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Yet the Greeks show no appetite whatsoever to leave the EU or EZ.
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Not really - sometimes it's rather pointless.
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A sad loss for the Civil Service.
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I'm sure the big consultancy firms will be lining up to offer him a job. Someone with his connections in Westminster and Brussels is very valuable.
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I'm sure the big consultancy firms will be lining up to offer him a job. Someone with his connections in Westminster and Brussels is very valuable.
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From one trough to another.
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What exactly are you implying here?
It's just unbelievable reading some of the stuff on here TBH. A guy who's worked hard and made a success in his career is derided and sneered at because he's decided to quit his job as he is unhappy with the direction it's gong. Don't people do that all the time? The spite and jealousy aimed at people who've made a success of their lives and who have principles (on this thread and others) is beyond belief. ![]() Sad - jealous, people. |
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He'll be back working as a consultant earning twice as much. That's how it works.
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From one trough to another.
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What exactly are you implying here?
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Why bother asking? Do you think you'll get a sensible answer?
It's just unbelievable reading some of the stuff on here TBH. A guy who's worked hard and made a success in his career is derided and sneered at because he's decided to quit his job as he is unhappy with the direction it's gong. Don't people do that all the time? The spite and jealousy aimed at people who've made a success of their lives and who have principles (on this thread and others) is beyond belief. ![]() Sad - jealous, people. |
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Why bother asking? Do you think you'll get a sensible answer?
It's just unbelievable reading some of the stuff on here TBH. A guy who's worked hard and made a success in his career is derided and sneered at because he's decided to quit his job as he is unhappy with the direction it's gong. Don't people do that all the time? The spite and jealousy aimed at people who've made a success of their lives and who have principles (on this thread and others) is beyond belief. ![]() Sad - jealous, people. For those who wanted Brexit he did a great job - but perhaps for the next stage of negotiating Brexit we need someone who can actually negotiate a decent deal. |
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He has spent his entire career in the civil service and negotiated the appalling deal Cameron got last year which played a large part in delivering the Brexit vote - as it showed how impotent we were in the EU even with the threat of our referendum.
For those who wanted Brexit he did a great job - but perhaps for the next stage of negotiating Brexit we need someone who can actually negotiate a decent deal. And Merkel takes no prisoners. And remember the EU did not kick or vote ye out, you did that yourselves. Ye need the deal because of the position you are now in, the EU does not have to deliver a deal, May does, and she has to deliver a deal to her people. It's the EU in the driving seat here AGAIN, just like it was with Cameron's administration. |
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But Britain has not many cards to play.
And Merkel takes no prisoners. And remember the EU did not kick or vote ye out, you did that yourselves. Ye need the deal because of the position you are now in, the EU does not have to deliver a deal, May does, and she has to deliver a deal to her people. It's the EU in the driving seat here. |
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It's the EU in the driving seat here AGAIN, just like it was with Cameron's administration.
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But Britain has not many cards to play.
And Merkel takes no prisoners. And remember the EU did not kick or vote ye out, you did that yourselves. Ye need the deal because of the position you are now in, the EU does not have to deliver a deal, May does, and she has to deliver a deal to her people. It's the EU in the driving seat here AGAIN, just like it was with Cameron's administration. In any case the Merkel / EU looks pretty 'sick man of Europe' right now and will have plenty of its own troubles to deal with, not just our escape, in the coming years, from national elections to Trump's presidency. |
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Your reference to Merkel is interesting. It's quite obvious that she alone is the EU these days.
And some British commentators and politicians argue that Britain is such a bigger and more important country to the one's named above but what escapes the minds of the likes of the Farages, Goves and Smiths is that the upcoming negotiations are not talks to keep Britain in the EU, the final deal if there is to be one is not going to be put to a public vote in Britain so any ideas that Britain holds strong cards is just La La land and fantasy talk. |
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If he resigned as ambassador, how could he still be a civil servant and then resign AGAIN from the civil service?
You don't resign from a post but stay employed by the company. What were we paying for? Was he still drawing a civil service salary after he resigned as ambassador. |
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When it came to Ireland, Spain, Greece and Portugal by and large she did call the shots just like she dismissed the notion of eurozone wide government bonds.
And some British commentators and politicians argue that Britain is such a bigger and more important country to the one's named above but what escapes the minds of the likes of the Farages, Goves and Smiths is that the upcoming negotiations are not talks to keep Britain in the EU, the final dealmif there is to be one is not going to be put to a public vote in Britain so any ideas that Btitain holds strong cards is just La La land and fantasy talk. |
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So the EU really were in charge all along? Isn't that a somewhat brexiter point of view?
The EU is a club, it has rules, you don't like them, leave. But when you leave, you must also leave any delusions behind too. The notion Britain will get a good deal is preposterous. |
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If he resigned as ambassador, how could he still be a civil servant and then resign AGAIN from the civil service?
You don't resign from a post but stay employed by the company. What were we paying for? Was he still drawing a civil service salary after he resigned as ambassador. He's going to get 3 months salary in lieu of working his notice period https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-eu-envoy-role |
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Over eight million people voted to leave the Common Market in 1975, how do you know they weren't the wartime generation?
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