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How legit is Dickinson's Real Deal?
That bit at the end where they announce what profit (if any) the dealers make on items they bought on the show. They clearly film it on the same day as the dealers are wearing the same clothes, but they could just film different reaction shots to be used later depending on what happens.
But I'm suspicious about the bit at the end where we're told, usually, that the item hasn't yet sold or has been sold for a modest profit. Occasionally on high-value items (circa £1k) you get a bit of a profit but most of the time its: "Sandra paid £40 for the carriage clock and sold it for a healthy profit of £45" "Richard had to drive a hard bargain to get his hands on the book of autographs but in the end he did the deal at £55 and sold it for a tidy sum of £65" I'm always hugely suspicious of just how scrupulous that information is. Simply because: "Matt purchased the vase for £60, knowing he could get far more. He sold it for £400 and put it towards flights to the Bahamas" ....would sound exploitative and terrible. |
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How legit is Dickinson's Real Deal?
It's an afternoon telly programme, "for entertainment only."
It's like many, just "smoke and mirrors." Probably not as completely sham as, "Ratings for nothing," sorry, I meant "Money for nothing." |
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That bit at the end where they announce what profit (if any) the dealers make on items they bought on the show. They clearly film it on the same day as the dealers are wearing the same clothes, but they could just film different reaction shots to be used later depending on what happens.
But I'm suspicious about the bit at the end where we're told, usually, that the item hasn't yet sold or has been sold for a modest profit. Occasionally on high-value items (circa £1k) you get a bit of a profit but most of the time its: "Sandra paid £40 for the carriage clock and sold it for a healthy profit of £45" "Richard had to drive a hard bargain to get his hands on the book of autographs but in the end he did the deal at £55 and sold it for a tidy sum of £65" I'm always hugely suspicious of just how scrupulous that information is. Simply because: "Matt purchased the vase for £60, knowing he could get far more. He sold it for £400 and put it towards flights to the Bahamas" ....would sound exploitative and terrible. |
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Well, when they're at the table, David always comes in and gives the independent valuation. So it's not as if the punters are completely in the dark as to what their stuff is worth. And I suspect a lot of them have probably looked it up on the internet, or had it valued already. So they'd know if the dealer was trying to pull a fast one.
At the end of the day though I suspect for dealers like this, their main source of profit doesn't come from buying things for fifty quid and selling them for sixty. You'd have to sell an awful lot of stuff to make a decent living, especially if you had a shop and staff to pay for. It'll come from big ticket items that they maybe get for five hundred and sell for seven or eight hundred, or things they buy for a thousand and sell for fourteen or fifteen hundred, The agonising over paying an extra fiver or a tenner for small ticket items and trying to squeeze a profit out of it I think might be mainly just for the cameras. But I'm not in the antique business, so I wouldn't know. I might be completely wrong. |
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The bit I dont like is when the smug sellers decide they dont want to appear for the auction because they are supposedly busy.
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It's the same with Storage Hunters. "Oh that's a grand all day long" and ping goes the sum total. What it doesn't tell you is how long it would take to get that £1k or that the storage bin winner needs to have a huge network of potential buyers.
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It's the same with Storage Hunters. "Oh that's a grand all day long" and ping goes the sum total. What it doesn't tell you is how long it would take to get that £1k or that the storage bin winner needs to have a huge network of potential buyers.
They're not going to show the dull business of phoning various mates, sending photos and dull negotiations, giving stuff away on a sale or return basis to other dealers, etc. |
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It's an afternoon telly programme, "for entertainment only."
It's like many, just "smoke and mirrors." Probably not as completely sham as, "Ratings for nothing," sorry, I meant "Money for nothing." |
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It's an afternoon telly programme, "for entertainment only."
It's like many, just "smoke and mirrors." Probably not as completely sham as, "Ratings for nothing," sorry, I meant "Money for nothing." It's like Antiques Roadtrip when an antique shop is 'happy' to sell a piece of furniture price-tagged at £200 for a fiver. They're 'happy' because they only saw the item in question ten minutes earlier when it was dropped off by the BBC Props Department. |
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A lot of things are planted on these shows for the 'Contestant' to 'find'. They couldn't risk an episode where nothing is found or there is nothing worth buying
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The sellers are probably told exactly what to say and how to act for the cameras, a bit like when the Antiques Roadshow filmed near work they were briefed before filming on how the conversation should go
This show is basically a vehicle for Dickinson and his premium rate phone line competition Bit tight how the production company don't just cover the commission costs if they go to the auction though |
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A lot of things are planted on these shows for the 'Contestant' to 'find'. They couldn't risk an episode where nothing is found or there is nothing worth buying
Some of you may call it shortcuts or harmless entertainment but I think they're defrauding the viewers. |
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It sounds incredible but I think the tv production staff have been at this fake game so long, they don't even think they're doing anything wrong.
Some of you may call it shortcuts or harmless entertainment but I think they're defrauding the viewers. |
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Flog it is the same. An antique dealer near me was on twice within a few weeks of the broadcast show. Apparently she had the antiques in the attic. I say bullocks.
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"Made for Television!" All these sorts of programmes are.
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Flog it is the same. An antique dealer near me was on twice within a few weeks of the broadcast show. Apparently she had the antiques in the attic. I say bullocks.
"Oh, I was thinking maybe a two week cruise round the Mediterranean." I made this point on another thread that it seems to be compulsory on telly now that whenever anybody wins some money, no matter how small an amount, they're required to have something in mind to spend it on. It's just daft. But that's telly for you. |
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A lot of things are planted on these shows for the 'Contestant' to 'find'. They couldn't risk an episode where nothing is found or there is nothing worth buying
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It's like Antiques Roadtrip when an antique shop is 'happy' to sell a piece of furniture price-tagged at £200 for a fiver. They're 'happy' because they only saw the item in question ten minutes earlier when it was dropped off by the BBC Props Department.
============================================== Re Dickensons's Real Deal, the punters usually have a good idea what their item is worth, sometimes an inflated idea of it. But if the dealer spots it's actually worth more than the expert valuation, it isn't dishonest to offer a lower price and make a profit. If everyone is happy with the agreed price no one has been hard done by. |
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It sounds incredible but I think the tv production staff have been at this fake game so long, they don't even think they're doing anything wrong.
Some of you may call it shortcuts or harmless entertainment but I think they're defrauding the viewers. |
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It amazes me that in some programmes they buy a bit of tat at "retail" at an antiques fair, then try to sell it at "wholesale" at an auction. When you take into account, time, travel expenses and auction house commission, there's little or no profit. Just a waste of time.
In reality the programme makers are insulting the intelligence of the viewer. But that is a common occurrence with a lot of daytime and early evening programmes. |
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