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EE A Much better ending for R&R
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Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
THIS would have been the best exit for R&R

'Ronnie is blackmailed by the Whites over Carl and FATBOYS deaths

She's distraught as she didn't know FATBOY was dead

On her wedding day she is told to deliver a car full of drugs to an address

When she gets there she finds FATBOY living there. He's been told to not contact anyone in the square or Dot will be harmed

The police arrive (the Whites have set her up)

She evades them and heads back the square, packs a bag and tries to leave but Roxy jumps in with her

They drive off and make it to Dover

Just as they think they're home and dry the police spot them

A police chase (with helicopter) across the coast ends on a cliff

Thelma and Louise style Plunge into the sea and then nothing

A couple of weeks pass and Jack receives a phone call

We cut to the back of a woman standing on a Portuguese road

We pan to see Ronnie who is joined by Roxy. She tells Jack they will be fine and they can arrange to meet up in a few days

She hangs up, throws the phone off a cliff and they get into a soft top, sunglasses on and drive triumphantly into the sunset'

NOW THIS would have been an exit worthy of these two characters

Completely missed a trick here EE
KornerKabin
02-01-2017
Utter garbage.

EDIT: Sorry Damon, that was unfair and not nice of me. I apologise. I still think that this is a silly, contrived and sensationalised plot that sounds really ridiculous.

I am happy with what happened.
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“Utter garbage.

EDIT: Sorry Damon, that was unfair and not nice of me. I apologise. I still think that this is a silly, contrived and sensationalised plot that sounds really ridiculous.

I am happy with what happened.”

Everybody on here always hates everything

It's so draining

All storylines are contrived because they don't happen in real life, so that is a baseless criticism

This would have been much more feel good and triumphant
bean_of_sb
02-01-2017
I'm sorry, but I disagree. As I just said on another thread, I personally much preferred this exit to one which focused on Carl, Charlie or Fatboy.

It stripped away all of the sensationalist plots that the sisters have endured.

They died as they lived their lives, tragically and inseparably. There was a real haunting beauty in that last scene which truly put them together forever.
KornerKabin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by bean_of_sb:
“I'm sorry, but I disagree. As I just said on another thread, I personally much preferred this exit to one which focused on Carl, Charlie or Fatboy.

It stripped away all of the sensationalist plots that the sisters have endured.

They died as they lived their lives, tragically and inseparably. There was a real haunting beauty in that last scene which truly put them together forever.”

Love your description bean, especially 'tragically and inseparably'.

I also agree that having them die in an accident positioned their exit as a real human tragedy rather than the product of a convoluted or sensationalised plot, though the forum is quite clearly divided on that.
KornerKabin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Everybody on here always hates everything

It's so draining

All storylines are contrived because they don't happen in real life, so that is a baseless criticism

This would have been much more feel good and triumphant”

Everyone hates what I say about Coronation Street, which I also find draining. I apologised for calling your post 'garbage' but I cannot agree with your ideas Damon - sorry.

Having two women die tragically in an accident at a swimming pool is far more 'realistic' than what you have proposed. Maybe it is baseless criticism, but then surely everything anyone writes on DS could be described in the same way?
Kirk Angel
02-01-2017
This silly ending would send Scott Malsen's twitter and all the cast members maximum 'furious'.
BomoLad
02-01-2017
To be honest anything would have been better than 'random accident'. It's like the product of an incomplete creative meeting several months ago

"Okay, so I've got this idea. Ronnie and Roxy die on Ronnie's wedding day in a swimming pool and......"

*FIRE ALARM GOES OFF*

"...we'll continue this later"

But they never did. Maybe a freak series of events occurred; unmissable dental appointments, traffic problems, flash flooding - meaning that the creative meetings never commenced and that's all we ended up with.
MR_Pitkin
02-01-2017
How many more threads are you going to create on the same subject?
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Don't get me wrong

I thought it was absolutely beautiful.

For me as a Ronnie fan it was just unbearably tragic

I really REALLY didn't want her to die

I always though the sisters deserved a big epic blockbuster of an exit

One in which they lived. They're Mitchell's after all.

An exit which harkened back to Grants 1999 exit

The ending we got, whilst artistically was incredible and perfectly executed

It's just to sad for me to comprehend at the moment

EE will never be the same for me now.

And I'm a fan of 22 years
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by MR_Pitkin:
“How many more threads are you going to create on the same subject?”

As many as I bleeding well want. Who are you to tel me other wise

We've just lost two HUGE characters

And I'm entitled to talk about it not even 24 hours later

You can moan in a years time if still taking about it

For now, back off
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Kirk Angel:
“This silly ending would send Scott Malsen's twitter and all the cast members maximum 'furious'.”

Oh look. Someone thinking they're being clever

Hit the road doll
bean_of_sb
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by BomoLad:
“To be honest anything would have been better than 'random accident'. It's like the product of an incomplete creative meeting several months ago

"Okay, so I've got this idea. Ronnie and Roxy die on Ronnie's wedding day in a swimming pool and......"

