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Such a shame he was not blown away years ago before he could ruin so many other people's lives.
The parents are typical - looks like a really nice house - wonder where they got all their money from? What a mystery. I would love it if the firearms officer was Asian - that would f*** up their pitiful transparent victim narrative wouldn't it? |
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#477 |
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Oh I get it , don't share my opinion so make a dig. Must get quite dizzy on that pedestal of yours. You've had plenty of cheap shots at others for not agreeing with yours. What were you saying earlier about social justice? ps, you messed up the quotes. #cutyourlosses |
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#478 |
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Strange lady, she has no faith in police or media or the investigation so has already made up her mind , if she believes that what does she mean by the public have to pressure them for answers , if she doesn't believe the investigation then why will she believe the answers she wants under pressure ?
She also claims he was shot dead without any warning, the people that are claiming this do they have access to info no one else does ? As for the media and character assassination, the police have refused to comment further on any crime/behaviour past or present and rightly so , the reporting is coming from information from people in the local area so if she has an issue then she should be speaking to them. As for her other comment about police not being allowed to take a life even if he had a firearm, well what does she want everyone able to walk around armed but no response from anyone to them but to allow it or ask them nicely to put it down. Those people will no doubt be either in custody or still in hospital. They will have been entitled to visitors, phone calls. So info could also be coming from those who were actually there at the time, other than the police. |
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Such a shame he was not blown away years ago before he could ruin so many other people's lives.
The parents are typical - looks like a really nice house - wonder where they got all their money from? What a mystery. I would love it if the firearms officer was Asian - that would f*** up their pitiful transparent victim narrative wouldn't it? |
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Not at all, of the four posts you have made in this thread 3 have been digs at me.
What were you saying earlier about social justice? ps, you messed up the quotes. #cutyourlosses #mixed messages. Guess I shall follow suit with others who have called you out and you can chat to yourself happily! |
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The dad has over 100 buy to lets apparently. Sure a paper tried to make out the guy who died laundered money by pretending to be a high value car dealer.
Might be worth the police looking into this as well! |
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Funny how you appear to show so called empathy and tolerance towards this man but show none to others who don't follow your agenda.
#mixed messages. Guess I shall follow suit with others who have called you out and you can chat to yourself happily! |
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The dad has over 100 buy to lets apparently. Sure a paper tried to make out the guy who died laundered money by pretending to be a high value car dealer.
FFS! |
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The question still remains whether or not it was a lawful killing, and that is being investigated.
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I don't have an issue with this man dying, I'm questioning if it was necessary?
I think I read somewhere, no body cams' and no CCTV. I accept this operation was intelligence led, but why that spot, that slip road to bring it to it's conclusion, why? To me it was a turkey shoot, a turkey shoot is an ambush, did a person have to die? Quote:
The dad has over 100 buy to lets apparently. Sure a paper tried to make out the guy who died laundered money by pretending to be a high value car dealer.
The son seems to have had some kind of legal claims company of which his father was secretary which was struck off in 2012. The lets must all be in the fathers own name as there is no other company with the father or son named as Director or Secretary unless they have it in someone elses name |
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I don't have an issue with this man dying, I'm questioning if it was necessary?
I think I read somewhere, no body cams' and no CCTV. I accept this operation was intelligence led, but why that spot, that slip road to bring it to it's conclusion, why? To me it was a turkey shoot, a turkey shoot is an ambush, did a person have to die? These scenarious invariably go wrong when the criminal doesn't follow the instructions given once the vehicle has been surrounded. Some criminals avoid being shot by following instructions and some don't. That's a lifestyle choice. |
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You really are aren't you?
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There was a shooting a few days earlier which may have been linked to this. Perhaps it was a different man entirely?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38522133 |
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I don't have an issue with this man dying, I'm questioning if it was necessary?
I think I read somewhere, no body cams' and no CCTV. I accept this operation was intelligence led, but why that spot, that slip road to bring it to it's conclusion, why? To me it was a turkey shoot, a turkey shoot is an ambush, did a person have to die? |
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The police had intelligence , possibly they knew they had left position A and were heading to positon B and that was the safest place to stop them with minimum risk to the public away from a built up area. Or they were following them got clarification then stopped them at the best moment for public safety or before they got to a built up[ area or a busier area of traffic.
The media were slightly restrained after the initial request for privacy but went to town after the father waived that, the media (and I am not saying I agree ) have actually printed about his alleged dealings with direct quotes from members of the public , if false then his father can take out a prosecution against those quoted as well as the one he says he is taking out for the armed officer. The son seems to have had some kind of legal claims company of which his father was secretary which was struck off in 2012. The lets must all be in the fathers own name as there is no other company with the father or son named as Director or Secretary unless they have it in someone elses name The family and friends seem to think he is some kind of angel but seem to forget someone shot his house last year, he was aquitted from being involved in a drive by shooting and the police clearly had intelligence against him. Think that more and more info will come out on this in the coming days |
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These scenarious invariably go wrong when the criminal doesn't follow the instructions given once the vehicle has been surrounded. Some criminals avoid being shot by following instructions and some don't. That's a lifestyle choice.
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Firstly, yes I find rather pathetic and untrue, your tiresome assertion that any of us who frankly don't care about this man or welcome one less scumbag in the UK are all just knuckle dragging idiots and probably a bit racist too. None of us here could care what colour or religion he is. Its the protestors, not us, who have stoked the race card issue.
To your question, I agree with most people, who don't care for this man and are relieved he was stopped before he could kill or injure a policeman. And that his criminal days of selling drugs and other criminality are over. I am sorry if it offends your liberal outlook, but some people just dont deserve any regret at their passing from the rest of us when they die. Some people are just scum, and the rest of us wont give an iota of loss when they go. Be it this man, or Ian Huntley. Or the thousands of other low-life scum. I couldn't care this man is dead. I weep no tears, but exhale a sigh of relief. This man wanted to play gangsta, and pull a gun on armed police, then no sympathy if he was shot dead. None. Nada. Zilch. I only care the police and civilians didn't get hurt in the process. And I dislike groups like BLM, as I believe there is a way to question things without rentamobs like them whipping up race issues where they don't exist and causing more racial division. Just as we don't need EDL rentamobs in regards to Muslim grooming issues. |
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The lets must all be in the fathers own name as there is no other company with the father or son named as Director or Secretary unless they have it in someone elses name
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I can't believe you've been pulled up for using the word 'scum' in relation to a notorious drugs dealer. Even if we ignore any possible firearms charges for the moment, I for one applaud you for your restrained language.
Names is for tombstones Baby,Waste the scum
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that any of us who frankly don't care about this man or welcome one less scumbag in the UK are all just knuckle dragging idiots and probably a bit racist too.
This man wanted to play gangsta, and pull a gun on armed police. How do you know this person wanted "to play gangsta & pull a gun on armed police"? This case hasn't even been bought to trial yet, so no one even knows the facts. |
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Could just be held in their own names? No need for a limited company to be involved.
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Well said - there are some people in this world who would say the police were unlawful and in the wrong for wearing the wrong boots during a major operation
Names is for tombstones Baby,Waste the scum ![]() Thankfully we d not live in the Wild West |
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Maybe some of us don't really give a shit about people like this even if you do. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Well let's see because as discussed earlier.. it will be interesting to discover if this car was actually surrounded and if instructions were given. Because I still feel those bullet holes suggest a car to car shooting took place. I accept I could be totally wrong and maybe the police were stood in the road guns drawn shouting "Armed police drop the weapon". But from the images i'm not so sure.
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Alleged drug dealer gets shot by police.Nope, still fine with it. |
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