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Old 03-01-2017, 07:16
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In the reporting of the M62 shooting on BBC1 and Radio Four (which just happened to be the stations I watched/listened to this morning rather than picking them out in particular), it's noticeable that, although in both cases it was the top headline, the reports were just for a minute or so and then moved on. Radio Four's feature item after the news was on house building. Now I'might not arguing for news items going on and on for their own sake. That happens too often, but can you imagine what the reporting would have been if it had happened in London? It'seems unlikely that it would have been a brief report.

On a slightly different note. It'seems being reported that the shooting happened at 1800 last last night but there was no mention of it on the news yesterday. How come it's only being reported now?
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:18
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There is almost no information available. That will limit how long the report will go on for. How London bias comes into this I have no idea.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:31
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There is almost no information available. That will limit how long the report will go on for. How London bias comes into this I have no idea.
The point is that, if it was London, for better or worse, they would have several reporters st the scene going into endless detail, whether or not there was anything substantial to talk about.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:38
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There is almost no information available. That will limit how long the report will go on for. How London bias comes into this I have no idea.
Correct - it seems that the police have given no other information, so we only know what has happened.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:41
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The point is that, if it was London, for better or worse, they would have several reporters st the scene going into endless detail, whether or not there was anything substantial to talk about.
Maybe they might have had ONE reporter there (if access was available), or maybe not. That is purely speculative.

But this has to be a first for DS - a news report based on facts rather than speculation, and still that is somehow wrong.

Even Sky News is only carrying the basic details (as that would seem to be all that they know too:

http://news.sky.com/story/man-killed...orway-10716419
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:13
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In the reporting of the M62 shooting on BBC1 and Radio Four (which just happened to be the stations I watched/listened to this morning rather than picking them out in particular), it's noticeable that, although in both cases it was the top headline, the reports were just for a minute or so and then moved on. Radio Four's feature item after the news was on house building. Now I'might not arguing for news items going on and on for their own sake. That happens too often, but can you imagine what the reporting would have been if it had happened in London? It'seems unlikely that it would have been a brief report.

On a slightly different note. It'seems being reported that the shooting happened at 1800 last last night but there was no mention of it on the news yesterday. How come it's only being reported now?
Here's a thought. What if the police only released limited details due to it being an ongoing investigation and therefore currently, the news reported is the only what is allowed? It does happen.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:25
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The point is that, if it was London, for better or worse, they would have several reporters st the scene going into endless detail, whether or not there was anything substantial to talk about.
If it had happened in a busy urban area then I am sure there would have been more reporters collecting eye-witness accounts which would probably contradict each other or be very biased against the police in some areas. If it happened on a quiet part of the M25 then I doubt whether it would be any different. It is much easier to isolate as road closed, no pedestrian access and a Temporary Air Exclusion Zone so no helicopters or drones allowed.

Local papers don't seem to have any more.

Huddersfield Daily Examiner
YEP

What bias are they showing?
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:44
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It could well be that an embargo has been placed on reporting for the present.

In the meantime, I note that the BBC web site report now contains an eye witness report which says "At about 6.15am to 6.20am policemen were running up the slope to an ambulance and beckoning them to come quickly.", while the top of the page states that the incident happened around 6pm last night. It just shows how unreliable eye witness reports, or the reporting of those reports, can be.

Edit at 0908: I see that the BBC have now removed the "am".
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:34
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And on the 7am Breakfast news there was a reporter live on the scene (or, more correctly, as close to the scene as the police cordon and access would allow).
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:40
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Not everything that happens in London is reported by the BBC. I have been on many marches and protests in London and yet none were reported. nor were the ones all over the country. The only place that was reporting them was Russia today .
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:04
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LOL, I thought this thread was going to be about a shooting that happened in/ around London (apart from a few, I've generally no idea which M-way is where ) that was reported and the OP was going to compare it to similar shootings around the country that weren't reported.

The OP's claiming bias simply because he assumes that had it happened it London, it would naturally have received more coverage than it did.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:18
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Not everything that happens in London is reported by the BBC. I have been on many marches and protests in London and yet none were reported. nor were the ones all over the country. The only place that was reporting them was Russia today .
Good.

Who wants to read that a group from Rent-a-Mob have caused traffic chaos marching with the professionally produced banners that they have been supplied with. It probably would be more newsworthy in London if there had been no one marching on that day.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:05
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Good.

Who wants to read that a group from Rent-a-Mob have caused traffic chaos marching with the professionally produced banners that they have been supplied with. It probably would be more newsworthy in London if there had been no one marching on that day.
Other people who are as fed up with what is going on as those marching , so they know they are not alone in their struggle.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:53
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Other people who are as fed up with what is going on as those marching , so they know they are not alone in their struggle.
Yet they hide behind those silly masks so who knows who's marching.

