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Old 04-01-2017, 22:54
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Come on Kirk, if you can read between the lines the cost is too high. At least think about it.
I see your point, James but I a little bit of me agrees with Dave that maybe they are the ones who are tolling and on a wind up. I always see the same names saying the same things and it always leads down to personal insults.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a villain but it seems a few posters can't handle that and I find it ironic that some of those that call King Phelan a bully are the ones who are doing the bullying themselves because they don't like someone enjoying a fictional character.

My posts are usually fun comments. It's not done to get anybody wound up. Most posters seem to realize that. But sometimes if someone takes it wrong and gets nasty I'm more than willing to return it. If I think a post is nonsense I'll express that opinion and argue why I think so. But one thing I won't do is post on a subject or say anything to someone that is obviously distressed by it. Some are fragile and their wishes should be respected. Mental and physical wellbeing comes before any posts, funny or serious or any other kind.
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Old Yesterday, 07:06
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Well winding up fellow posters is not really the intention of this forum. Let's discuss the characters & storylines in a more interesting & relevant manner.
So what is winding people up the fact I am having a bit of fun about a fictional character or the fact it's me that is doing it?

Because I am getting the impression that it's not what I am posting that is winding some people up but the fact it's me, there are hundreds if not thousands of people posting on the soap section of DS yet it seems to be just me that is being singled out and berated for what I post, may I suggest if that is the case I do believe there is an ignore function on the forum feel free to use it.

PS, no I'm not being paranoid.
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Old Yesterday, 07:47
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Still doesn't change the fact it is repetitive and he has ridiculous amount of plot armour. Oh yeah and the lack of follow up to him and Vinny scamming the street.
Yes we did - we had that scene in the Rovers. How is anyone going to stop Vinny? He covered his tracks so well even Phelan couldn't catch him

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So what is winding people up the fact I am having a bit of fun about a fictional character or the fact it's me that is doing it?

Because I am getting the impression that it's not what I am posting that is winding some people up but the fact it's me, there are hundreds if not thousands of people posting on the soap section of DS yet it seems to be just me that is being singled out and berated for what I post, may I suggest if that is the case I do believe there is an ignore function on the forum feel free to use it.

PS, no I'm not being paranoid.
Well if you was paranoid it would be with good reason as you seemed to have been singled out by at least 3 people who are accusing you of winding them up for making jokes about Phelan, others have been doing the same but have been ignored for doing so, from what I have read of what you have posted I can't see why it would be considered an intentional wind up, I suggest the wind up lies with how your comments are perceived by others and that is often the problem with the written word on a forum such as this at least that is what I hope is happening rather than the alternative of it being just because it's you that is posting.
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Well if you was paranoid it would be with good reason as you seemed to have been singled out by at least 3 people who are accusing you of winding them up for making jokes about Phelan, others have been doing the same but have been ignored for doing so, from what I have read of what you have posted I can't see why it would be considered an intentional wind up, I suggest the wind up lies with how your comments are perceived by others and that is often the problem with the written word on a forum such as this at least that is what I hope is happening rather than the alternative of it being just because it's you that is posting.
Thanks, as I have explained several times now all I am doing is having a bit of fun there is not intention to wind-up anyone as someone else mentioned I do think some people are being over sensitive about the matter, anyway enough about me.
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Old Yesterday, 08:19
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Thanks, as I have explained several times now all I am doing is having a bit of fun there is not intention to wind-up anyone as someone else mentioned I do think some people are being over sensitive about the matter, anyway enough about me.
Hopefully now that you have explained yet again the accusations will cease,
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Thanks, as I have explained several times now all I am doing is having a bit of fun there is not intention to wind-up anyone as someone else mentioned I do think some people are being over sensitive about the matter, anyway enough about me.
The fact that I dreamt about Phelan last night shows just how much I loathe the character. He got a fitting end - fell into a giant cement mixer at his scam flats "development" and was mashed to pieces. When the cement was laid, all that was left of him was his smug mouth and that was trampled on by all the people he'd conned out of £15,000 .

