Putting the godawful Bex and Shakil (how the hell did he not get axed?) storyline at the forefront of the show, while giving Ronnie and Roxy a relatively quiet build up was one such blunder. When you're writing out two of the show's biggest characters you don't go on and on about bin collections or a bun headed little t**t on screen for weeks.
EE Rating Last night very poor
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The episode was stunning so the ratings really don't reflect the quality of the show. Things will pick up and I'm sure there will be a twist tonight somewhere.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“The episode was stunning so the ratings really don't reflect the quality of the show. Things will pick up and I'm sure there will be a twist tonight somewhere.”
“The episode was stunning so the ratings really don't reflect the quality of the show. Things will pick up and I'm sure there will be a twist tonight somewhere.”
Dot's cat lured them to their deaths and we'll be tuning in to see if Dot can disown the cat that she's recently grown so fond of for being responsible for the death of her sort-of daughter in law?
I'm afraid any hope of an interesting twist went down with the Titanic/Mitchell sisters.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“People prefer the carters obviously
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“People prefer the carters obviously
”
Oh lmaoooo.
I thought last years episode was not as good as this years, but that rating is poor.
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Oh lmaoooo.
I thought last years episode was not as good as this years, but that rating is poor.”
“Oh lmaoooo.
I thought last years episode was not as good as this years, but that rating is poor.”
I loved last night's episode. I don't care about the ratings
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I loved last night's episode. I don't care about the ratings”
“I loved last night's episode. I don't care about the ratings”
Especially when they are low.
Last nights episode was good, but now that its rating is low, the praise is being stepped up a gear to make up for the rating falling short.
I wouldn't call EE 'stunning' Gavin Shipman.
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“I am writing to my MP
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“I am writing to my MP
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Include the phrase LICENSE PAYERS MONEY in capitals throughout.
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“
The power of the real episode that aired was that is was a simple human tragedy; an accident that could've happened to any one of us if the circumstances were dangerous enough. No revenge plots, whodunnit or stand off on the hotel roof - just a purely painful human tragedy, something which is very rare in soaps these days.”
“
The power of the real episode that aired was that is was a simple human tragedy; an accident that could've happened to any one of us if the circumstances were dangerous enough. No revenge plots, whodunnit or stand off on the hotel roof - just a purely painful human tragedy, something which is very rare in soaps these days.”
Absolutely.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I loved last night's episode. I don't care about the ratings”
“I loved last night's episode. I don't care about the ratings”
Yep, there is a little obsession here with ratings - it's always been that way, says this 2004 poster, but things have changed so much in the way things work these days. Watching live is no longer necessary. Particularly with younger demographics, catch ups and online viewings will spike over this and the social media trending suggests all people were talking about last night was EastEnders. There was also a HUGE spike in Google search for EastEnders yesterday evening.
In this age, catch up viewers and social media engagement and promotion are the real gold to soap bosses.
And I daresay that the aftermath, in the usual Monday slot, may well perform better live too.
Overnights are less and less important nowadays. In terms of numbers, EastEnders and Corrie are both doing more than absolutely fine and have nothing to worry about.
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“End. Of. The. World.
Still moaning about it over twelve hours later? Lighten up... so it wasn't your cup of tea; do you need to keep repeating "how awful" it is over various threads?”
“End. Of. The. World.
Still moaning about it over twelve hours later? Lighten up... so it wasn't your cup of tea; do you need to keep repeating "how awful" it is over various threads?”
It's a forum so people post opinions
And i was intrigued to see how many people have stopped watching and I was posting to say I can see why.
At this rate in another few years it will have dropped another few million viewers!
Originally Posted by CSFAN1999:
“EastEnders... 5.98 - 26.1%
Corrie... 6.15 - 26.0%”
“EastEnders... 5.98 - 26.1%
Corrie... 6.15 - 26.0%”
Something's not right here.
EE has a higher percentage than CS but fewer viewers?
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Oh lmaoooo.
I thought last years episode was not as good as this years, but that rating is poor.”
“Oh lmaoooo.
I thought last years episode was not as good as this years, but that rating is poor.”
I thought this year was very well done BUT I didn't care about Ronnie and Jack or whether they married or lived or died. They are both so unlikable.
Last year I did care about the characters involved and wanted to see Dean get his comeuppance so I was far more interested.