*FIRE ALARM GOES OFF*

"...we'll continue this later"

But they never did. Maybe a freak series of events occurred; unmissable dental appointments, traffic problems, flash flooding - meaning that the creative meetings never commenced and that's all we ended up with.”

I can't agree at all. Ronnie dying on the happiest day of her life, trying to save her Sister, is the perfect way to go. She isn't a Janine or a Mad May who should go out in a blaze of glory. She lived and died as a tragic heroine.
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“Everyone hates what I say about Coronation Street, which I also find draining. I apologised for calling your post 'garbage' but I cannot agree with your ideas Damon - sorry.

Having two women die tragically in an accident at a swimming pool is far more 'realistic' than what you have proposed. Maybe it is baseless criticism, but then surely everything anyone writes on DS could be described in the same way?”

It's a soap
It's not meant to be realistic

It's meant to be heightened and fun

There's enough gritty misery in life without TV being the same 24/7

If it's not gritty and real people dismiss it now

Infuriating
MR_Pitkin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“As many as I bleeding well want. Who are you to tel me other wise

We've just lost two HUGE characters

And I'm entitled to talk about it not even 24 hours later

You can moan in a years time if still taking about it

For now, back off”

The whole front page is littered with any number of suitable threads for you to pass comment on.

Why clutter the page up with more?
Damon_Plembury
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by MR_Pitkin:
“The whole front page is littered with any number of suitable threads for you to pass comment on.

Why clutter the page up with more?”

You cannot condense a vast subject matter into a 'one size fits all' thread

This post is about alternative exits
KornerKabin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“It's a soap
It's not meant to be realistic

It's meant to be heightened and fun

There's enough gritty misery in life without TV being the same 24/7

If it's not gritty and real people dismiss it now

Infuriating”

This is your opinion though. You seem to have lost all ability to have a serious discussion as you're clearly irate.

Enjoy your day Damon, take care and don't let things get to you.
Kirk Angel
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“You cannot condense a vast subject matter into a 'one size fits all' thread

This post is about alternative exits”

There's already a thread on that.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2196385
MR_Pitkin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“You cannot condense a vast subject matter into a 'one size fits all' thread”

Yes you can.
KornerKabin
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by Kirk Angel:
“There's already a thread on that.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2196385”

Sorry but
mumbles26
02-01-2017
I'm happy with the ending but I'm always ready to read other peoples' ideas, including Damons

I lack the imagination, so I'm grateful for those who have that ability.

Many threads get lost during the course of a few hours so starting a new one with a slightly different angle is perfectly justified.

Post away Damon.
BomoLad
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by bean_of_sb:
“I can't agree at all. Ronnie dying on the happiest day of her life, trying to save her Sister, is the perfect way to go. She isn't a Janine or a Mad May who should go out in a blaze of glory. She lived and died as a tragic heroine.”

That's a nice back drop but still a bit underwhelming.

Maybe:

"it was supposed to the happiest day of her life but an unexpected betrayal from an unexpected source ensures that the big day ends in tragedy for the Mitchell sisters."

Maybe have Roxy's drug problems escalate in the weeks before Christmas, a dealer gets heavy. She confides in Jay that she's starting a fresh with Ronnie in Ongar and leaves Jay some money to settle her debt with the dealer, but Jay's own drug issues are deeper than we realise. Rather than pass on the money to settle Roxy's debt and getting her off the hook he buys more drugs. The dealer comes calling and Jay doesn't have the money, so now he's gunning for Roxy....

...etc. You could do all that and still do the 'died on what was supposed to be the happiest day of her life' thing but this way you'd have a legacy of how can Jay cope knowing he was the reason why Roxy was killed and the future implications of his decision.
piggypug
02-01-2017
I like your idea, Damon
hulakula
02-01-2017
I haven't watched Eastenders in a long time but tuned in last night to watch this episode. I thought it was a very powerful ending for two popular characters and what made it even for tragic was that it could happen in real life. Death, accidential or otherwise is dramatic enough, it isn't necessary to introduce any additional twists. I wouldn't have liked your prosposed ending as much as it is so far removed from reality that I wouldn't have found it as relatable.
BomoLad
02-01-2017
Originally Posted by hulakula:
“I haven't watched Eastenders in a long time but tuned in last night to watch this episode. I thought it was a very powerful ending for two popular characters and what made it even for tragic was that it could happen in real life. Death, accidential or otherwise is dramatic enough, it isn't necessary to introduce any additional twists. I wouldn't have liked your prosposed ending as much as it is so far removed from reality that I wouldn't have found it as relatable.”

But what's going to keep you coming back tonight?

There's nothing about the death scenes that are going to keep people who don't usually watch, coming back. You can bemoan twists and plots but these are the things that used to keep people watching. Unless people really want to see Dot say 'Oh I say!" and fall backwards onto a fainting couch when she hears the news, then really the mileage out of the death is non-existent and a bit of a waste.

Boohooing and one of those weird soap funerals where nobody not already a current character can make it for some reason. That's it. I maintain that for a big end-of-year (beginning, technically) storyline climax that's quite underwhelming.
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