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Am I the only one in thinking that this was part of the plan all along with the aim of deceiving the EU side?
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Which if you're right means we had in effect already lost our ability as a people to make the sovereign decision to leave the EU. Our worst fears as Brexiters would have in some ironic sense have been confirmed. We will I guess all have to like or lump our status as a semi-autonomous region of the EU.
Holding a popular referendum on the subject, having no plans in place and you as the Government that are holding the referendum being completely opposed to the idea of leaving the EU, is the most chaotic and shambolic way of going about things and can only end badly. |
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It is certainly possible for a country to leave but it's something that would two or three years planning. The way I could see it work is a Eurosceptic party campaigning in a general election on a 'leave the EU' ticket, getting elected and then spending a couple of years in government putting preparations in place before finally triggering Article 50.
Holding a popular referendum on the subject, having no plans in place and you as the Government that are holding the referendum being completely opposed to the idea of leaving the EU, is the most chaotic and shambolic way of going about things and can only end badly. |
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Why do you even care what we in the UK are doing? You spend an inordinate amount of time posting on this subject.
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Brexit will effect our country more than any other country in the EU, so of course we care about it.
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I agree. All the anti Brexit Irish posters are right to air their views on here.
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Farage is already fuming over the appointment I see haha. Looks like we've gone with the right choice if it makes Farage unhappy.
Farage on twitter: 'Good to see that the government have replaced a knighted career diplomat with.... a knighted career diplomat.' Perhaps that was why the previous appointee either felt he couldn't continue or needed to be pushed. |
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Brexit will effect our country more than any other country in the EU, so of course we care about it.
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Happy to see the remainer Ivor go
How could he push something through he clearly didn't believe in or have any faith in We need positivity not gloom and doom BBC and sky news reporting it like someone died ...ridiculous |
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BBC and sky news reporting it like someone died ...ridiculous
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Deceiving the EU about what?
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Happy to see the remainer Ivor go
How could he push something through he clearly didn't believe in or have any faith in We need positivity not gloom and doom BBC and sky news reporting it like someone died ...ridiculous |
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Happy to see the remainer Ivor go
How could he push something through he clearly didn't believe in or have any faith in We need positivity not gloom and doom BBC and sky news reporting it like someone died ...ridiculous |
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I agree. All the anti Brexit Irish posters are right to air their views on here. Ireland2day, Miasima Goria, Eurostar and yourself are excellent additions to this forum. Just because the UK is leaving the EU, doesn't mean we are turning our back on Ireland and her posters.
It might not happen with Brexit, but it certainly happen when the UK deviates from EU rules and regulations, making it harder to sell goods and service there. |
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Happy to see the remainer Ivor go
How could he push something through he clearly didn't believe in or have any faith in In the US, thousands of people lose their jobs and are replaced when a new administration comes to power. We don't do that here |
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Well the BBC and Sky are clearly on the Remain side just as the Express and Daily Mail are clearly on the Leave side, don't see the problem to be honest.
And in the BBC's case they are the state public broadcaster, they should really be impartial. |
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Why do you even care what we in the UK are doing? You spend an inordinate amount of time posting on this subject.
I have a lot of relatives too in the UK who will be directly affected of course. |
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I should point out I live in the UK and have done so for a long time - my loyalties a very split on Brexit. One thing I will say though, is that I do think the UK is actually turning its back on Europe and the EU, regardless of what Brexit supporters like to think.
It might not happen with Brexit, but it certainly happen when the UK deviates from EU rules and regulations, making it harder to sell goods and service there. |
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My own thoughts are that it's the reverse. The EU is turning it's back on the UK.
How do you see the EU turning their backs on us exactly? Is your head on back to front or something? |
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My own thoughts are that it's the reverse. The EU is turning it's back on the UK.
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If they're turning their backs, it's because they're getting sick of the petulant attitude from the UK government, some sections of the UK media, and gobshites like Farage.
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Maybe they are turning their backs because the EU is in decline as a concept and have their own domestic fires to put out.
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27 other countries don't seem to think so.
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It is certainly possible for a country to leave but it's something that would two or three years planning. The way I could see it work is a Eurosceptic party campaigning in a general election on a 'leave the EU' ticket, getting elected and then spending a couple of years in government putting preparations in place before finally triggering Article 50.
Holding a popular referendum on the subject, having no plans in place and you as the Government that are holding the referendum being completely opposed to the idea of leaving the EU, is the most chaotic and shambolic way of going about things and can only end badly. |
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If you read up on what they think, many many leaders of the other 27 nations range from dissatisfied and pathetic to annoyed and angry at the state of the EU. The EU is not a happy bunny and many inside the EU are warning of its destruction - including the EU vice president himself.
Unlike here, where deviation from the new norm results in having to resign, or suffer death threats and abuse. Once the UK has left the EU, I suspect it will develop a core of closely knit, protectionist economies BIB - can you not bring yourself to say his name - are you afraid he will appear in you office, like Candyman?
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