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Mr Oleo Strut
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Would not disagree but I think you have to look properly at where the rot started and that was with Blair, possibly even with Major in terms of the EU.
Quite right, but Mrs May only made things much worse in her years as Home Secretary. We need our borders to be properly controlled again and she's not the person to do it.
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The poster actually said "The EU Has Failed Us All."

And it hgas done.

Except, of course, for the leaders. They have made a packet from it, to the detriment of many.
The EU certainly hasn't failed Farage. He draws his big, fat EU salary for doing nothing except being obnoxious.
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Quite right, but Mrs May only made things much worse in her years as Home Secretary. We need our borders to be properly controlled again and she's not the person to do it.
So you agree that EU immigration needs to be controlled by cancelling our membership of the Single Market (and, therefore, Freedom of Movement) returning sovereignty to the UK?

The EU certainly hasn't failed Farage. He draws his big, fat EU salary for doing nothing except being obnoxious.
Yet, you oppose the commitment and tenacity of the man who has tirelessly campaigned for a referendum for over at least 20 years and was instrumental in forcing Cameron to give us that referendum?

The EU hasn't failed any of the MEPs, bureaucrats and appointed ones either as it bathes them all in a sea of entitlement, righteousness and arrogance where they genuinely believe that they are the annointed ones. At least Farage is telling us what really happens there and is fighting to lose his seat in the EU Parliament. That in itself tells us how concerned he is about the direction of the EU.

Talk about having your cake and eating it !
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Crossing borders illegally which is what was happening.
Crossing a border while accompanied by police (who didn't arrest them, presumably) and going to an official holding area (where they weren't arrested, presumably) is what was happening.
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You are still avoiding addressing the criticism of it. It was not a pic taken anywhere in the UK. It was not a reality here in the UK...yet the uneducated lapped it up.
No, the "uneducated" lap up the idea that those economic migrants/refugees/illegal immigrants won't eventually qualify to enter the UK through FoM.
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Now let's turn that frown upside down and into a positive. Think of the Brits here now. Look at all the opportunities being in the EU presents to us. We can choose to live and work in Sweden, Italy, France or Germany. Traffic flows in both directions. Outters could do with remembering this.
And "inners" could do with remembering that immigration from European countries happened before FoM became a policy. I worked in France in the '80s. I found a job, got my visa, worked, contributed to their economy and returned to England when the job finished. I could've stayed and applied for another work visa and even chosen to become a French citizen, but I chose not to.

People from Europe have always gone to live and work in each other's countries. The difference then was that there were immigration controls and, with them, respect for the individual nation states and their history, culture and governance.

By having FoM wages have been drawn downwards for most people, while the massive increase in rents and house prices has diminished the value of salaries phenomenally, all due to over population.

This came about largely from 2004 onwards when New Labour decided to allow FoM from the New EU members in Eastern Europe.

It seems to me that the UK creates jobs which in turn attracts unprecedented numbers of the unemployed from the failing Euro Zone.
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The last time I came through customs at airports, I was ages. Iris checks, checks by humans...the lot. This whole 'open borders' business is a total myth cooked up by those who want us out of the EU. Anyone who travels a lot knows that the nonsense Ookip (and similar) peddle is simply nonsense.
How many brexiters do you think use airports? Seeing as it means you've been to or come back from a dirty foreign country. And means they have to own one of those nasty brown passports with "European Union" on it (rather than a great british blue passport).
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Crossing a border while accompanied by police (who didn't arrest them, presumably) and going to an official holding area (where they weren't arrested, presumably) is what was happening.
You said they were going from Croatia into a holding area in Slovenia. I was asking how they arrived in Croatia in the first place. Any ideas?
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I was simply reminding Outters that the traffic flows in both directions. The UK being in the EU is of benefit to the UK. Outters should be much more open minded and less insular.
Indeed but still did not address the issue.
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Is Farage anti-gay?

I wish someone would ask him why he's accepted to be the guest of an anti- gay Republican governor at Trump's inauguration. Couldn't he accept an invite from someone else?
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You said they were going from Croatia into a holding area in Slovenia. I was asking how they arrived in Croatia in the first place. Any ideas?
Their fear was that they would be stopped if the borders closed. They weren't. They were even escorted by police, not arrested for doing something illegal.
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Is Farage anti-gay?

I wish someone would ask him why he's accepted to be the guest of an anti- gay Republican governor at Trump's inauguration. Couldn't he accept an invite from someone else?
I think he'd be whatever he was asked to be in order to get an invite to Trump's inauguration. I think he'd sell his granny for less.
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How many brexiters do you think use airports? Seeing as it means you've been to or come back from a dirty foreign country. And means they have to own one of those nasty brown passports with "European Union" on it (rather than a great british blue passport).
Well that's a pretty constructive post......Not!!
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Their fear was that they would be stopped if the borders closed. They weren't. They were even escorted by police, not arrested for doing something illegal.
I did not ask what their fear was I asked how they arrived in Croatia and how did they get across the border into Croatia, they were escorted by police from Croatia to Slovenia.
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Yet, you oppose the commitment and tenacity of the man who has tirelessly campaigned for a referendum for over at least 20 years and was instrumental in forcing Cameron to give us that referendum?