Hi de Vil
I respect your opinion but maybe you could do the same in turn.
I have never cared about ratings. I like Eastenders corrie and Emmerdale and I'm not going to say I found something bad if I didn't.
So much for everyone's opinions being valid
I respect your opinion but maybe you could do the same in turn.
I have never cared about ratings. I like Eastenders corrie and Emmerdale and I'm not going to say I found something bad if I didn't.
So much for everyone's opinions being valid
Originally Posted by Superstar99:
“Simply put EE is paying the price for SOC's boring vision of the show for the past 4 months.
You cannot ignore the criticism its getting all over FB and Twitter, also weeks of stupid bin storylines, Shakil and Bex, Kim's driving, Dot's vision/loneliness being dragged out every episode.”
“Simply put EE is paying the price for SOC's boring vision of the show for the past 4 months.
You cannot ignore the criticism its getting all over FB and Twitter, also weeks of stupid bin storylines, Shakil and Bex, Kim's driving, Dot's vision/loneliness being dragged out every episode.”
I agree but there are another group of people on this forum who can't stop praising EE and saying this is the best it's been since the 80s. Maybe what worked back then doesn't work now as the ratings aren't great, which suggests the wider audience aren't enjoying the new (old?) style quite as much.
Originally Posted by vald:
“I thought this year was very well done BUT I didn't care about Ronnie and Jack or whether they married or lived or died. They are both so unlikable.
Last year I did care about the characters involved and wanted to see Dean get his comeuppance so I was far more interested.”
“I thought this year was very well done BUT I didn't care about Ronnie and Jack or whether they married or lived or died. They are both so unlikable.
Last year I did care about the characters involved and wanted to see Dean get his comeuppance so I was far more interested.”
Yeah same I couldn't care less about Jack and Ronnie marrying and then making Mick Jack's best man just to shove Danny Dyer into a big storyline
Isn't this like the 3rd new year wedding in a row? Give it a rest already
Saying that ratings don't really mean that much these days as the way people watch things now has completely changed. I just think it is interesting considering 8m or so watched last year. That is quite a difference
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Putting the godawful Bex and Shakil (how the hell did he not get axed?) storyline at the forefront of the show, while giving Ronnie and Roxy a relatively quiet build up was one such blunder. When you're writing out two of the show's biggest characters you don't go on and on about bin collections or a bun headed little t**t on screen for weeks.”
“Putting the godawful Bex and Shakil (how the hell did he not get axed?) storyline at the forefront of the show, while giving Ronnie and Roxy a relatively quiet build up was one such blunder. When you're writing out two of the show's biggest characters you don't go on and on about bin collections or a bun headed little t**t on screen for weeks.”
Oh the Shakil/Bex thing was just atrocious, moody little git that Shakil is. Why the heck they weren't building up R&R is beyond me, well apart from the Roxy clean/not clean recent story line, which got very tedious.
Although I expected more, there are a number of factors that probably contributed to this.
-The deaths weren't promoted in order for it to be a shock
-Many people will be in relatives houses over the festive period and will all be watching around one screen
-Many people will have gone out to the pub or for a meal on New Year's Day
-EE was out of slot
-Overnights don't really count for anything anymore, as another 2 million or so will be added on iplayer, and there are countless numbers of people who record on the to to watch later.
-Ratings on BBC were down in general this year, Sherlock only got 8 million because that normally gets about 12 million.
-The deaths weren't promoted in order for it to be a shock
-Many people will be in relatives houses over the festive period and will all be watching around one screen
-Many people will have gone out to the pub or for a meal on New Year's Day
-EE was out of slot
-Overnights don't really count for anything anymore, as another 2 million or so will be added on iplayer, and there are countless numbers of people who record on the to to watch later.
-Ratings on BBC were down in general this year, Sherlock only got 8 million because that normally gets about 12 million.
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Horrible rating, but before anyone says it nothing can be read into it re disappointment over the sisters dying. No one knew for sure what was going to happen before watching.
Plus, everything on BBC One has been down this festive season anyway.”
“Horrible rating, but before anyone says it nothing can be read into it re disappointment over the sisters dying. No one knew for sure what was going to happen before watching.
Plus, everything on BBC One has been down this festive season anyway.”