Perhaps these marches are really false flag operations organised by the Russians or Chinese to try and cause riots and looting. Maybe the stupid masks hide the fact it's the same crisis actors from a 'terrorist' attack a few weeks earlier.

This conspiracy crap really is easy to make up.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:03
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Yet they hide behind those silly masks so who knows who's marching.

Perhaps these marches are really false flag operations organised by the Russians or Chinese to try and cause riots and looting. Maybe the stupid masks hide the fact it's the same crisis actors from a 'terrorist' attack a few weeks earlier.

This conspiracy crap really is easy to make up.
Please don't take your crap from thread to thread. Very childish.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:04
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Headline news on the BBC 1 o'clock now with a live reporter there.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:06
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:37
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You're accusing a news programme made in Salford of London bias?
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:21
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I do wonder if this incident had occurred on the M25 or the southern end of the M1 if the coverage this morning would have been considerably greater and more blanket, but heck it's only Huddersfield who cares what's in Huddersfield or should I say who that matters, cares what's in Huddersfield.

The BBC would have dragged the head of the Met on screen for having the motorway closed for more than 12 hours by now. Heck we get greater coverage of any shooting in America than this event.

Mind you do have to question the whole editorial policy when the same stupid report on the increase in sales of vinyl records is on at the same time every hour. Is that all they've got to show?
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:29
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I do wonder if this incident had occurred on the M25 or the southern end of the M1 if the coverage this morning would have been considerably greater and more blanket, but heck it's only Huddersfield who cares what's in Huddersfield or should I say who that matters, cares what's in Huddersfield.
Plus I'm pretty sure when the police spokesperson said "It's nothing to do with terrorism." we could hear the sigh of disappointment from the collected media all the way over this side of the Pennines.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:37
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I agree with the OP. There very little said about it in comparison to other shootings we've heard about.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:40
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I agree with the OP. There very little said about it in comparison to other shootings we've heard about.
Because vey little is known and as of yet we do not have community leaders and people shouting and demanding answers and screaming murder and maybe the media is learning a lesson from its past mistakes with too much coverage of no news when they have maybe not deliberately made matters worse as they have given blanket coverage to something without any facts
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:48
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In the reporting of the M62 shooting on BBC1 and Radio Four (which just happened to be the stations I watched/listened to this morning rather than picking them out in particular), it's noticeable that, although in both cases it was the top headline, the reports were just for a minute or so and then moved on. Radio Four's feature item after the news was on house building. Now I'might not arguing for news items going on and on for their own sake. That happens too often, but can you imagine what the reporting would have been if it had happened in London? It'seems unlikely that it would have been a brief report.

On a slightly different note. It'seems being reported that the shooting happened at 1800 last last night but there was no mention of it on the news yesterday. How come it's only being reported now?
I firstly refer to other posters responses that often limited information is given out and they can't speculate or asked to embargo.

In London there are many issues like this occurring, typically they do not get on the national news, often a smaller piece on BBC London News, - London gets full Regional news for Londoners. And quite often only in the Evening standard or Metro and not TV News.

So if it happened in London, often not on TV News.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:49
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In the reporting of the M62 shooting on BBC1 and Radio Four (which just happened to be the stations I watched/listened to this morning rather than picking them out in particular), it's noticeable that, although in both cases it was the top headline, the reports were just for a minute or so and then moved on. Radio Four's feature item after the news was on house building. Now I'might not arguing for news items going on and on for their own sake. That happens too often, but can you imagine what the reporting would have been if it had happened in London? It'seems unlikely that it would have been a brief report.

On a slightly different note. It'seems being reported that the shooting happened at 1800 last last night but there was no mention of it on the news yesterday. How come it's only being reported now?
First mention at 7am but no information as such , they cannot report more than they know and lessons learned from the past possibly about over reporting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-en...leeds-38468327

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Posted at
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Good morning. Welcome to our live coverage of news, sport, travel and weather updates from across West Yorkshire.

Julia Bryson

Journalist, BBC Local Live


I'll be with you until 18:00.

We've had a big breaking news story overnight after a man was shot dead by police near Huddersfield.

Slip roads east and westbound at junction 24 of the M62 remain closed as a result of the incident. More travel news shortly
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:49
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I do wonder if this incident had occurred on the M25 or the southern end of the M1 if the coverage this morning would have been considerably greater and more blanket,

If it had happened on the M25, half of south-east England would have ground to a halt, which would have been newsworthy in itself.
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