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Hate speech effect: Teen charged with arson at Morden mosque
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A 16-year-old boy has been charged with causing almost £6.1million damage to western Europe’s biggest mosque complex. https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/1...morden-mosque/
He allegedly started a fire in administration buildings attached to Baitul Futuh Mosque in Morden, on September 26 2015. The blaze tore through function halls, offices, and apartments buildings, causing extensive damage, but the mosque itself was left unscathed. The teenager, from Walton-on-Thames, is set to appear at a South London youth court later this month accused of arson and arson with intent to endanger life. |
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Where does it say he was brainwashed?
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As of yet we don't know why he did it, we certainly don't know he was brainwashed by anyone, some people are taught bad things by bad parents some can have great parents but go off the rails and some can just become nasty little thugs all on their own.
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This is the Ahmadiyya mosque isn't it ?
The perpetrator could easily be a Sunni Muslim, an islamaphobic native or neither (as he hasn't been charged with a hate crime, only arson). Facts are too thin on the ground to make a judgement of any kind, it's probably best to wait for the court case. |
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Hate Speech, still one of the most Orwellian 'crimes' ever to be thought up by the Left and digested wholeheartedly by the brainwashed idiots.
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This is the Ahmadiyya mosque isn't it ?
The perpetrator could easily be a Sunni Muslim, an islamaphobic native or neither (as he hasn't been charged with a hate crime, only arson). Facts are too thin on the ground to make a judgement of any kind, it's probably best to wait for the court case. |
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The Mosque itself wasn't touched. Quote:
The blaze tore through function halls, offices, and apartments buildings, causing extensive damage, but the mosque itself was left unscathed.
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Hate Speech, still one of the most Orwellian 'crimes' ever to be thought up by the Left and digested wholeheartedly by the brainwashed idiots.
Or is your objection about the term 'hate speech' and you would like a different term to be used? |
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What has this got to do with what you call hate speech?
I'm not sure why you're trying to link the two things together as if there's something significant you're trying to get at. |
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Hate Speech, still one of the most Orwellian 'crimes' ever to be thought up by the Left and digested wholeheartedly by the brainwashed idiots.
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I'm not sure why you're trying to link the two things together as if there's something significant you're trying to get at.
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So you're fine with people inciting hatred and violence by what they say?
Or is your objection about the term 'hate speech' and you would like a different term to be used? |
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As of yet we don't know why he did it, we certainly don't know he was brainwashed by anyone, some people are taught bad things by bad parents some can have great parents but go off the rails and some can just become nasty little thugs all on their own.
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Brainwashed by whom?
And September 2015, that's a long time between crime and charge, I see a report about an arrest just a couple of days after the incident, what happened in the meantime? |
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All you do with hate speech laws is drive people who wish to cause harm underground and allow their ideas to fester. Better to allow their ideas to be exposed to sunlight and debunked.
Your proposal seems very naive and idealistic. |
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All you do with hate speech laws is drive people who wish to cause harm underground and allow their ideas to fester. Better to allow their ideas to be exposed to sunlight and debunked.
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So you're fine with people inciting hatred and violence by what they say?
Or is your objection about the term 'hate speech' and you would like a different term to be used? While there might be occasions where if a person is held captive and brainwashed in a Manchurian Candidate sort of way then the kidnapper could be said to have had influence over their victims behaviour. ... but the idea that merely speaking in a public place should be considered as direct control over another is clearly ludicrous. People are responsible for their own behaviour. |
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So let people incite hatred and violence with impunity while out-debating them on Twitter or on a street corner?
Your proposal seems very naive and idealistic. It's you who is being idealistic. And your ideology clearly doesn't work. ------------- Look at the impact of giving these people a platform to be mocked and ridiculed, they are destroyed by it. |
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The people who are full of hate are not afraid of laws, they carry on spewing their stuff.
It's those who would criticise them who are silenced. Fearful of being misunderstood they stay silent. To continue with an ideology in the face of such complete failure does not make any sense. |
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The people who are full of hate are not afraid of laws, they carry on spewing their stuff.
It's those who would criticise them who are silenced. Fearful of being misunderstood they stay silent. To continue with an ideology in the face of such complete failure does not make any sense. |
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Did you get lost on your way to http://www.dailymail.co.uk. ???
Hahahahahahahaha What a rib tickler that was. Is this your next port of call https://www.beano.com/ |
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