Yes they did! We pretty much knew the whole episode before air due to the sun and experience tells me the sun have it right. And it was as predicted. Where was the surprise? There was ZERO twist to the spoilers months ago!
Originally Posted by Tomski12:
“Although I expected more, there are a number of factors that probably contributed to this.
-The deaths weren't promoted in order for it to be a shock
-Many people will be in relatives houses over the festive period and will all be watching around one screen
-Many people will have gone out to the pub or for a meal on New Year's Day
-EE was out of slot
-Overnights don't really count for anything anymore, as another 2 million or so will be added on iplayer, and there are countless numbers of people who record on the to to watch later.
-Ratings on BBC were down in general this year, Sherlock only got 8 million because that normally gets about 12 million.”
“Although I expected more, there are a number of factors that probably contributed to this.
-The deaths weren't promoted in order for it to be a shock
-Many people will be in relatives houses over the festive period and will all be watching around one screen
-Many people will have gone out to the pub or for a meal on New Year's Day
-EE was out of slot
-Overnights don't really count for anything anymore, as another 2 million or so will be added on iplayer, and there are countless numbers of people who record on the to to watch later.
-Ratings on BBC were down in general this year, Sherlock only got 8 million because that normally gets about 12 million.”
I take it this is a new thing then, as the ratings usually seem to be high on NYD...
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Especially when they are low.
Last nights episode was good, but now that its rating is low, the praise is being stepped up a gear to make up for the rating falling short.
I wouldn't call EE 'stunning' Gavin Shipman.”
“Especially when they are low.
Last nights episode was good, but now that its rating is low, the praise is being stepped up a gear to make up for the rating falling short.
I wouldn't call EE 'stunning' Gavin Shipman.”
I may be dumb but what do rating have to do with peoples opinions on whether an individual viewer liked it or not - the reverse of your argument could also be said to be true based on post in this thread 'People are using last nights rating to step up the hat towards last night'
Originally Posted by BomoLad:
“It's rare because people who write soaps usually know that there are no advantages to doing it. When you write a TV drama usually if you're killing off two major characters you do so in a way that's going to allow you to leverage the next big story line going forward.
This is why in Corrie, Phelan's comeuppance isn't going to be him being randomly hit by a bus for no reason. Or why in Emmerdale, Emma Barton's climax to the current story line isn't going to be her being electrocuted trying to rewire a plug next Tuesday.
Random acts of 'human tragedy' are fine if you're killing off a relatively minor character who's not been in it for long on a Thursday afternoon in mid August. But as the climax to your big new years day episode it's really, really poor.”
“It's rare because people who write soaps usually know that there are no advantages to doing it. When you write a TV drama usually if you're killing off two major characters you do so in a way that's going to allow you to leverage the next big story line going forward.
This is why in Corrie, Phelan's comeuppance isn't going to be him being randomly hit by a bus for no reason. Or why in Emmerdale, Emma Barton's climax to the current story line isn't going to be her being electrocuted trying to rewire a plug next Tuesday.
Random acts of 'human tragedy' are fine if you're killing off a relatively minor character who's not been in it for long on a Thursday afternoon in mid August. But as the climax to your big new years day episode it's really, really poor.”
My feelings exactly. As a plot and something new...fine but not major characters and not one as complex as ronnie
Originally Posted by Ten_Ben:
“Something's not right here.
EE has a higher percentage than CS but fewer viewers? ”
“Something's not right here.
EE has a higher percentage than CS but fewer viewers?
”
They are the percentage of the total viewers watching TV at that time. So EE had a higher percentage because fewer people were watching TV from 7-8 than from 8-8:30
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Especially when they are low.
Last nights episode was good, but now that its rating is low, the praise is being stepped up a gear to make up for the rating falling short.
I wouldn't call EE 'stunning' Gavin Shipman.”
“Especially when they are low.
Last nights episode was good, but now that its rating is low, the praise is being stepped up a gear to make up for the rating falling short.
I wouldn't call EE 'stunning' Gavin Shipman.”
You're doing the opposite
I don't think you can take much notice of ratings, there are so many ways to watch the soaps now.
I imagine the ratings would be a lot higher if they added iPlayer, catch up numbers etc
I imagine the ratings would be a lot higher if they added iPlayer, catch up numbers etc
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