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Old 04-01-2017, 13:15
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Which episode was this?
Wasn't it the ladies night that they had in the Vic a few weeks back (it was to cheer Jane up as she hadn't been out in ages)? If I recall Kathy was holding the Kathy's cafe sign and was very drunk
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Old 04-01-2017, 13:47
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Sorry if it came across that I was suggesting that of your parents, that was a general comment, particularly of deprived, under educated parts of the country where I grew up. I don't feel I missed out, but my life has been dominated by it. I will PM you when I get my laptop back kitkat, this tablet is no use for lengthy conversation. I apologise for any offence I may have caused that was unrelated to what you had posted.
Oh no offence taken, I didn't think you were saying all parents, old or young were like that.

Just thought I'd comment pn those that have children later simply because they've had trouble conceiving.

Re the OP, yes it is nice to see and it's interesting how Denise is getting the same sort ofcomments about being too old, irresponsibke, she's already had her family, that Pauline was, 30 years ago whereas most wouldn't about a 40 year old now.
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Old 04-01-2017, 14:56
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Olivia Richards in Sunset Beach when she had Trey Deschanel?
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Old 04-01-2017, 15:09
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It seems women having babies when they're over 45 is on the increase whilst the rate for under 18s has halved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37440538

Soaps need to consider this when they keep making young teens pregnant and ignoring those who are choosing to get pregnant much later in life.
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Old 04-01-2017, 16:01
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My Mum was 30 when I was born in 75 but I was her last child - she had her first at 24. My parents were both born to mothers who were about 40 at the time. I think my maternal grandmother would have been quite unusual as for her it was a first ( and only) child - Dad was the youngest of five.. An old school mate of mine in her late thirties has just become a first time mum but I think that's s still quite unusual around here. Still as a product of ' older' grandparents I am one of the few 41 year olds with a granddad who fought in World War One and was born in the Victorian era!
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:13
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I was born in 1965 and my mum was nearly 39. My Dad was 40. they had been trying for 13 years of marriage. Funnily enough I was born in Salford where Corrie is set. So find it ironic that they never have had a successful older mum.
I had forgotten about Erica being another older Mum who lost a baby. I am trying to think apart from Michelle who they could have in Corrie? Maybe Mary?? Is she of the right age? Or maybe Tracy in 2018 when she turns 40. I guess it just resonates with me.
Indeed they dont need to concentrate on the health issues of a late pregnancy (they always do that) but more the social impact.. being older at the school gate, etc. I know my Mum felt that quite acutely.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:57
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The whole school gate pressure is interesting. I have a young friend who had her kids at about twenty and she' s mentioned feeling very much the youngest at the school gate, as many of them were mid twenties to early thirties when the kids were born Thinking about it I guess a lot of the other parents I knew growing up were slightly younger than mine as often the kids I knew were the oldest children in the family. That said I knew a few girls who were born to middle aged parents and some of them lost parents when they were still at school.

I think it's interesting that two of ED' s older mothers had babies born with health problems/ disabilities but the younger Mums never do. Yes, there is a higher chance but it happens to lots of young Mums too!
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Old Yesterday, 00:06
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Absolutely. Its like they have to compartmentalise..young = fine old = something wrong.
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Old Yesterday, 00:55
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Absolutely. Its like they have to compartmentalise..young = fine old = something wrong.
Yes, which is very ittitating and not reflective of current stats as somebody stated higher up.

Whilst it is just personal experience, not a full study group, but whist a few of my friends had babies on their mid twenties, most have had their first child in their late thirties, and second or more over 40. And maybe they've just been lucky, but none of them have had problemss with the pregnancies, and the babies have all been healthy.
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Old Yesterday, 01:00
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Just to mention though, Honey was young when she had Janet.

Holby City are fairly good at showing older mothers without making a big deal of it. Mo had her baby last night and must be knocking 40. It wasn't even mentioned at any stage.

