.
So the BBC is impartial is it?
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Originally Posted by trunkster:
“There was a post Brexit Remain political broadcast/rant on it last week, and has form on it.”
“There was a post Brexit Remain political broadcast/rant on it last week, and has form on it.”
I'd love to see that. Whereabouts in the show did it appear? We can find it on iPlayer.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“I wouldn't expect you actually absorb, analyse and critique anything the BBC throw out. After all it's controlled by people like you.”
“I wouldn't expect you actually absorb, analyse and critique anything the BBC throw out. After all it's controlled by people like you.”
Bless! I'm surprised you manage to analyse anything when you are so busy fulminating with rage whilst watching it.
But perhaps if you shared some of your analysis, it might help.
Originally Posted by njp:
“So you believe the Common Purpose conspiracy the verbose poster was ranting on about actually exists?”
“So you believe the Common Purpose conspiracy the verbose poster was ranting on about actually exists?”
As the 'ranter' in question, could you at least give me a clue what you inferred the conspiracy to be? I'm unclear about what goes through people's minds, though -- does your brain just reject information that is not consistent with your worldview? Even when it is verifiable?
I'm pretty agnostic, but your response doesn't really help me with something I can't answer for myself -- am I psychic? It's just -- I hope this doesn't sound arrogant -- doesn't that seem like an amazing guess about what you'll find at Mishcon de Reya?
If we're going for the accumulator, would it be crazy if my hunch is that Alan Yentob will be a real advocate, and that any out-of-control spending on BBC projects (e.g. wasn't there an IT scheme that wasted millions on nothing?)
At the very least, I don't understand how you can shrug off crime so easily. It doesn't matter how it makes one feel about oneself. What matters is whether something is true and, that being the case, why?
Originally Posted by njp:
“Bless! I'm surprised you manage to analyse anything when you are so busy fulminating with rage whilst watching it.
But perhaps if you shared some of your analysis, it might help.”
“Bless! I'm surprised you manage to analyse anything when you are so busy fulminating with rage whilst watching it.
But perhaps if you shared some of your analysis, it might help.”
Hardly rage, just contempt, and why would I want to share my analysis of it with you?
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“I'd love to see that. Whereabouts in the show did it appear? We can find it on iPlayer.”
“I'd love to see that. Whereabouts in the show did it appear? We can find it on iPlayer.”
Yes it will be on i-player, but you'll have to suffer a whole episode as I did because my other half insists on watching it while we have dinner.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“Yes it will be on i-player, but you'll have to suffer a whole episode as I did because my other half insists on watching it while we have dinner.”
“Yes it will be on i-player, but you'll have to suffer a whole episode as I did because my other half insists on watching it while we have dinner.”
Well I have googled for 'Holby City anti-brexit' but can only find references to it on those anti-BBC loon sites.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.
Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.”
“You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.
Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.”
This has got be the funniest thing I've seen on this thread so far. Are you serious?
And do you think satirical shows should not be satirical?
Originally Posted by Sport1:
“Well I have googled for 'Holby City anti-brexit' but can only find references to it on those anti-BBC loon sites.”
“Well I have googled for 'Holby City anti-brexit' but can only find references to it on those anti-BBC loon sites.”
Good grief. I've just found one of those. It's the modern equivalent of the complaining they would once have done using green crayon...
Originally Posted by johnythefox:
“This has got be the funniest thing I've seen on this thread so far. Are you serious?
And do you think satirical shows should not be satirical?”
“This has got be the funniest thing I've seen on this thread so far. Are you serious?
And do you think satirical shows should not be satirical?”
No, they should be stopped by the government. Any satire targeting either UKIP or Trump should be made illegal and the perpetrators imprisoned or deported if they look foreign.
Meanwhile, in the next episode of Blue Peter, Val Singleton will show you how to make a tin-foil hat to stop the voices in your head.
Originally Posted by johnythefox:
“This has got be the funniest thing I've seen on this thread so far. Are you serious?
And do you think satirical shows should not be satirical?”
“This has got be the funniest thing I've seen on this thread so far. Are you serious?
And do you think satirical shows should not be satirical?”
No problem with impartial satire, you?
Originally Posted by njp:
“Good grief. I've just found one of those. It's the modern equivalent of the complaining they would once have done using green crayon...”
“Good grief. I've just found one of those. It's the modern equivalent of the complaining they would once have done using green crayon...”
Thank goodness you've found time to pat yourself in the back for your own comedic prowess... La, la, la.... I see no ships...
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“You can choose to buy The Daily Express. You have to pay for the BBC.”
“You can choose to buy The Daily Express. You have to pay for the BBC.”
This fallacy again?
You DON'T have to, and you know you don't
Originally Posted by mikw:
“This fallacy again?
You DON'T have to, and you know you don't”
“This fallacy again?
You DON'T have to, and you know you don't”
In the same way? Do you have to pay for a paper you don't want, if the paper you're really after is the Daily Express?
Originally Posted by chavet:
“Thank goodness you've found time to pat yourself in the back for your own comedic prowess... La, la, la.... I see no ships...”
“Thank goodness you've found time to pat yourself in the back for your own comedic prowess... La, la, la.... I see no ships...”
Here's an example of Brexian analysis on one of the anti-BBC sites:
"Alan Bennett’s Diaries
Channel: BBC2
Programme Date: 24/12/2016
Author: Jane
Alan Bennett finished this programme with his diary entry for the day after the referendum – it was an anti-Brexit diatribe and was in very poor taste."
