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Kate Oates or Stuart Blackburn?


View Poll Results: Which Corrie producer do you prefer?
Kate Oates 44 69.84%
Stuart Blackburn 5 7.94%
Neither 14 22.22%
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:34
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Spotted one for EE and thought I'd do one for Corrie. Of the two producers, whose work do you prefer, and why?

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Old 02-01-2017, 15:08
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Kate Oates for me.

So far, since she arrived the writing/dialogue and the storylines have improved. I rarely miss an episode compared to when Stuart Blackburn was in charge, and I would miss an episode and still know what has happened.
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:10
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Kate Oates is doing well so far, I would not say fantastic as i hope yet though, as the show is a little inconsistent. But shes far better than Blackburn!
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:15
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So glad you gave us the third option boogie!
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:19
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So glad you gave us the third option boogie!
I've noticed a lot of your posts about Corrie. I'm not quite as negative about the show, but I do agree with a lot of your points. Two things I am interested in though. Do you see the show ever going back to how it was? Do you think the problem is the producer or her brief?
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:23
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Kate Oates for me.

So far, since she arrived the writing/dialogue and the storylines have improved. I rarely miss an episode compared to when Stuart Blackburn was in charge, and I would miss an episode and still know what has happened.
I agree, the dialogue is much better again and I love the way she has refreshed the Barlows and made them into another good family unit again.

The storylines are interesting and it doesnt feel like it is plodding anymore.

My fave EP of recent years has to be PC though
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:37
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My fave EP of recent years has to be PC though
Agree with this.

Kate Oates, but not my much. She's improved it a bit but it could be a WHOLE lot better.
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Old 02-01-2017, 16:19
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I won't vote as I've said Kate Oates needs a year at least before we can judge her. However I do find the show more watchable now than under Blackburn but it's still not in a good place at all.
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Old 02-01-2017, 16:20
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Kate Oates.
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Old 02-01-2017, 19:32
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I've noticed a lot of your posts about Corrie. I'm not quite as negative about the show, but I do agree with a lot of your points. Two things I am interested in though. Do you see the show ever going back to how it was? Do you think the problem is the producer or her brief?
Never ever ever.

Most people don't want the Corrie of old sadly - and majority rules. I've watched since 1979 and while I adore the history and that there are characters remaining from episode 1 - it's not the same beast, it's related but has been crossbred
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Old 02-01-2017, 19:35
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Neither. The show is as contrived and ridiculous as ever under her.
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:50
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The show has definitely gained a layer of watchability under Kate Oates which it didn't have under Stuart Blackburn. However, the show is still seriously struggling to produce material of high quality and seems eternally stuck in this rut. As a show, it doesn't seem to want to admit that it's lost its way and thus no proactive steps are being taken to try and improve it, which I think demonstrates the arrogance of the powers that be (not necessarily Kate).
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Old 03-01-2017, 03:51
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Never ever ever.

Most people don't want the Corrie of old sadly - and majority rules. I've watched since 1979 and while I adore the history and that there are characters remaining from episode 1 - it's not the same beast, it's related but has been crossbred
It's not really that sort of situation anymore, the world itself has changed, back in the 60s-Early 2000s, people had quite a limited choice of TV, Sky took some of Corrie's viewers, but now the internet is everywhere, no one will sit down to watch an episode of Corrie unless it is interesting, the drama always has to be at the forefront now, to entice viewers into watching, more and more people are moving to on demand TV now, and you can't really blame them for not wanting to be a slave to the television schedules anymore. Just look at the ratings for Coronation Street in 2007 (and the show wasnt even at its best then), you'd regularly see the show hitting 9-10m, these days it can only manage 6-7m on most days. Back in the 60s-90s people had no real choice for TV, so they watched what was on. Now, if a soap has a bad period, people think "why am I watching this when I could be watching Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead ect.". Corrie has had to change, it is unavoidable, and it is irreversable, Corrie, if it wishes to survive, will continue on evolving, perhaps one day it will even be a fully online TV show.
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Old 03-01-2017, 16:52
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For me it's definitely Oates as there is so much bubbling away nicely. There are still some blips and it's not as good as I originally thought it would be, but improvements have definitely been made.