The EU hasn't failed any of the MEPs, bureaucrats and appointed ones either as it bathes them all in a sea of entitlement, righteousness and arrogance where they genuinely believe that they are the annointed ones. At least Farage is telling us what really happens there and is fighting to lose his seat in the EU Parliament. That in itself tells us how concerned he is about the direction of the EU.

Talk about having your cake and eating it !
A referendum was always going to be the worst possible way to decide the issue of EU membership (in my humble opinion of course). It has already proved hugely divisive and has left the UK in a chaotic state in its preparations for Brexit.

Farage campaigning for a referendum, securing it and then winning the thing could end up being a millstone around his neck rather than a glorious episode in British history.
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I did not ask what their fear was I asked how they arrived in Croatia and how did they get across the border into Croatia, they were escorted by police from Croatia to Slovenia.
Would it have made a better poster?

"Here are lots of people. We're not sure if absolutely all of them got into Croatia legally, despite the fact that none of them appear to have been arrested for breaking the law, which is how these things usually happen, so let's leave the EU."

I believe that's the fair portrayal you mentioned upthread.
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Would it have made a better poster?

"Here are lots of people. We're not sure if absolutely all of them got into Croatia legally, despite the fact that none of them appear to have been arrested for breaking the law, which is how these things usually happen, so let's leave the EU."

I believe that's the fair portrayal you mentioned upthread.
No it is not. Here is a poster of many people on the move in Europe, many of whom have crossed several borders illegally and despite many breaking numerous laws in the countries they have entered and transited none appear to have been arrested. This is a demonstration of the EU unable to work properly, let's leave.
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No it is not. Here is a poster of many people on the move in Europe, many of whom have crossed several borders illegally and despite many breaking numerous laws in the countries they have entered and transited none appear to have been arrested. This is a demonstration of the EU unable to work properly, let's leave.
What about the "It's highly unlikely any of them will ever set foot in the UK" bit?
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Let's have a look.

Here is a poster of many people on the move in Europe,
Yep.

many of whom have crossed several borders illegally
Prove it.

and despite many breaking numerous laws in the countries they have entered and transited
Prove it.

none appear to have been arrested.
Yay! So if we take all the factual stuff, plus your final claim, and leave out the stuff you have no proof of, this is what's left.

Here is a poster of many people on the move in Europe, none appear to have been arrested.

This is a demonstration of the EU unable to work properly, let's leave.
Which is pretty much what I said.
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What about the "It's highly unlikely any of them will ever set foot in the UK" bit?
The point I have made is we have no control over the governments of other EU countries as regards to whom they confer citizenship. If a German parliament decides that all coming in can be fast tracked as German citizens we have no say in the matter. Also realistically in ten years time many can arrive in the UK as EU citizens and claim all the rights associated with that. IT was 'highly unlikely' many Poles would move to the UK post 2005 and look how that 'highly unlikely' worked out.
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What about the "It's highly unlikely any of them will ever set foot in the UK" bit?
Yeah cos there weren't thousands in Calais trying to smuggle themselves across on lorries or speedboats across the channel. Dream on!
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nigel for pm...hes the only one who speaks any sense to me. not many callers disagree with him , i wonder if they vet the callers first.
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Let's have a look.



Yep.



Prove it.



Prove it.



Yay! So if we take all the factual stuff, plus your final claim, and leave out the stuff you have no proof of, this is what's left.



Which is pretty much what I said.
Have we been watching other news reports over the last few years, border fences being broken down, illegal entrants to Greece from Turkey (a safe country), trains being stormed as police lines are broken. Refuse strewn across the countryside, stones thrown at police, Budapest station closed as crowds tried to force onto trains.
The UN specifically states that asylum seekers are duty bound to obey all the rules and regulations (and the laws) of any host country to which they are seeking refuge.
You seem to think that mass law breaking occurring with very few arrests made is the same as no laws being broken. That is a very sad state of affairs.
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The point I have made is we have no control over the governments of other EU countries as regards to whom they confer citizenship. If a German parliament decides that all coming in can be fast tracked as German citizens we have no say in the matter. Also realistically in ten years time many can arrive in the UK as EU citizens and claim all the rights associated with that. IT was 'highly unlikely' many Poles would move to the UK post 2005 and look how that 'highly unlikely' worked out.
To the best of my knowledge, it takes many years for refugees to attain German citizenship and even then they have to show they are fluent in the German language. The numbers moving on to the UK in 10 or 15 years time would be tiny,
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nigel for pm...hes the only one who speaks any sense to me. not many callers disagree with him , i wonder if they vet the callers first.
He can't even manage MP, let alone PM.
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