Hopefully that's how he will meet his end - no villain (fictional or otherwise) can get away with nasty deeds forever.

davejc64 - apologies if you think I have a go at you more than others (not intended), although you do seem to genuinely enjoy your windups whereas some others have just jumped on the bandwagon to be one of the boys - they're easy to ignore. Seems to be mainly women who hate Phelan and the mock hero worship.
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The fact that I dreamt about Phelan last night shows just how much I loathe the character. He got a fitting end - fell into a giant cement mixer at his scam flats "development" and was mashed to pieces. When the cement was laid, all that was left of him was his smug mouth and that was trampled on by all the people he'd conned out of £15,000 .

Hopefully that's how he will meet his end - no villain (fictional or otherwise) can get away with nasty deeds forever.

davejc64 - apologies if you think I have a go at you more than others (not intended), although you do seem to genuinely enjoy your windups whereas some others have just jumped on the bandwagon to be one of the boys - they're easy to ignore. Seems to be mainly women who hate Phelan and the mock hero worship.
For me it's just the humour not about winding anyone up, I find humour in the soaps the way certain characters are portrayed as baddies and that other characters are either too thick to see what's going on or they are cowering and simpering whenever the baddie is around them, I still have the scene of Anna stamping up and down and growling like a demented bear when she was smashing up Phalan's van for me that was hilarious I know it probably wasn't supposed to be and that just made it funnier, that's my sense of humour I'm afraid, like it or lump it.
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For me it's just the humour not about winding anyone up, I find humour in the soaps the way certain characters are portrayed as baddies and that other characters are either too thick to see what's going on or they are cowering and simpering whenever the baddie is around them, I still have the scene of Anna stamping up and down and growling like a demented bear when she was smashing up Phalan's van for me that was hilarious I know it probably wasn't supposed to be and that just made it funnier, that's my sense of humour I'm afraid, like it or lump it.
I don't find any portrayal of nastiness funny, probably because I had to deal with a lot of it in real life when working.

The funnies scene ever in Corrie for me was Blanche at the AA meeting with Peter.
Corrie has lost its humour - it's starting to mimic EE, which I stopped watching years ago because it was nothing but thugs, doom and gloom. There were happy stories in the past mixed in with the darker ones. Now it's just plotting and threats.

Better villains than Phelan were Lewis (just quietly conning people) and Richard Hillman (conning and killing, but not menacing or threatening). Both intelligent and charming. No-one hero-worshipped them even for fun. Phelan is just a psychopathic caveman by comparison.

So why has Phelan become almost a cult figure for some, while other villains haven't?
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Old Yesterday, 10:27
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I don't find any portrayal of nastiness funny, probably because I had to deal with a lot of it in real life when working.

The funnies scene ever in Corrie for me was Blanche at the AA meeting with Peter.
Corrie has lost its humour - it's starting to mimic EE, which I stopped watching years ago because it was nothing but thugs, doom and gloom. There were happy stories in the past mixed in with the darker ones. Now it's just plotting and threats.

Better villains than Phelan were Lewis (just quietly conning people) and Richard Hillman (conning and killing, but not menacing or threatening). Both intelligent and charming. No-one hero-worshipped them even for fun. Phelan is just a psychopathic caveman by comparison.

So why has Phelan become almost a cult figure for some, while other villains haven't?
For me it's that I don't find him at all menacing and find his attempts to menace people amusing but then that's just me, like you say the other bad guys were more subtle and so I didn't tend to notice or pay much attention to them, the way Phelan goes about it is much more in your face and noticeable, I certainly don't see him as a hero or cult figure just a figure of fun maybe someone to pity rather than fear.
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The fact that I dreamt about Phelan last night shows just how much I loathe the character. He got a fitting end - fell into a giant cement mixer at his scam flats "development" and was mashed to pieces. When the cement was laid, all that was left of him was his smug mouth and that was trampled on by all the people he'd conned out of £15,000 .