Gail has regained her mojo as a strong matriarch once again
Peter and Daniel's returns to the show have been brilliant so far
The Nazirs are a stronger unit as a result of Sharif's departure
Newcomers Shona and Nathan are showing promise
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:01
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Unlike most on here I had no issues with Blackburn, but I do think Kate Oates had made the show more entertaining. I love Phelan, Gary/Sarah, Todd/Billy, the reinvention of the Barlows and Bethany's issues. The only negative I have for Oates is the focus on Maria, she takes up too much screen time these days.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:02
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Blackburn had some interesting ideas like the revenge porn story with Steph, but poor writing was always an issue. His only success points were Hayley's cancer (which wasn't without its issues), the live episode and Kylie's exit.
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:06
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Unlike most on here I had no issues with Blackburn, but I do think Kate Oates had made the show more entertaining. I love Phelan, Gary/Sarah, Todd/Billy, the reinvention of the Barlows and Bethany's issues. The only negative I have for Oates is the focus on Maria, she takes up too much screen time these days.
Maria has been one of the very best things about Kate Oates for me so far!! Not so much the Caz stuff though that was a means to an end but under Blackburn she was given absolutely nothing, whereas Kate has taken the character, used her history on the show, both recent & further back & her connections to other characters & placed her firmly back where she belongs as one of the show's unsung stars!!
Absolutely agree with you re Sarah, Gary, Bethany, Todd (tnough tbf his rehabilitation had already started under Blackburn) and the introduction of Daniel/reintroduction of Peter!!
Adam has been a massive disappointment so far for me, way too much like a male Tracy which is NEVER going to be a good thing!! Toyah will prove to be a great return too , though I don't really buy her & Peter so far!!

Corrie is still a long long way from perfect but anyone who doesn't think it's better than the stuff Blackburn was churning out week in week out has been watching a very different show to me for the last 6 months!!
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:07
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Stuart Blackburn. I never thought I'd say that
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:11
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Stuart Blackburn. I never thought I'd say that
To be honest his first few months weren't as awful as this.

Phil Collinson was much better earlier on before he started resorting to stunts or putting characters in hospital every week.

Kate Oates stuff has been rubbish and just goes in circles. Exact same thing every time.
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:12
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Stuart Blackburn. I never thought I'd say that
Really? What do you think Kate Oates has done wrong with Corrie?
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:13
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The Connors V Barlows seems like a blackburn story

A random feud that came out of nowhere and has terrible writing with a bloke who thinks hris smart and will inevitably lose. She said stick to better storylines
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:18
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Really? What do you think Kate Oates has done wrong with Corrie?
The Mary storyline and caz/Maria.

I'm liking the Barlow stuff but hooking toyah Peter up is silly
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:27
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I think a big problem is that compared to the 1970s and 1980s there have just been too many entrances and exits of characters so the viewer never gets a chance to know them. Plus the fact that the stories are way too over the top, and sensational.
Coronation Street would be much better going back to 2 episodes per week. I know it's not going to happen. Sometimes it feels like it's trying to compete with other soaps for the most outlandish storylines, and not even the best actors in the world (which Coronation Street doesn't have), can make it plausible.
I hope this new lady in charge will look at what made Coronation Street such a success in the past, rather than go down the road of Brookside, and end up killing a once respected programme.
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:27
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The Mary storyline and caz/Maria.

I'm liking the Barlow stuff but hooking toyah Peter up is silly
I liked Mary's story, they should have kept her son in it longer though. Now the Maria stuff wasn't the greatest but it is better than most of the stuff going on at Emmerdale.
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:41
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It's not really that sort of situation anymore, the world itself has changed, back in the 60s-Early 2000s, people had quite a limited choice of TV, Sky took some of Corrie's viewers, but now the internet is everywhere, no one will sit down to watch an episode of Corrie unless it is interesting, the drama always has to be at the forefront now, to entice viewers into watching, more and more people are moving to on demand TV now, and you can't really blame them for not wanting to be a slave to the television schedules anymore. Just look at the ratings for Coronation Street in 2007 (and the show wasnt even at its best then), you'd regularly see the show hitting 9-10m, these days it can only manage 6-7m on most days. Back in the 60s-90s people had no real choice for TV, so they watched what was on. Now, if a soap has a bad period, people think "why am I watching this when I could be watching Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead ect.". Corrie has had to change, it is unavoidable, and it is irreversable, Corrie, if it wishes to survive, will continue on evolving, perhaps one day it will even be a fully online TV show.
Hmm not sure about this.
One thing any programme can't do is forget who it's audience is. True, some people may think ""why am I watching this when I could be watching Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead ect.". However a soap opera set in Manchester can't compete on those terms with the programmes you've mentioned, and maintain what is unique about it. It can't be done.
True, it can't still live in the 1960s, and nor should it. But it shouldn't mean that situations can't be at least believable and that the audience has more of a concentration span than a goldfish!
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