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Surprised there wasn't a thread here about this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38492953 No doubt comparisons will be made with the Mark Duggan case but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet. |
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but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet.
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Surprised there wasn't a thread here about this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38492953 No doubt comparisons will be made with the Mark Duggan case but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet. ![]() It should be very interesting to hear more about it. |
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Surprised there wasn't a thread here about this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38492953 No doubt comparisons will be made with the Mark Duggan case but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet. It's nice that it hasn't initiated riots though. |
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That's never been a problem here in the past.
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It shouldn't draw comparisons, because no one knows any details.
It's nice that it hasn't initiated riots though. |
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Surprised there wasn't a thread here about this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38492953 No doubt comparisons will be made with the Mark Duggan case but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet. |
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On either the Guardian or Telegraph website, they said that a while ago, the dead man's house had been shot at by 2 men with shotguns. He obviously knew some rather unpleasant people.
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Yep, the guy who was shot is described as being 'a lovely family man', yet has already been on trial for a drive by shooting and is a known drug dealer, lovely indeed.
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When incidents like this happen I always wonder why the police do not shoot to disable rather than kill
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When incidents like this happen I always wonder why the police do not shoot to disable rather than kill
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Maybe DS members don't want to argue and bicker as much this year, and will wait until more info comes to light.
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When incidents like this happen I always wonder why the police do not shoot to disable rather than kill
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When incidents like this happen I always wonder why the police do not shoot to disable rather than kill
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Because real life is nothing like the movies.
I don't see what this has to do with movies These are supposedly highly trained marksmen and I would have thought it possible for them to shoot accurately to disarm and disable |
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When incidents like this happen I always wonder why the police do not shoot to disable rather than kill
And the police never ever shoot to 'kill', they shoot to 'stop'. That might sadly mean they end up dying, but that was not the objective. What they are stopping is that person pulling the trigger or thrusting the knife into a person. For a start, it's incredibly hard (nearly impossible) to hit a moving arm or leg, especially when it's a fast moving high pressure situation, where often the decision is made in a split second. Not to mention the extra complication of them being in a car or behind cover. And even if you do hit an arm or leg, there is a very high chance they can still discharge a weapon. |
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I don't see what this has to do with movies
These are supposedly highly trained marksmen and I would have thought it possible for them to shoot accurately to disarm and disable |
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Because real life is nothing like the movies.
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Surprised there wasn't a thread here about this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38492953 No doubt comparisons will be made with the Mark Duggan case but there isn't really enough information to draw any conclusions yet. |
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Maybe it should be, theres been a few shootings which were later found to be of unarmed men who were no threat at the time.
According to the article this is the first shooting by West Yorkshire in seven years. It doesn't happen often. |
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Maybe it should be, theres been a few shootings which were later found to be of unarmed men who were no threat at the time.
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I don't see what this has to do with movies
These are supposedly highly trained marksmen and I would have thought it possible for them to shoot accurately to disarm and disable Given how many incidents armed officers attend each year and how few shots are fired it shows our police are not trigger happy |
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Yep, the guy who was shot is described as being 'a lovely family man', yet has already been on trial for a drive by shooting and is a known drug dealer, lovely indeed.
The hard case family in the village I grew up in had several members who could have the same description, but if you crossed them, owed money or were caught muscling in on their 'turf' you could certainly expect consequences, and it wouldn't be a ticking off! |
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Because this is real life, not Hollywood.
And the police never ever shoot to 'kill', they shoot to 'stop'. That might sadly mean they end up dying, but that was not the objective. What they are stopping is that person pulling the trigger or thrusting the knife into a person. For a start, it's incredibly hard (nearly impossible) to hit a moving arm or leg, especially when it's a fast moving high pressure situation, where often the decision is made in a split second. Not to mention the extra complication of them being in a car or behind cover. And even if you do hit an arm or leg, there is a very high chance they can still discharge a weapon. |
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Given how many incidents armed officers attend each year and how few shots are fired it shows our police are not trigger happy In 2014/15, England and Wales armed police dealt with 14,666 incidents. Six bullets were fired. (Source: http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/armed...ail/story.html - see towards bottom for the national stats) |
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That's the most bizarre on nonsensical comment I have read today!
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