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Old 03-01-2017, 18:01
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If it had happened on the M25, half of south-east England would have ground to a halt, which would have been newsworthy in itself.
Actually...The M25 grinds to a halt, regularly....every day, if hourly...not reported.

Kent into Essex through Dartford often grinds to a permanent halt Day, night, weekends....
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Old 03-01-2017, 18:22
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Big segment of this news story on BBC 6 o clock News and a high up story.
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Old 03-01-2017, 18:30
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Big segment of this news story on BBC 6 o clock News and a high up story.
Some links from local news , seems family and friends are being restrained , sensible and dignified compared to cases in the past

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...earch-12400509

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...olice-12396431

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...birkby-4998267
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Old 03-01-2017, 18:38
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Some links from local news , seems family and friends are being restrained , sensible and dignified compared to cases in the past

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...earch-12400509

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...olice-12396431

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...birkby-4998267
Thanks...
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:40
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Some links from local news , seems family and friends are being restrained , sensible and dignified compared to cases in the past

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...earch-12400509

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...olice-12396431

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...birkby-4998267
Have they commented on the firearm found in the car?
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Old 03-01-2017, 21:12
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If it had happened on the M25, half of south-east England would have ground to a halt, which would have been newsworthy in itself.
Hence my comment about that the BBC would have dragged the commissioner of the Met in to the studio asking why the motorway was still shut 18 hours after the incident.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:22
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Have they commented on the firearm found in the car?
Not much said they will wait to get results from tests before saying much more, I think with past cases both police, IPCC and the media (well some of it) may have learned some valuable lessons in doing things right, not releasing info to placate the press and public until you have info rather than speculation and the media hopefully will report facts and not blanket coverage crap which can lead to unrest.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...d-gun-12401135


A non-police issue firearm was found in the car in which Yaqub was travelling



The Independent Police Complaints Commission has revealed that a gun was found in Mohammed Yassar Yaqub's car on Monday night


http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/update-f...g-huddersfield


Jan 3, 2017
The Independent Police Complaints Commission’s (IPCC) investigation into a fatal police shooting in Huddersfield is continuing today (Tuesday).

After being notified by West Yorkshire Police, IPCC investigators went to the scene yesterday evening and attended police post incident procedures, and have been overseeing forensic examinations.

Yassar Yaqub, aged 28 from Crosland Moor, was shot by a West Yorkshire Police firearms officer during a planned police operation at Junction 24 of the M62 motorway shortly after 6pm on Monday 2 January. He died at the scene.

What appears to be a non-police issue firearm was discovered in the vehicle in which Mr Yaqub was travelling, and is being further examined.

Mr Yaqub’s family has been informed and will be kept updated by an IPCC family liaison manager. A post mortem is due to take place tomorrow (4 January). HM Coroner has been informed.

IPCC investigators are continuing to seek any relevant CCTV footage. Initial accounts from police officers involved have been obtained.

IPCC Commissioner Derrick Campbell: “My thoughts are with Mr Yaqub’s family and all those affected at this difficult time. Though in its early stages, this investigation is making good progress but will be complex. We will be working hard to establish exactly what happened and would ask for patience while our investigation continues.”

We understand Mr Yaqub’s family has requested their privacy is respected at this time



I would say the family wanting privacy is also making this a much calmer affair.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:38
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If it had happened on the M25, half of south-east England would have ground to a halt, which would have been newsworthy in itself.
You do know how busy the M62 is, do you?
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:39
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Rather bizarrely, some people have been protesting on a road in Bradford tonight despite the incident taking place just off the M62 at Huddersfield.....can't work that one out myself. Not sure what they hope to achieve though, just makes them look like numpties who are blocking roads.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:43
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Not much said they will wait to get results from tests before saying much more, I think with past cases both police, IPCC and the media (well some of it) may have learned some valuable lessons in doing things right, not releasing info to placate the press and public until you have info rather than speculation and the media hopefully will report facts and not blanket coverage crap which can lead to unrest.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-...d-gun-12401135


A non-police issue firearm was found in the car in which Yaqub was travelling



The Independent Police Complaints Commission has revealed that a gun was found in Mohammed Yassar Yaqub's car on Monday night


http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/update-f...g-huddersfield



IPCC Commissioner Derrick Campbell: “My thoughts are with Mr Yaqub’s family and all those affected at this difficult time. Though in its early stages, this investigation is making good progress but will be complex. We will be working hard to establish exactly what happened and would ask for patience while our investigation continues.”

We understand Mr Yaqub’s family has requested their privacy is respected at this time

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Which speaks volumes about the IPCC. Why should their thoughts be with the family? They are meant to be independent, not to be expressing sympathy for the family of an alleged criminal.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:46
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Rather bizarrely, some people have been protesting on a road in Bradford tonight despite the incident taking place just off the M62 at Huddersfield.....can't work that one out myself. Not sure what they hope to achieve though, just makes them look like numpties who are blocking roads.
A not very good video of it here apparently with banner saying "police stop killing" according to taker of said video

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...hire-1-8315988


Looks to be about 6 people
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:48
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It could well be that an embargo has been placed on reporting for the present.

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An embargo on reporting? This isn't a police state. Whatever happened to journalistic curiosity and determination to get to the truth of a story?
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:50
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Incident occurred. Police black out. Non Terrorist event! Someone shot by Police. They have the answers, OP does not! London Bias? In West Yorkshire? I despair of DS posters at times!
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Old 03-01-2017, 23:05
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An embargo on reporting? This isn't a police state. Whatever happened to journalistic curiosity and determination to get to the truth of a story?
Maybe they have learned from past mistakes, there is no point having constant rolling news about something to which there are no answers or concrete info yet and reporting eye witness testimony as fact at the time just leads to problems , far better the police , forensics and IPCC do there job and then report to the family and press . Speculation in the mean time on rolling news just causes more problems than it solves and could cause legal issues in any subsequent investigation or trial .
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:22
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Hence my comment about that the BBC would have dragged the commissioner of the Met in to the studio asking why the motorway was still shut 18 hours after the incident.
There have been previous cases where the M25 has been closed as long and I don't remember the Commissioner ever being dragged into the studio, can you remind when it has happened?
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:25
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Which speaks volumes about the IPCC. Why should their thoughts be with the family? They are meant to be independent, not to be expressing sympathy for the family of an alleged criminal.
If they wanted to say that then they should have said something similar about the families of the police involved (though I suspect that an ex-police friend who was a firearms user would not lose much sleep over a drug dealer being shot).
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:27
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An embargo on reporting? This isn't a police state. Whatever happened to journalistic curiosity and determination to get to the truth of a story?
The only time that there is a complete blackout is when lives are at risk, usually a kidnapping. I think it is usually done with agreement from the media rather than any sort legal embargo.
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