Hopefully that's how he will meet his end - no villain (fictional or otherwise) can get away with nasty deeds forever.

davejc64 - apologies if you think I have a go at you more than others (not intended), although you do seem to genuinely enjoy your windups whereas some others have just jumped on the bandwagon to be one of the boys - they're easy to ignore. Seems to be mainly women who hate Phelan and the mock hero worship.
It's a joke that got old very fast, however some folk still seem to find it funny so each to their own.
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Old Yesterday, 11:41
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It's a joke that got old very fast, however some folk still seem to find it funny so each to their own.
How generous of you to allow people that freedom.
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How generous of you to allow people that freedom.
Oh, behave.
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I don't find any portrayal of nastiness funny, probably because I had to deal with a lot of it in real life when working.

The funnies scene ever in Corrie for me was Blanche at the AA meeting with Peter.
Corrie has lost its humour - it's starting to mimic EE, which I stopped watching years ago because it was nothing but thugs, doom and gloom. There were happy stories in the past mixed in with the darker ones. Now it's just plotting and threats.

Better villains than Phelan were Lewis (just quietly conning people) and Richard Hillman (conning and killing, but not menacing or threatening). Both intelligent and charming. No-one hero-worshipped them even for fun. Phelan is just a psychopathic caveman by comparison.

So why has Phelan become almost a cult figure for some, while other villains haven't?
Oh Janet, you sound like my soap soulmate. That's exactly how I feel. I mentioned in another thread how maybe I shouldn't be watching soaps anymore because I don't like the way they're going. I too stopped watching EE many years ago for exactly the same reasons as you mention. I have always loved the humour in Corrie but there is so little of it these days. There seems to be more and more misery and more and more couples breaking up. Totally unnecessary. I agree about the nastiness too and simply cannot understand the cult hero worship, albeit tongue in cheek, that Phelan seems to generate. On the whole, it does seem that it's the women who can't stand him.
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Kate (Earn Your) Oates knows not to mess around with the award winning ratings winner. It's just another way for karma to come to those who lie, wish him harm and try to kill him.

Just a small sample of his supreme acts.

He's cast Annaphelatic's crutches aside and given her the power to walk.

He's saved her life.

He's come back from the ''dead'' on a couple of occasions.

The only deity an Atheist believes in.

ALL HAIL!

Whom dare question KING?

It's been a while but, I feel a couple of verses coming on...

KING of kings,
We all love Pat Phelan
Other things
Mean nothing to me

KING of kings
Laughter and money
Will always be
Important to (P)he.

I did catch up with last night's episode and thought, how nice of Vileen to say she'd have to check with KING to see if another Waif and Stray could be taken inn. After all, he got rid of the original one...

Hopefully, Jen Behaving Bradley will seek guidance from KING on how to get her revenge for trying to tell the truth. Her time to own the factory couldn't come soon enough.
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So what is winding people up the fact I am having a bit of fun about a fictional character or the fact it's me that is doing it?

Because I am getting the impression that it's not what I am posting that is winding some people up but the fact it's me,
there are hundreds if not thousands of people posting on the soap section of DS yet it seems to be just me that is being singled out and berated for what I post, may I suggest if that is the case I do believe there is an ignore function on the forum feel free to use it.

PS, no I'm not being paranoid.
Oh get over yourself! Actually I answer the post not the poster, so yes, you are a tad paranoid.

Sniff Well, you reap what you sow and all that..........

Thanks, as I have explained several times now all I am doing is having a bit of fun there is not intention to wind-up anyone as someone else mentioned I do think some people are being over sensitive about the matter, anyway enough about me.

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I don't find any portrayal of nastiness funny, probably because I had to deal with a lot of it in real life when working.

The funnies scene ever in Corrie for me was Blanche at the AA meeting with Peter.
Corrie has lost its humour
- it's starting to mimic EE, which I stopped watching years ago because it was nothing but thugs, doom and gloom. There were happy stories in the past mixed in with the darker ones. Now it's just plotting and threats.

Better villains than Phelan were Lewis (just quietly conning people) and Richard Hillman (conning and killing, but not menacing or threatening). Both intelligent and charming. No-one hero-worshipped them even for fun. Phelan is just a psychopathic caveman by comparison.

So why has Phelan become almost a cult figure for some, while other villains haven't?
Ah - dear Blanche My favourite Blanche scene was in Ken's house where Blanche was somewhat tipsy and letting out all the dark family history.