Jac, Chrissie and Connie have also all had healthy babies when nearly 40 without their age being a plot factor. Well, Jacs baby did have problems but that was CDH, which has no connection to the age of the mother.
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Old Yesterday, 01:03
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I was born in 1965 and my mum was nearly 39. My Dad was 40. they had been trying for 13 years of marriage. Funnily enough I was born in Salford where Corrie is set. So find it ironic that they never have had a successful older mum.
I had forgotten about Erica being another older Mum who lost a baby. I am trying to think apart from Michelle who they could have in Corrie? Maybe Mary?? Is she of the right age? Or maybe Tracy in 2018 when she turns 40. I guess it just resonates with me.
Indeed they dont need to concentrate on the health issues of a late pregnancy (they always do that) but more the social impact.. being older at the school gate, etc. I know my Mum felt that quite acutely.
Jenny Bradley would-be possible for either an older pregnancy or peri menopausal storyline as she is 45, due to turn 46 in March. Sticks in my mind as she is the closest soap character in age to me, only a couple of weeks apart!
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Old Yesterday, 01:10
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Jenny Bradley would-be possible for either an older pregnancy or peri menopausal storyline as she is 45, due to turn 46 in March. Sticks in my mind as she is the closest soap character in age to me, only a couple of weeks apart!
I think this could be quite good actually! Especially with Johnny being 60! That adds an even older parent into the mix, it could also revisit the storyline of losing her baby son (which is why she became obsessed with Jack Webster) and give her some needed emotional development.
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Old Yesterday, 15:30
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I think this could be quite good actually! Especially with Johnny being 60! That adds an even older parent into the mix, it could also revisit the storyline of losing her baby son (which is why she became obsessed with Jack Webster) and give her some needed emotional development.
Great idea. Forgot about Jenny. And Sally Ann Matthews is such a cracking actress it could be funny too. Plus Rita could be a quasi grandma
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Old Yesterday, 15:58
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The whole school gate pressure is interesting. I have a young friend who had her kids at about twenty and she' s mentioned feeling very much the youngest at the school gate, as many of them were mid twenties to early thirties when the kids were born Thinking about it I guess a lot of the other parents I knew growing up were slightly younger than mine as often the kids I knew were the oldest children in the family. That said I knew a few girls who were born to middle aged parents and some of them lost parents when they were still at school.

I think it's interesting that two of ED' s older mothers had babies born with health problems/ disabilities but the younger Mums never do. Yes, there is a higher chance but it happens to lots of young Mums too!
My partner says the same. She was only 21 when she had her eldest daughter and felt alienated at the school gates as all the other mums were much older than her. My mother says the opposite though she was an older mother in her 40s when she had my sister. She said she always felt much older than all the other mums at the school. In fact she knew a couple of the other mums as she had went to school with their mothers.
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Old Yesterday, 17:57
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Hollyoaks has had a couple of "older" pregnancies recently: Myra is in her late 40s and pregnant (having had her first child when 13-14), 40-something Simone was pregnant last year but lost the baby - due to "bunny boiler" Joanne causing a miscarriage, nothing to do with her age. They also had a storyline a couple of years ago where 28-year-old Maxine had a baby with Down's, just to show that anyone's child can have it and it doesn't just happen to "older" mums. Think the staff said in interviews that the mother of the girl playing Maxine's daughter had her at a similar age

I'm 30 at the end of this year and paranoid about getting too old to have children - almost everyone I know married by their mid-20s and has children already (albeit in my culture there is a lot of pressure to be married by this age.) A friend's parents started putting huge pressure on him to marry when his older sister, then 27, broke up with her boyfriend; they figured that even if she met someone tomorrow, it could be a year or more before they married, so unless she had children right away she likely wouldn't start before her 30s and then it would be too late. I know this isn't true and a lot of people do have babies after that age but it still makes me worry ...
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Old Yesterday, 18:09
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There is also hardly any menopause stories in soaps either. The last one I remember is Nicola in Emmerdale.
That was an interesting one as she had a miscarriage and was then diagnosed with early onset menopause. Nicola Wheeler was pregnant in real life at the time and she was asked if she was alright with the storyline and said she was.
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Old Yesterday, 20:46
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Yes, which is very ittitating and not reflective of current stats as somebody stated higher up.

Whilst it is just personal experience, not a full study group, but whist a few of my friends had babies on their mid twenties, most have had their first child in their late thirties, and second or more over 40. And maybe they've just been lucky, but none of them have had problemss with the pregnancies, and the babies have all been healthy.
My personal experience is similar. I was 37 when I had my daughter and all of my friends had their children between 33 and 42. Not a health problem or IVF between us. My mum was 43 when my brother was born and she's a midwife so was more aware than most of the possible issues but she didn't have any problems at all.
At my daughters school younger mums stand out a mile in that there are so few of them
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Old Today, 00:08
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I think there is another issue too, and that is how many children the character already has. If it's s a first child there are greater risks for the older Mum but that can also be the case if she' s had many pregnancies, or problems with previous ones.

I still think it's s much more common to have kids in the twenties/ early thirties, or even teens, than to wait until fortyish. It does become more difficult to conceive, realistically.
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