Very poor taste! Can't have that on the Beeb, can we?
Perhaps each reading from Alan Bennett's diary should be balanced with one from Nigel Farage's diary. I invite suggestions for what that might look like.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“No problem with impartial satire, you?”
“No problem with impartial satire, you?”
I don't care whether it's impartial or not, as long as it's funny and as has an element of truth.
Originally Posted by njp:
“Here's an example of Brexian analysis on one of the anti-BBC sites:
"Alan Bennett’s Diaries
Channel: BBC2
Programme Date: 24/12/2016
Author: Jane
Alan Bennett finished this programme with his diary entry for the day after the referendum – it was an anti-Brexit diatribe and was in very poor taste."
Very poor taste! Can't have that on the Beeb, can we?
Perhaps each reading from Alan Bennett's diary should be balanced with one from Nigel Farage's diary. I invite suggestions for what that might look like.”
“Here's an example of Brexian analysis on one of the anti-BBC sites:
"Alan Bennett’s Diaries
Channel: BBC2
Programme Date: 24/12/2016
Author: Jane
Alan Bennett finished this programme with his diary entry for the day after the referendum – it was an anti-Brexit diatribe and was in very poor taste."
Very poor taste! Can't have that on the Beeb, can we?
Perhaps each reading from Alan Bennett's diary should be balanced with one from Nigel Farage's diary. I invite suggestions for what that might look like.”
No. I meant you found time to engage in something that required little effort, but not to answer my response above.
Originally Posted by chavet:
“No. I meant you found time to engage in something that required little effort, but not to answer my response above.”
“No. I meant you found time to engage in something that required little effort, but not to answer my response above.”
Oh, your conspiracy theory? Well, I simply googled it, and found a selection of nutter websites ranting on about how CP was trying to take over the world using behavioural modification.
Was your rant about something different?
Originally Posted by chavet:
“In the same way? Do you have to pay for a paper you don't want, if the paper you're really after is the Daily Express?”
“In the same way? Do you have to pay for a paper you don't want, if the paper you're really after is the Daily Express?”
The poster said he HAS to pay for the BBC, he doesn't.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.
Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.”
“You might have to take off your BBC faux impartiality glasses before you do that.
Just a weeks viewing across their entire output will tell you otherwise. From game/satire shows choc full of anti UKIP/Brexit stuff to dramas and soaps like Holby City & Silent Witness with their politically and socially slanted agendas.”
Anti UKIP games shows etc?
Would they be the same ones that also spend an awful lot of time mocking the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem politicians?
I think one of the problems a lot of UKIP supporters have with the BBC output, is they can't seem to grasp that when a politician or political party does somethng stupid it tends to get mocked.
Unfortunately for UKIP it's run by a bunch of clowns with many of it's candidates basically never getting the memo to be careful of what they say/do as it will get reported.
When a party has a revolving door leadership contest because it can't stop arguing it gets in the news, when a party has contenders for that post beating each other up it gets in the news, when the party does it's vetting of candidates so poorly they don't spot those with criminal records it gets in the news.
It's no different to how the panel shows have mocked (continuously) the other political parties for decades.
Originally Posted by njp:
“Oh, your conspiracy theory? Well, I simply googled it, and found a selection of nutter websites ranting on about how CP was trying to take over the world using behavioural modification.
Was your rant about something different?”
“Oh, your conspiracy theory? Well, I simply googled it, and found a selection of nutter websites ranting on about how CP was trying to take over the world using behavioural modification.
Was your rant about something different?”
Lawl, and I thought you were lazy. You Googled it? Wow. How many minutes did you spend on something you couldn't verify? That's, like, totally, like, scientific and factual.
As reading a few lines appears to be beyond you, can you spend a few seconds considering why you think the Mishcon de Reya site was so close to my expectations? Should I buy a lottery ticket or is it just a one-off event that keeps happening?
What about Alan Yentob and the failed projects? Should it not just be a matter of course that a national broadcaster should be open about any training correlation, should it exist, particularly in light of Camila Batmanghelidjh?
Oh well the Express, I suppose that we should all listen then. This would be the same newspaper that attributes everything good to Brexit and everything bad to remainers. I wouldn't even wipe my bottom with it.
Originally Posted by mikw:
“The poster said he HAS to pay for the BBC, he doesn't.”
“The poster said he HAS to pay for the BBC, he doesn't.”
I understand that. I'm asking if it's the same.
Also, whilst it may be true that you don't literally HAVE to pay, have you ever experienced what happens if you don't own a TV? To be fair, the people that come and check are really nice, but it seems to work under the assumption that you're lying and I've found it quite stressful to get in touch them to let them know. An older guy I know without a telly has had a quite unpleasant experience of it.
Originally Posted by chavet:
“Lawl, and I thought you were lazy. You Googled it? Wow. How many minutes did you spend on something you couldn't verify? That's, like, totally, like, scientific and factual.”
“Lawl, and I thought you were lazy. You Googled it? Wow. How many minutes did you spend on something you couldn't verify? That's, like, totally, like, scientific and factual.”
I can verify the existence of loony websites just by visiting them. Which I did. The idea of there being a Common Purpose conspiracy is thus most definitely a "theory". And since your post seemed to use "CP" rather excessively, I naturally assumed you were an adherent of that "theory".
As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you are rambling on about.
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