I agree totally about Richard Hillman & Lewis - charmingly dangerous and ruthless, had no love for them but they were more interesting than plain nasty Phelan.
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Kate (Earn Your) Oates knows not to mess around with the award winning ratings winner. It's just another way for karma to come to those who lie, wish him harm and try to kill him.

Just a small sample of his supreme acts.

He's cast Annaphelatic's crutches aside and given her the power to walk.

He's saved her life.

He's come back from the ''dead'' on a couple of occasions.

The only deity an Atheist believes in.

ALL HAIL!

Whom dare question KING?

It's been a while but, I feel a couple of verses coming on...

KING of kings,
We all love Pat Phelan
Other things
Mean nothing to me

KING of kings
Laughter and money
Will always be
Important to (P)he.

I did catch up with last night's episode and thought, how nice of Vileen to say she'd have to check with KING to see if another Waif and Stray could be taken inn. After all, he got rid of the original one...

Hopefully, Jen Behaving Bradley will seek guidance from KING on how to get her revenge for trying to tell the truth. Her time to own the factory couldn't come soon enough.
This post is everything
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Old Yesterday, 19:57
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Oh get over yourself! Actually I answer the post not the poster, so yes, you are a tad paranoid.

Sniff Well, you reap what you sow and all that..........

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Ah - dear Blanche My favourite Blanche scene was in Ken's house where Blanche was somewhat tipsy and letting out all the dark family history.

I agree totally about Richard Hillman & Lewis - charmingly dangerous and ruthless, had no love for them but they were more interesting than plain nasty Phelan.
Yes, Lewis and Richard Hillman were very well written complex characters. A lot of depth to them and a clear path mapped out fr them by the writers..

The writing of Phelan is very poor. No depth to him - just a nasty psychopath. In his first stint on the show, there was a purpose to him, but they brought him back and don't seem to know what to do with him. All the writers can come up with for him this time is to find someone to con and threaten. Move on to the next one. Repeat.

The only deviation was to have Vinny con him. Now we're back to con and threaten. Are they going to do this to every resident in the street. If so even his fans will get bored.
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When is he first arrived he was just an ordinary bloke who only cared about money

Now he has been turned into some kind of Pantomime villain who everyone is scared who can control people to do what he wants if he has enough dirt on them. And is unrecognisable to the bloke who first arrived on the street
he's always been a crap, hateful, disgusting, vile character who makes my skin crawl

Callum Logan was way better imo
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I'd like to have a try hitting Phelen with a brick!
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he's always been a crap, hateful, disgusting, vile character who makes my skin crawl

Callum Logan was way better imo
Yes he was, a really nasty piece of work who got his come uppance. I think most of us like to see the villains get their just desserts in the end, I just wonder how much longer we have to put up with the Phelan character until he gets his.

I have been thinking about the evil characters Corrie has spawned over the years - I really hated Charlie ? who I hated as much then as I do Phelan now. But I think the most evil was played by Lee Boardman. I'm desperately searching my memory for the character who finally cornered him & finished him off - was it Jason?
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My posts are usually fun comments. It's not done to get anybody wound up. Most posters seem to realize that. But sometimes if someone takes it wrong and gets nasty I'm more than willing to return it. If I think a post is nonsense I'll express that opinion and argue why I think so. But one thing I won't do is post on a subject or say anything to someone that is obviously distressed by it. Some are fragile and their wishes should be respected. Mental and physical wellbeing comes before any posts, funny or serious or any other kind .


Now you're being patronising James.
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Now you're being patronising James.
You can roll your eyes all you like and make your snide remarks but I can tell you something for nothing. When it comes to mental or physical wellbeing of anyone I come in contact with I'm more serious than a heart attack. You can take that to the bank. I hope if you ever have the misfortune to suffer any of the above there is someone like me in your circle of friends or family. That was a little low down to be truthful.
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Oh get over yourself! Actually I answer the post not the poster, so yes, you are a tad paranoid.

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Yes you are right I really do need to get over myself otherwise I might start to go around accusing people of winding people up over a fictional character.
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