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#326 |
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Bearing in mind they have had dealings with the press before they will know the level of intrusion, in the case of such a death if you ask for privacy and it is given to then go out and make accusations means you have then in the eyes of the media given up the right to that privacy and you will have them hounding you all the time. My point being they have now played in to the medias hands by breaking their own request for privacy.
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I think your view of 'a needless death' seems to be based on the premise that no criminals are a real threat to the police.
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Throughout this thread you have been negative about the police. I just wondered if there was a reason, personal experience or something. I'm not talking about any other types of death.
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Realistic, not negative.
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It could be the family is just a normal family and if the guy was into crime they knew nothing, many kids do fool unwitting parents , I mean the Dad said his Mum was rubbing Vicks into his chest the night before as he had a cold ( how old was he ? ) , maybe they knew nothing ( if he is actually guilty)
Son drives a £200,000 car plus a fleet of others. I wonder what the son,s career was to afford such cars, if the family were unaware of his criminal earnings? Or is it possible to purchase them while receiving Jobseekers allowance of £75 per week? |
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In the eyes of the media? I don't think so. In the eyes of people on DS perhaps. Just because the father has spoken to the press it doesn't mean that the rest of the family want a media circus camped outside their front door.
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More than 10 cctv cameras on the outside of house.
Son drives a £200,000 car plus a fleet of others. I wonder what the son,s career was to afford such cars, if the family were unaware of his criminal earnings? Or is it possible to purchase them while receiving Jobseekers allowance of £75 per week? |
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I don't think it's realistic at all. You have a dig in almost every post. It's rather interesting.
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They may not want a media circus but we all know the media, the media seemed to be respecting the request of privacy now the family has by choice gone and spoken the media will see that as the end to the privacy. If they did want to retain privacy and make a statement then they should have used a solicitor. That's nothing to do with "people on DS" that's everything to do with our media.
I think you're being a little uncharitable. Hopefully the media will show more restraint than you're expecting them to.
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I challenge where I feel appropriate. Despite some posters admiration they're not saints or above the law and in a number of cases in recent years they have earned the scrutiny.
You don't have to explain your attitude though and I apologise for asking. |
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A solicitor?
I think you're being a little uncharitable. Hopefully the media will show more restraint than you're expecting them to.The media rarely, if ever, show restraint of any kind. It's a little naive to think otherwise. |
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They may not want a media circus but we all know the media, the media seemed to be respecting the request of privacy now the family has by choice gone and spoken the media will see that as the end to the privacy. If they did want to retain privacy and make a statement then they should have used a solicitor. That's nothing to do with "people on DS" that's everything to do with our media
I am trying to be charitable until full facts are known . But it is possible in this life for a child to deceive their parents even if all the signs are there . The news also said he lived in a £130,000 house he owned. Seems the cars are worth far more than the family house. |
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Another violent drug dealing piece of filth 'gangsta' like Duggan has been taken out.
Good. Give that copper a knighthood. |
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A solicitor?
I think you're being a little uncharitable. Hopefully the media will show more restraint that you're expecting them to.Certain tabloids are already at it with interviews (that we did not get yesterday) with locals allegedly describing him as a "renowned drug lord and a major player in the heroin and cocaine dealing underworld" and "people of Huddersfield, West Yorks., would be scared to speak out because of the notoriety of Yassar and his associates" and "He was a heroin and crack dealer and was constantly ripping off Cannabis grows [Cannabis dealers] and was just a major playing in Huddersfield for drugs". and you think I should expect restraint. |
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Why is that uncharitable? Solicitors often act as spokesmen.
The media rarely, if ever, show restraint of any kind. It's a little naive to think otherwise. I don't think it's particularly naïve for a grieving family to expect a modicum of privacy. Whether the press respect their wishes remains to be seen. |
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Maybe you should check whether we are speaking of the same media, many families speak though their legal representatives or another spokesperson when they want privacy , and please our media and restraint ???? Do you remember De Menezes , The Sun before any statement from anyone , 1 Down three to go (or similar) and many more tacky stories .
Certain tabloids are already at it with interviews (that we did not get yesterday) with locals allegedly describing him as a "renowned drug lord and a major player in the heroin and cocaine dealing underworld" and "people of Huddersfield, West Yorks., would be scared to speak out because of the notoriety of Yassar and his associates" and "He was a heroin and crack dealer and was constantly ripping off Cannabis grows [Cannabis dealers] and was just a major playing in Huddersfield for drugs". and you think I should expect restraint. |
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A vigil was held where he was killed, with banners that said "stop the killings". Didn't this man have a gun in his car at the time he was shot?
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Originally Posted by LauraLS;85056808[B
]A vigil was held where he was killed[/b], with banners that said "stop the killings". Didn't this man have a gun in his car at the time he was shot?
It was as utterly predictable as the ebb and flow of the tides. The bloke was violent criminal scum - live by the sword, die by the sword. Tough s**t. |
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A vigil was held where he was killed, with banners that said "stop the killings". Didn't this man have a gun in his car at the time he was shot?
Apparently he himself was shot at with a gun in 2015 http://britishasiansuk.com/yassar-ya...unmen-in-2015/ |
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A vigil was held where he was killed, with banners that said "stop the killings". Didn't this man have a gun in his car at the time he was shot?
It's far easier on their delicate souls to blame somebody else, or make it a race issue, than accept how the alleged criminality of this individual bought him a one-way ticket to becoming worm food. |
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Because it's the 21st Century. Where everyone has rights, but nobody takes responsibility.
It's far easier on their delicate souls to blame somebody else, or make it a race issue, than accept how the alleged criminality of this individual bought him a one-way ticket to becoming worm food. Now there is one less scumbag in the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uivPpzCGo |
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In my opinion it seems rather unsympathetic to expect the father of a man who has just been killed by the police to have to pay a solicitor to speak to the press, or else have his family's privacy invaded. Surely he can just make the same statement(s) himself, and still expect a little privacy?
I don't think it's particularly naïve for a grieving family to expect a modicum of privacy. Whether the press respect their wishes remains to be seen. That's not what I said. I said it's naive to expect the press to show restraint. |
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I have just noticed that the father is in the business of selling cars...
The news also said he lived in a £130,000 house he owned. Seems the cars are worth far more than the family house. Everyone I've ever known who's been in the motor trade have driven around in whatever's the nicest car in stock. |
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A vigil was held where he was killed, with banners that said "stop the killings". Didn't this man have a gun in his car at the time he was shot?
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All true but if he has no convictions and no outstanding charges ie not a known threat to others, then I would hope the intelligence they were acting on was good and the immediate threat at the time of the shooting was very clear.
The only issue here is whether there was a threat at the time, and we wont know that until the evidence is presented at court. |
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Well done to the police.
Any officer that takes part in an operation that rids society of scum like this and Duggan should be handsomely rewarded. |
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I think you're being a little uncharitable. Hopefully the media will show more restraint than you're expecting them to.